Let me guess, Fedor fans think prime CC will kill Gane?

[tehMoose]

Gane trains MMA for 3 years, is clueless on the ground and hits like Bisping

Mirko murks him

 

[true_fan]

I love Gane very much. He's a good fighter with good skills and will shine against guys like Volkov and Lewis but his wrestling and overall grappling are very weak and not on Fedors level. 2005 Fedor would sling him to the mat and pound on him. Gane needs to leave Paris if he wants to complete his overall game.

As for prime Cop, yes he's a much better striker than Gane or anyone in thr UFC today at HW and Fedor beat the shit out of him. Gane isn't on the same level as prime Mirko or Remy Bonjasky.

Yeah so let there be no testing for Roids and Gane will literally kill Fedor and CC together

 

[markg171]

You know that Fedor is a 6ft, and around 225-230 for most of his fights, with about 20 lbs of flat tire on him right?

That's not true at all. He weighed 235 in most of his fights, and nearly never below 230. The lowest ever was 222 against Henderson where Fedor himself said he had an unfair weight advantage and so was coming in lower as a sort of "gentleman's agreement" as the bout was originally a 220lb catchweight that Henderson said he could never make (and came in at 206).

Fedor was the same as nearly all of his opponents, who were also in that 230-250ish range.

You want actual Giants? Semmy Shilt was like 6'11, Zuluzihno was 6'7 350lbs, Choi Chong was 7'2 and like 300+ lbs

So like 3/47 opponents.

You can have it both ways, just look at Ngannou and Gane, strong, fast and big.

You can't have it both ways given you've got all these people saying that Fedor would still have a speed advantage over them. Being fast for your size =/= being fast.

His speed was an advantage of course, but he wasn't a real HW. He was really a middleweight masquerading as a HW.

So weird cause he's fought and competed against actual MWs and he was way bigger than them and (largely) threw them around.

He wasn't particularly physically imposing by any means and had quite a bit of fat he carried around

Weird, this is how he's described weighing in against Cro Cop:

The Russian went on the scale and took off his shirt to pose for the cameras before sitting down. While not ripped like Kawajiri or Baroni, the guy just looked really solid, like a ton of bricks. Seeing him on TV doesn’t really do justice to just how thick and strong this guy really is.

https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Fedor-vs-Cro-Cop-WeighIn-Report-3328

Even against fighters that were about the same height as him, he didn't physically bully them. He was definitely a small HW.

Lmao he tossed around 250lbs Herring like he was nothing.

Saying Fedor didn't bully fighters, let alone ones around his size, is beyond laughable.

 

[true_fan]

yeah, we've never going to see how Francis or Gane chin is going to hold in their 36 pro fight... because there is no fucking way that they reach that number (even counting their minor leage fights). And TRT is banned.

What's the big threat Gane brings in MMA vs standup? Elbows? Leglocks? (Ok, sorry, that wa cruel)

Or do you think that Gane wrestlefucks Mirko?

CC got destroyed by Big country and Brandon come on dude

 

[Christhammer]

CC got destroyed by Big country and Brandon come on dude

He had the yips for a while there but he also had two god tier streaks... Including one to end his career. Don't be a silly boy.

 

[icemun]

Gane trains MMA for 3 years, is clueless on the ground and hits like Bisping

Mirko murks him

Like he did in ufc debut against a gatekeeper?

People are delusional

 

[kingmob6]

Precisely because it's more competitive now... so smaller guys can't make it in the HW division...

And still doesn't change the fact that Fedor spent half of his career beating smaller guys when he was undefeated...

yea, the HW is real competitive right now...bwahahah. Guys go up divisions all the time now. And you are not accounting for the fact that Pride had open weight tournaments and the mma just got more streamlined as a sport and weight classes had time to digest.

 

[BFoe]

Like he did in ufc debut against a gatekeeper?

People are delusional
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That was not Cro Cop’s UFC debut, and it was a title eliminator. Making Gonzaga a title contender, ergo, not a gatekeeper.
But carry on.

 

[kingmob6]

That's not true at all. He weighed 235 in most of his fights, and nearly never below 230. The lowest ever was 222 against Henderson where Fedor himself said he had an unfair weight advantage and so was coming in lower as a sort of "gentleman's agreement" as the bout was originally a 220lb catchweight that Henderson said he could never make (and came in at 206).

Fedor was the same as nearly all of his opponents, who were also in that 230-250ish range.



So like 3/47 opponents.



You can't have it both ways given you've got all these people saying that Fedor would still have a speed advantage over them. Being fast for your size =/= being fast.



So weird cause he's fought and competed against actual MWs and he was way bigger than them and (largely) threw them around.

Weird, this is how he's described weighing in against Cro Cop:



https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Fedor-vs-Cro-Cop-WeighIn-Report-3328



Lmao he tossed around 250lbs Herring like he was nothing.

Saying Fedor didn't bully fighters, let alone ones around his size, is beyond laughable.

man your arguments and convoluted interpretations are all so weak. gonna go enjoy my evening for now.

 

[Yellowcrab]

yea, the HW is real competitive right now...bwahahah.

No arguments...

Guys go up divisions all the time now.

Wrong, very few LHW moved up to the HW division in the modern UFC era : how many can you name ?

And you are not accounting for the fact that Pride had open weight tournaments and the mma just got more streamlined as a sport and weight classes had time to digest.

So ? Completely irrelevant... it doesn't change anything about what i said : modern HW have to be tall and heavy (especially heavy if they are shorter) to succeed because it's more competitive.

 

[kenetics]

Fedor fans will downplay everything and everyone to make Fedor invincible even though a middleweight finished him in Dan Henderson!
So tell me Fedor fans prime CC will destroy Gane, am I right?

Do you understand that fedor was not in his prime by the Henderson fight? His coach said fedor wasn't the same fighting even before arvloski fight... He was out of his prime since then it even before.

And yes fedor would've toss game around and definitely sub him on the ground or tko him.

 

[kenetics]

Bj penn is the most famous loser. All his great fights he lost and he gets praise for that for some reason

Praise for being destroyed by GSP 2x
Praise for being destroyed by Diaz
Praise for losing to Machida
Praise for losing to Edgar 3x (who he was bigger than)
Praise for being 2 and 1 with Hughes
Praise for losing to Macdonald
Praise for losing to Jens pulver

Which most fighters wouldn't of took those matches including khabib lol.

 

[DwayneInc.]

Today's heavyweights have no heart.

 

[HindustaniKush]

Like he did in ufc debut against a gatekeeper?

People are delusional
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as i recall Pat Barry submitted Cro Cop

Pat Barry 8 wins and 7 losses submited Cro Cop. Even Fedor could not submit him

since when does your submission skills get worse as you age?

 

[Noraaq]

Yes I think a prime k1 grand prix champion would beat a hyped up fighter with limited amateur pedigree

 

[terrapin]

Exactly you say it your self slugger. CC is twice the striker Francis is I don’t think Gane will be able to keep CC at bay the way he did Francis

cro cop would crack francic's skull with that straight left.

 

[mkt]

yeah, we've never going to see how Francis or Gane chin is going to hold in their 36 pro fight... because there is no fucking way that they reach that number (even counting their minor leage fights). And TRT is banned.

Keep crying those salty tears. It's easier than dealing with facts:

• It was also Hendo's 36th fight.
• Again, he was 6 years older and considerably smaller than Fedor
• Hendo's wrestling from childhood to Olympic level is also hard on the body. Look at "bad back" Ben Askren. I guarantee he had more wear-n-tear prior to MMA than Fedor did with a few years of combat sambo (not even a sport outside of Russia)
• Fedor may well have been on "supplements" too. This was Scott Coker's Strikeforce. Overeem, Barnett, Bigfoot and Werdum all fought there and were never busted....until they came to the UFC (at which point all 4 got caught for PED use).

 

[BFoe]

as i recall Pat Barry submitted Cro Cop

Pat Barry 8 wins and 7 losses submited Cro Cop. Even Fedor could not submit him

since when does your submission skills get worse as you age?

Lol other way around. Cro Cop subbed Barry (by RNC).

 

[terrapin]

Fedor fanboys are retarded and delusional. Most current HWs in the UFC would beat the living shit out of him. Even guys like Luke Rockhold or Israel Adesanya would win easily.

the key with trolling is to keep it within the realm of plausible man.

 

[HindustaniKush]

Keep crying those salty tears. It's easier than dealing with facts:

• It was also Hendo's 36th fight.
• Again, he was 6 years older and considerably smaller than Fedor
• Hendo's wrestling from childhood to Olympic level is also hard on the body. Look at "bad back" Ben Askren. I guarantee he had more wear-n-tear prior to MMA than Fedor did with a few years of combat sambo (not even a sport outside of Russia)
• Fedor may well have been on "supplements" too. This was Scott Coker's Strikeforce. Overeem, Barnett, Bigfoot and Werdum all fought there and were never busted....until they came to the UFC (at which point all 4 got caught for PED use).

Yeah there is NO excuse for losing to Hendo

Also Big Foot! but I dont blame the Big Foot loss he was on the TRT and 290lbs