News Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk is set for February 17 in Saudi Arabia

[The XL]

If Fury did some stupid shit and brawled in the middle with Francis and got clipped.....

 

[Fjord]

It's a gross mismatch on paper. Even if it plays out differently, which nobody expects it to, that's what this fight is viewed as. Take a look at the odds. Ngannou only has a 12% chance of victory according to the bookies. Fury will box him up and then put him away after Ngannou gasses. He'll be dangerous up until the midway point. After that he'll be helpless and get smacked around like McGregor did against Mayweather.

See, you’re getting lost again. Fury is not going to box him and put him away. He’s going to clinch and hold Ngannou as much as he can.

This is getting sidetracked. My main point was that a ton of the excitement and anticipation with the Ngannou fight is gone with the early Usyk announcement. The announcement should and could have waited and become a really exciting post fight moment.

Don’t forget to come back and say “You were right and the fight went exactly as you said it would!”

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

See, you’re getting lost again. Fury is not going to box him and put him away. He’s going to clinch and hold Ngannou as much as he can.

This is getting sidetracked. My main point was that a ton of the excitement and anticipation with the Ngannou fight is gone with the early Usyk announcement. The announcement should and could have waited and become a really exciting post fight moment.

Don’t forget to come back and say “You were right and the fight went exactly as you said it would!”

I'm sure clinching will be part of it but it's part of boxing. That isn't why Ngannou is going to lose. Unless you're really trying to argue that a guy as big and strong as Ngannou can't physically resist Fury. Of course Fury vs Usyk has overshadowed this sideshow. What'd you expect? I'll be sure to revisit this thread and quote you when it's all over. Fury will stop Ngannou.

 

[Fjord]

I'm sure clinching will be part of it but it's part of boxing. That isn't why Ngannou is going to lose. Unless you're really trying to argue that a guy as big and strong as Ngannou can't physically resist Fury. Of course Fury vs Usyk has overshadowed this sideshow. What'd you expect? I'll be sure to revisit this thread and quote you when it's all over. Fury will stop Ngannou.

Not if there’s a ref that actually penalizes Fury for all of that cheap ass clinching and grabbing he does.

Got to get a real old school ref in there that’s gonna make sure they fight the way boxing was meant to happen. But old school ain’t around much anymore.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Yes, for a reason. He's not a boxer.

Hes still a striker, a durable and powerful one. We all know that in the HW division, all it takes is one. We have all seen some crazy upsets. Nothing is impossible.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Hes still a striker, a durable and powerful one. We all know that in the HW division, all it takes is one. We have all seen some crazy upsets. Nothing is impossible.

Ngannou is a striker but so are karatekas and taekwondoins. Boxing is a highly specialized discipline that takes many years to become proficient at. Most elite boxers started training & competing when they were really young. Fury has been boxing his entire life. Ngannou has a puncher's chance but so does any man that size. It's not something that you can rely on at this level. Even Wilder realizes that now.

 

[mozfonky]

Really surprised Fury is the fave here, I don't think he can really even compete.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Ngannou is a striker but so are karatekas and taekwondoins. Boxing is a highly specialized discipline that takes many years to become proficient at. Most elite boxers started training & competing when they were really young. Fury has been boxing his entire life. Ngannou has a puncher's chance but so does any man that size. It's not something that you can rely on at this level. Even Wilder realizes that now.

Im not saying hes going to defeat Fury, but anyone that big with that much power has a punchers chance. I mean, Wilder started boxing at 20 and became world champ. At the very least, he should be able to eat a bunch of Furys shots and hang in there long enough to make it worth it.

 

[Boomb]

Ngannou is hilarious:
https://x.com/francis_ngannou/status/1707922773719597112?s=20

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

Damn people are dumb here thinking an mma reject that got outboxed by mma fighter got any chance to survive the first round against fury

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Im not saying hes going to defeat Fury, but anyone that big with that much power has a punchers chance. I mean, Wilder started boxing at 20 and became world champ. At the very least, he should be able to eat a bunch of Furys shots and hang in there long enough to make it worth it.

Wilder did start late and so did Joshua but both were Olympic medalists. That's the pedigree that they had prior to turning professional. Ngannou doesn't have any competitive boxing experience aside from an exhibition match years back against Takam. We've also never seen Ngannou's chin tested against a professional boxer much less a heavyweight champion. He's never been punched as accurately or as hard as he'll be against Fury. Shots that he won't be able to see coming will connect and they're what hurt fighters the most. If Ngannou is still in there after 8 rounds I'll be surprised unless Fury carries him.

 

[samuelsoncast]

Not only did Fury come in fatter than usual for the press conference, but he also signed to fight Usyk a few months later. This is Francis only chance to catch Fury slipping, he's being severely overlooked and under estimated here.

And so he should be overlooked.
Who knows. Perhaps there'll be some kind of Rocky moment where Ngannou catches Fury but Ngannou is over-estimated, not under. Getting a fight with Fury is evidence of over-estimation and your post is further proof.

 

[TheGreatA]

And so he should be overlooked.
Who knows. Perhaps there'll be some kind of Rocky moment where Ngannou catches Fury but Ngannou is over-estimated, not under. Getting a fight with Fury is evidence of over-estimation and your post is further proof.

Fury is a difficult guy to finish off, even if he gets rocked. He wasn't exactly in great shape against Wilder the first time, recovering from drug use, depression and obesity, not to mention ring rust, yet he still got up from the canvas when everyone thought he was done in the 12th.

It's much easier to finish people off in MMA when you can keep punching them while they're down. Ngannou is no marksman with his punch accuracy, even if he catches Fury he'll probably blow the opportunity.

 

[PBAC]

Gotta give it to the old bastard, 91 and bright as a button -

Arum is gradually morphing into Xi Xingpin

 

[Yellowcrab]

So he finally decided to fight Usyk after his questionable performance against Dubois ?

 

[SuperLuigi]

Because Fury is going to do his best to clinch and hold his way to a boring victory every time he thinks he’s in trouble. Quote me on this and come back and say, “You were right.” After the fight goes exactly the way I’ve said it will.

Thats called boxing. If you prefer a ruleset with no defense maybe you can check out Power Slap or X-Arm.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Really surprised Fury is the fave here, I don't think he can really even compete.

I'm not since he's the betting favorite and the much bigger man. They say a good biggen beats a good littlen after all. Generally it tends to be true but in this case I believe Fury made a miscalculation. I've got Usyk on points.

 

[Fluffernutter]

If this happens, there needs to be another choice in regards to who wins. After all, sportswashing is all about public relations in the hopes of diplomacy.

Therefore, the choices should be:

1. Tyson Fury
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud

 

[Fjord]

Thats called boxing. If you prefer a ruleset with no defense maybe you can check out Power Slap or X-Arm.

That's just utterly ridiculous. Have you ever seen any of the heavyweight matches from 20-30-40 years ago? Those fighters never clinched or held or tried to grab each other until they were utterly exhausted late in the fight.

Fury's already grabbing and clinching and holding in the first and second rounds even though he's as frisky and spry as a bunny.

Come on man. I can see you're a power slap fan but come on. You need to know your history.

Remember when the UFC allowed the Lay and Pray technique. (No, you probably don't because you don't know your history). And what did Dana do? He put a stop to that immediately and cut some UFC fighters for repeatedly using the lay and pray tech to win boring decisions. And the UFC became so much better and exciting after that.

Boxing needs to take a stand on just almost the exact same grounds and put a stop to all of the clinching and grabbing and holding too.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

That's just utterly ridiculous. Have you ever seen any of the heavyweight matches from 20-30-40 years ago? Those fighters never clinched or held or tried to grab each other until they were utterly exhausted late in the fight.

Fury's already grabbing and clinching and holding in the first and second rounds even though he's as frisky and spry as a bunny.

Come on man. I can see you're a power slap fan but come on. You need to know your history.

Remember when the UFC allowed the Lay and Pray technique. (No, you probably don't because you don't know your history). And what did Dana do? He put a stop to that immediately and cut some UFC fighters for repeatedly using the lay and pray tech to win boring decisions. And the UFC became so much better and exciting after that.

Boxing needs to take a stand on just almost the exact same grounds and put a stop to all of the clinching and grabbing and holding too.

Fury does clinch excessively and hold at times but it's up to the individual ref to enforce that stuff. Lay 'n Pray wasn't the only issue in MMA so was Wall 'n Stall just to a lesser extent. Wladimir Klitschko clinched a whole lot, Lewis would grab and lean on guys too, so it's not something that Fury does exclusively.