Economy The US has given Zelensky's govt $129 million PER DAY since the war started !

[skysolo]

Says the guy that accuses others of supporting Nazis merely because we believe its not a good idea to let American enemies overrun peaceful nations.

Ukraine? Peaceful?

Okay. I know everyone is having fun calling everyone else an idiot, but this is too far.

 

[Rod1]

Ukraine? Peaceful?

Okay. I know everyone is having fun calling everyone else an idiot, but this is too far.

How many nations did Ukraine invaded since gaining independence?

 

[skysolo]

How many nations did Ukraine invaded since gaining independence?

Ask a better question.

How long was there a war in Ukraine before 2022?

 

[Rod1]

C'mon guys, being against forever wars and asking for a push for diplomacy rather than ratcheting up the conflict is contrarian behavior. Stop trying to be edgy chuds...

Ok, so push Ukraine to negotiate by witholding weapons, got it, that's one side.


How do you push Russia to negotiate?

 

[Rod1]

How long was there a war in Ukraine before 2022?

Since Russia invaded

 

[skysolo]

Since Russia invaded

Seriously?

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Must be nice living an alternate reality.

Source on genocide?

Worst I can find is accusations of incitement to genocide.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...ce-of-escalating-russian-genocide-in-ukraine/

 

[Snubnoze707]

Ok, so push Ukraine to negotiate by witholding weapons, got it, that's one side.


How do you push Russia to negotiate?

Russia had been trying to negotiate, their has been no interest and in some cases sabotage coming from the west in these discussions.

I live in the US, I can push and be critical of my side and their role in this.

 

[Yorick]

The lady who does my taxes, for the last 12 years, is from Ukraine.
She told me there are many people who want Russia to take over governing the country.
Said the government now is beyond corrupt and living under it is intolerable.
Interesting perspective.
Anecdotal, but worth mentioning.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Seriously?

They literally don't know anything.

 

[Rod1]

Seriously?

Yes.

 

[Rod1]

Russia had been trying to negotiate, their has been no interest and in some cases sabotage coming from the west in these discussions.

What have exactly Russians offered Ukraine in terms of guarantees?

 

[skysolo]

Yes.

This is sad commentary and proof of propaganda.

 

[AWilder]

Source on genocide?

Worst I can find is accusations of incitement to genocide.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...ce-of-escalating-russian-genocide-in-ukraine/

Source? Russians invading and their leader denying their existence, calling Ukraine an artificial country. Kidnapping thousands of children, targeting civilians with cruise missiles, bucha mass graves, mariapol mass graves, hostomel mass graves, evidence of torture of civilians, sexual assaults, etc

 

[skysolo]

Russia had been trying to negotiate, their has been no interest and in some cases sabotage coming from the west in these discussions.

I live in the US, I can push and be critical of my side and their role in this.

LOL. I definitely didn't say that. Sherdog has some ghost in the machine.

 

[Snubnoze707]

What have exactly Russians offered Ukraine in terms of guarantees?

That would be something to come out of a negotiation that hasn't happened. Ukraine has offered no guarantees to anything either. Get to the table first, then work it out.

 

[Snubnoze707]

LOL. I definitely didn't say that. Sherdog has some ghost in the machine.

My bad, I was going to respond and expand on your previous post but didn't, and didn't clear it out all the way before quoting someone else and it saved a draft.

These people have been living in La La Land and didn't realize Ukraine had been shelling it's own citizens in the Donbas since 2014 long before the Russian invasion.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Source? Russians invading and their leader denying their existence, calling Ukraine an artificial country. Kidnapping thousands of children, targeting civilians with cruise missiles, bucha mass graves, mariapol mass graves, hostomel mass graves, evidence of torture of civilians, sexual assaults, etc

So yeah just go ahead and post a source and I'll check it out

 

[skold]

That would be something to come out of a negotiation that hasn't happened. Ukraine has offered no guarantees to anything either. Get to the table first, then work it out.

Why should Ukraine be offering anything to anyone? They aren't the ones who invaded their neighbor.

 

[skold]

My bad, I was going to respond and expand on your previous post but didn't, and didn't clear it out all the way before quoting someone else and it saved a draft.

These people have been living in La La Land and didn't realize Ukraine had been shelling it's own citizens in the Donbas since 2014 long before the Russian invasion.

Long before the Russian invasion you say? Remind me again when did Russia invade and annex Crimea?