International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. II

[Halge]

If anyone wants to watch the utter chaos and desperation outside of Gaza Hospital*. Live stream:



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[Barteh]

Intel recovered from Hamas terrorists and their plans to target elementary schools and youth centers.

I saw those. Looks freshly printed and untouched lol. If this is somehow legit they must've gotten them digitally through hacking and printed them out themselves. But I think another story I read about this mentioned they supposedly recovered them from the bodies from dead soldiers, which seems unlikely to be true.

 

[muhammadgoatli]

We are evolved apes. Violence for a goal is something that will never, ever leave us.

If you believe we came from monkeys fucking, you'll believe anything.

Or maybe as we have seen in videos they are taught from an early age the the only good jew is a dead jew. That they have the right to kill or do anything to drive them into the sea and take "their land" back. It's been done before.

Pot... meet kettle...

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2014-05-06/ty-article/0000017f-ef25-d4cd-af7f-ef7d7f400000

 

[Ron Mexico]

I got a feeling Israel will be alright

Can we get a solid definition on helicopters
I feel like Palestine might have a loose interpretation

 

[Halifax]

That's the entire point. It's a terrible situation overall and I don't know how you can't feel bad for these kids growing up there.

Who says we don't feel bad for the kids?
Perhaps Hamas should mass on 1 specific place in Gaza and tell civilians to all stay on the other side? They won't because they would be wiped out fast and because they rely on their human shields


It isn't a propaganda narrative. It's an accurate description. Hamas doesn't accidentally base attacks out of concentrated civilian locations like hospitals. They do it because they know any counter attack will make Israel look monstrous.

But the fact is "we might hurt someone innocent, I guess we'll just do nothing. These rocket strikes might be killing OUR civilians, but any amount of collateral damage from us is unacceptable" is reasoning that would leave Israel helpless while under siege. It's plainly motivated reasoning.

The difference between sides is one kills innocents collaterally, the other specifically targets them

 

[oldshadow]

If you believe we came from monkeys fucking, you'll believe anything.


Pot... meet kettle...

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2014-05-06/ty-article/0000017f-ef25-d4cd-af7f-ef7d7f400000

Did you even read my post

 

[iwannabeadored]

Who says we don't feel bad for the kids?
Perhaps Hamas should mass on 1 specific place in Gaza and tell civilians to all stay on the other side? They won't because they would be wiped out fast and because they rely on their human shields


It isn't a propaganda narrative. It's an accurate description. Hamas doesn't accidentally base attacks out of concentrated civilian locations like hospitals. They do it because they know any counter attack will make Israel look monstrous.

But the fact is "we might hurt someone innocent, I guess we'll just do nothing. These rocket strikes might be killing OUR civilians, but any amount of collateral damage from us is unacceptable" is reasoning that would leave Israel helpless while under siege. It's plainly motivated reasoning.

The difference between sides is one kills innocents collaterally, the other specifically targets them

False. IDF targets civilians. The Palestinians have been dying by the 1000s every year and the Israelis lose a few hundered.

 

[Samjj]

If you believe we came from monkeys fucking, you'll believe anything.


Pot... meet kettle...

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2014-05-06/ty-article/0000017f-ef25-d4cd-af7f-ef7d7f400000

Do you really want to play the "who indoctrinates their children more?" game? This isn't even Hamas - this is softball stuff from the PA.

 

[bongwater]

If you believe we came from monkeys fucking, you'll believe anything.


Pot... meet kettle...

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2014-05-06/ty-article/0000017f-ef25-d4cd-af7f-ef7d7f400000

Those are arabs dressed as israeli!

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

If you believe we came from monkeys fucking, you'll believe anything.


Pot... meet kettle...

https://www.haaretz.co.il/2014-05-06/ty-article/0000017f-ef25-d4cd-af7f-ef7d7f400000

So both groups are teaching their children to hate the other side? Is this really news to you?

 

[Spounman]

I just watched the eclipse from my backyard. Maybe it's a sign of Armaggedon.

Also, the talk of coming from monkeys reminds me of the Tool song when he says.........don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around.

 

[muhammadgoatli]

Those are arabs dressed as israeli!

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Can we get a solid definition on helicopters
I feel like Palestine might have a loose interpretation

legit lol

 

[Madmick]

Intel recovered from Hamas terrorists and their plans to target elementary schools and youth centers.

Of course they did.

 

[Barteh]

Who says we don't feel bad for the kids?
Perhaps Hamas should mass on 1 specific place in Gaza and tell civilians to all stay on the other side? They won't because they would be wiped out fast and because they rely on their human shields


It isn't a propaganda narrative. It's an accurate description. Hamas doesn't accidentally base attacks out of concentrated civilian locations like hospitals. They do it because they know any counter attack will make Israel look monstrous.

But the fact is "we might hurt someone innocent, I guess we'll just do nothing. These rocket strikes might be killing OUR civilians, but any amount of collateral damage from us is unacceptable" is reasoning that would leave Israel helpless while under siege. It's plainly motivated reasoning.

The difference between sides is one kills innocents collaterally, the other specifically targets them

I don't buy this propaganda.

 

[Sir Punchalot]

 

[Rob Battisti]

 

[lsa]

 

[blaseblase]

The fact that it is not a democracy doesn't automatically mean that HAMAS is not the ruling and supported party. It is de facto recognized as the government in Gaza, with UN and western aid going directly to it's institutions.
Whereas I have seen no protests in Gaza against HAMAS or their rule.
Yes Israel probably helped create hamas, back when PLO was seen as the worst that can be, so? You're kinda hinting here that what, Israel somehow mind tricked the Palestinians into terrorism?
And wtf are you on about off agents and shit, you seem to be painting the Palestinians as some innocent simpletons tricked into terrorism by the evil Israeli puppeteers.

The rockets started flying once Israel removed it's settlements and army presence from Gaza.

The Israeli government supports Hamas

“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

Maybe you should look at the strategy of the Netanyahu administration, their funding of Hamas, and consider how we arrived at this moment.

If you're going to blame Palestinians in Gaza for Hamas maintaining power not sure how you can ignore Netanyahu's role. Also, it's an Osama Bin Laden talking point to blame civilians for their government to justify war crimes.