Should Dana stop fighters crossing the line with attacks on family members?

[Goutfather]

You didn't address that point, though, and that was clearly only part of an overall post. You just came in with a stupid take that didn't even address what you just quoted, let alone the entire post.

wrong. my post was 100% responsive to yours.

Plus, you are objectively wrong. Sports commissions do have the authority and use it frequently to regulate the conduct, including speech and dress. Also, you don't seem to know what conduct means.

wrong again. you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. maybe you should read up on this topic first before you speak. for starters, you can read about the time the idiots in the nsac floated the idea of adopting a rule to regulate trash talk. they seem just as confused as you are. unsurprisingly, they never went forward with this rule.

I'm not "making it more complicated" - the notion of free speech is complicated, obviously. Refusing to acknowledge that is on you for being dumb, not on me for making it complicated.

Miss me with this level of conversation. If I want to know what some mouth breather will offer by way of oversimplified talking points, I'll let you know.

the issue you raised is whether commissions (i.e., government entities) should regulate fighters’ mean speech. the simple answer is “no, because they can’t.” nevertheless, you took a long analytical path to nowhere by reasoning that speech becomes conduct when it’s promoting a fight. i was being charitable when i said you’re “making it more complicated” than necessary. in truth, that reasoning is so dumb it’s actually dangerous.

 

[Stump]

wrong. my post was 100% responsive to yours.

wrong again. you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. maybe you should read up on this topic first before you speak. for starters, you can read about the time the idiots in the nsac floated the idea of adopting a rule to regulate trash talk. they seem just as confused as you are. unsurprisingly, they never went forward with this rule.

the issue you raised is whether commissions (i.e., government entities) should regulate fighters’ mean speech. the simple answer is “no, because they can’t.” nevertheless, you took a long analytical path to nowhere by reasoning that speech becomes conduct when it’s promoting a fight. i was being charitable when i said you’re “making it more complicated” than necessary. in truth, that reasoning is so dumb it’s actually dangerous.

There are obviously more commissions in sports than the ufc, which is less a commission and more a private company - hence my post.

Commissions in my post clearly did not mean governments, you actual moron.

And here you go with your horseshit again. Dangerous my ass. The term "free speech" has become such a dog whistle for idiots.

And I did not make the claim that speech "becomes" conduct. Speech is conduct. Always has been. No analytical path necessary.

 

[Goutfather]

There are obviously more commissions in sports than the ufc, which is less a commission and more a private company - hence my post.

Commissions in my post clearly did not mean governments, you actual moron.

And here you go with your horseshit again. Dangerous my ass. The term "free speech" has become such a dog whistle for idiots.

And I did not make the claim that speech "becomes" conduct. Speech is conduct. Always has been. No analytical path necessary.

this is hilarious. if i didn’t know better, i’d say you’re trolling. but since you’ve exposed yourself as someone with no knowledge of anything, there’s no point in arguing with you.

 

[13Seconds]

You don’t get paid for press conferences. You get paid after your fight. Moron.

You do get paid for showing up for fight week obligations.

If you don't show up for media day, press conference etc, you get pulled from the fight.

 

[aali14]

3 words : Snow in Driveway

 

[usernamee]

No, I think he should egg them on.

 

[Vairloff]

Your feelings are blinding you sir.
This isn't a fucking board meeting its fuckin fighting.

You quite obviously have never seen Ricardo Mayorga.

Freedom of speech is being able to say what you want....the consequences of saying these things depends on the stage.

Try discussing next time instead of coming at me like a dickhead.

So mayby try to say to your neighbour you,ll kill him and his family.
We,ll see if "freedom od speech" means what you think it mean.
There is boarders, you cant say anything.
And because people think like you we,ve got so fuckedup world.

 

[StonedLemur]

So mayby try to say to your neighbour you,ll kill him and his family.
We,ll see if "freedom od speech" means what you think it mean.
There is boarders, you cant say anything.
And because people think like you we,ve got so fuckedup world.

You guys are retarded...you know that right?

You're mixing regular life with prize fighting.

 

[Vairloff]

You guys are retarded...you know that right?

You're mixing regular life with prize fighting.

I was expecting that kind of answer.
Laws and respect should be aplicated to everything.
Its not WWE its sport. (Or we wont to think its a sport)
Mayby neanderthals get exited after someone thretening someones life or talking shit about someones family. but normal people dont need that to get interested in fight.
Respect in martial arts, ring a bell?
These threats and shit talk only drive normal people away from this sport.

 

[StonedLemur]

I was expecting that kind of answer.
Laws and respect should be aplicated to everything.
Its not WWE its sport. (Or we wont to think its a sport)
Mayby neanderthals get exited after someone thretening someones life or talking shit about someones family. but normal people dont need that to get interested in fight.
Respect in martial arts, ring a bell?
These threats and shit talk only drive normal people away from this sport.

Laws?
Wtf are you on about?

There's no laws, and there shouldn't be...to stop people from saying stupid shit.

We should allow stupid shit to be said, so we can see who the fuckin stupid people are.

The fact that you want government and kaws to dictate these things says all I need to know sir.

Have a good one.
Merry Christmas btw.

 

[philweed]

You do get paid for showing up for fight week obligations.

If you don't show up for media day, press conference etc, you get pulled from the fight.

Baaaahahahaha! You know nothing. Shut up, kid.

 

[13Seconds]

Baaaahahahaha! You know nothing. Shut up, kid.

Im speaking fact after fact and your only reply is to deny everything and awkwardly laugh it off. You're coming across as a demented old grandpa.

Again, Conor Mcgregor, the biggest superstar in the game, got pulled from UFC 200. Why was he pulled?

 

[icerealm]

i think its fine, at the end its just words
we men dont get hurt by words, women do

 

[Brigfa2]

There is no doubt that the more heated a pre -fight conflict gets, the more interest the fight will generate. And I feel Douche White is conveniently hiding behind the "this is the fight business" slogan fully realizing this fact.

I still think however that family members, especially dead ones, should be off limits and that is something Dana could enforce.

Do you guys that he should penalize fighters who do cross the line? I feel most fighters don't go there anyway , the two instances I know of are Colby and Conor, the asshole and the drunk.

Thoughts?

You are the douche one, why are you not mentioning fighters talking about O'Mallay and Garry's wives? But you are talking about ancient Conor lolll What a POS
At least Dana is not a hypocrite like you, he says everything is okay. And dead criminal father is not more important than a wife btw

 

[philweed]

Im speaking fact after fact and your only reply is to deny everything and awkwardly laugh it off. You're coming across as a demented old grandpa.

Again, Conor Mcgregor, the biggest superstar in the game, got pulled from UFC 200. Why was he pulled?

Just stop, son. Everytime you speak you’re making me cringe.

 

[theleerygoose]

Boy you guys are in for a shock when Dana leaves and fighter’s aren’t allowed to say anything anymore.

 

[chinarice]

Dana beats his wife. Like he cares what fighters say about another fighter, their family or their upbringing.

 

[2004 account]

I mean free speech is free speech but I also believe that Dana is a hypocrite and the ufc enforce rules selectively when they reprimand, ban or kick fighters out of the ufc for lesser shit like Mir's figurative I wanna kill Brock, miguel torres' tweet, or volkman's political post fight speech



If you gonna enforce shit then keep it consistent and professional. Ufc conducts itself like a Bush league what's new?

 

[Stump]

this is hilarious. if i didn’t know better, i’d say you’re trolling. but since you’ve exposed yourself as someone with no knowledge of anything, there’s no point in arguing with you.

Concession accepted.

Merry Christmas

 

[Streeter]

If a fighter gonna cry about hurt feelings maybe they in wrong sport.