International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I lean towards paganism. Israel is hardly secular,

Malarkey. It is secular.

and religion doesn't play a role in my analysis of this conflict.

Sure, you can choose to not consider the importance of religion in your analysis, but it's top-level delusion if you think religion doesn't play an important role in this conflict.

This is such an unbelievable cop out and an insane level of delusion. The IDF is killing the civilians, they are responsible.

The IDF is doing this right now and every day since the one single day you guys can only point to.

No.

I could write a 5 page dissertation about Hamas' use of human shields in conflicts, but it'd go over your head so I'm just going to leave this here:

 

[iwannabeadored]

If Hamas surrendered and returned the hostages and the IDF kept on attacking?!?

I would FULLY condemn them.

It's strange how the rage is pointed at the IDF instead of the monsters who raped and murdered on Oct. 7th, then surrounded themselves with women and children, then said "HAHAHHAHA!!! You CAN'T hit back! Children, don't you know! HAHAHAHAHA!"

Yeah, but the IDF are the monsters though for targeting Hamas.

Lol god this is just drivel. You weren’t pointing at the IDF anytime in the last 10 years for murdering innocents? You know you’re full of shit lmao

 

[Strychnine]

Lol god this is just drivel. You weren’t pointing at the IDF anytime in the last 10 years for murdering innocents? You know you’re full of shit lmao

And when did you point out your disgust when Slobodan Milosevich set up rape camps to "ethnically cleanse" (via breeding) the Muslim population in the Balkans?

I supported Camp Bondsteel, so you can go climb your thumb there "bro." I helped stop the dying.

You know you're full of $hit lmao.

 

[iwannabeadored]

And when did you point out your disgust when Slobodan Milosevich set up rape camps to "ethnically cleanse" (via breeding) the Muslim population in the Balkans?

I supported Camp Bondsteel, so you can go climb your thumb there "bro." I helped stop the dying.

You know you're full of $hit lmao.

We’re talking about Israel and Palestine and you strawman talking the balkans?! Make it make sense.

 

[Strychnine]

We’re talking about Israel and Palestine and you strawman talking the balkans?! Make it make sense.

Yeah, we're done here.

 

[Koya]

Palestinians recount details of torture and abuse by Israeli forces

 

[moreorless87]

And when did you point out your disgust when Slobodan Milosevich set up rape camps to "ethnically cleanse" (via breeding) the Muslim population in the Balkans?

I supported Camp Bondsteel, so you can go climb your thumb there "bro." I helped stop the dying.

You know you're full of $hit lmao.

You mean a decade before this forum existed? plus of course he was not doing so with the direct support of our governments.

We rightly point to the bravey of Russians for example who stand up to Putins authoritarian rule and protest his war crimes, we don't say "but why didnt you kick up the same fuss about atrocities in sub Saharan Africa?" or worse yet call them out for not talking about events from decades previously..

The idea that focusing on improving your own nations morality which you can directly influence seems to be pretty widely supported when it helps support US interests but when it doesnt we quickly seem to get this kind of "whataboutism".

Honestly though regardless of that this is clearly a very major event in which very large amounts of civilians are dying very quickly, it deserves to be heavily focused on.

 

[Koya]

"HAHAHHAHA!!! You CAN'T hit back! Children, don't you know! HAHAHAHAHA!"

Yeah, but the IDF are the monsters though for targeting Hamas

There's only 15K or children killed and of scenes like that amongst the 29K Palestinians that have been killed.

totally not targeting defenseless children. Something something collateral damage something something Palestinian lives are not worth the same

And it's not gore btw the child is clearly blurred, I'm very attentive to not post anything contrary to the forum rules. Dozens of videos of slaughters and inhumane massacres of children I never posted there because of that.

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[sangreporsangre]

 

[Blayt7hh]

So when Israeli's rape Palestinian women, how does the "human shield" narrative factor into this? Like, were they trying to rape someone from Hamas and a Palestinian girl got in the way?

Israel/oPt: UN experts appalled by reported human rights violations against Palestinian women and girls​

Israel/oPt: UN experts appalled by reported human rights violations against Palestinian women and girls

GENEVA (19 February 2024) – UN experts* today expressed alarm over credible allegations of egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

www.ohchr.org

Except it doesn’t say any Palestinian women have been raped. This is the second time in two days where you posted a link and didn’t even read it

So don’t talk to anyone about narratives when you’ve been minimizing rapes this whole time. The reality is you seem to be fine with it, or at least willing to ignore it as long as the side your cheering for is the perpetrator

 

[Ruv]

 

[SammyPops]

I am not going

Don't forget to include Hamas terrorists.

No.

Not even close.

The very same UN that gave money to the terrorists and employed them in UNRWA?
The ICJ hasn't condemned Israel for its actions during the ongoing conflict in Gaza. You're just parroting South Africa's talking points.

You're the guy who said Israel has been colonizing the West Bank for 70 years. I corrected you by saying Israel's occupation of the West Bank started in 1967. That's 57 years.
You keep repeating this nonsensical claim that the "Palestinians" were in Israel for 700 years. I'd already mentioned that the Jews have been there for more than 3000 years.

And then you have the gall to call me a coward because I didn't want to take part in your Superbowl bet? I merely said I was going to root for the 49ers as somewhat of an afterthought, and your degenerate ass got all aroused and tried to bully me into participating in something I couldn't give a rat's ass for. To top it all off, I would have lost the bet had I taken it. But your dumbass can't even see how retarded this catch-22 in which you've locked me is.

I am not going to waste too much time with you b/c you lie, mislead, misrepresent as is your nature of being a shill.

I will address one statement. Of course Hamas is guilty of similar war crimes as Israeli politicians and soliers. The truly fucked up part is that you do not understand that.

 

[SammyPops]

no, you're thinking of your Hamas heroes.

there are so many already in Hell. hopefully the IDF and Israel quadruple that count.

fuck Hamas

Fuck Hezbollah

if you're down with either, fuck you too

Thankfully there is enough room in hell for both sides, knowing there will be way more Israelis there tbf

 

[kflo]

Thankfully there is enough room in hell for both sides, knowing there will be way more Israelis there tbf

you mean joooos.....................we know you sammy....

 

[Blayt7hh]

It's funny, because he rarely converses with anybody. He just spams the thread with propaganda and talks to himself. I think he fancies himself some kind of revolutionary. Solving the world's problems 900 links at a time...

He keeps adding “drivel” into his posts now when he shares his nonsense. That comes from me calling him out and constantly sharing social media “drivel”. Apparently he took that really hard because the was over a month ago and he’s still butthurt about it.

 

[SammyPops]

I've said "Fuck Hamas" more times than you in these threads.

Now, your turn to say "Fuck the IDF" for being terrorists... you wont.

They avoid any criticism of Israel and the IDF. It may have something to do with them seeing Palestinians as subhuman, maybe hatred for Muslims or brown people. There is also this fucked up logic that some seem to have that since history started on Oct 7 and now Israel can do whatever it wanted b/c Israel civilians were killed.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

I am not going

I am not going to waste too much time with you b/c you lie, mislead, misrepresent as is your nature of being a shill.

I will address one statement. Of course Hamas is guilty of similar war crimes as Israeli politicians and soliers. The truly fucked up part is that you do not understand that.

The Jews were ethnically cleansed from Gaza in 2005.

 

[sangreporsangre]