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I mean they're not modern mma but they're part of the evolution of the sport.I agree, this will get alot of old school die-hards upset but I don't consider Rings or Pamcrase mma.
I mean they're not modern mma but they're part of the evolution of the sport.I agree, this will get alot of old school die-hards upset but I don't consider Rings or Pamcrase mma.
Randy had a nice tug outside of the UFC
Yeah kinda makes this thread pointless. Just a lot of people listing past prime fighters. Like no shit they did worse.Hard to judge. A lot of guys are shot by the time they leave the UFC.
Yeah I suppose that makes sense too now that I think about it that way.Don’t think it was the org more than him just improved over time to adapt his style to mma.
Randy got subbed every time he left the UFC by guys with much lesser legacies.Don't make the mistake of assuming Randy wouldn't have won if those orgs were real MMA. You can't really extrapolate to the UFC from Rings. Same with Pancrase and Shooto.
Not really. He's just an example to get the ball rolling.I did not see a Randy hate post on my 2024 BINGO card
Yeah, it might just be Barnett.I don't think most of very aware of that part of the timeline because most of the significant fighters that were MMA pioneers had left by that point, or well before it.
comment matches perfectly with your av broFrancis Ngannou.
For sure I never really liked any ruleset with limited ground strikes. They are interesting from a sort of historical perspective but I like the modern rules.True. I was just saying the restrictions obviously affect fighters in different ways. Randy's GNP being only open palm strikes doesn't give him much of a chance against submissions fighters. Bas learned submissions to counter his disadvantages. Those rules highlight a different skillset more favorably I think.
Because after UFC they are all fucked up because of injuries and that....Randy got subbed every time he left the UFC by guys with much lesser legacies.
It happens. Some fighters just don't perform in other orgs. Bader did great in Bellator but so so in UFC. Rizzo did great in UFC and so so everywhere else
Yeah kinda makes this thread pointless. Just a lot of people listing past prime fighters. Like no shit they did worse.
Anthony was also a good 6-7 years past his prime self who held the UFC belt in the UFC.anthony pettis had a bad post-ufc run in pfl.
sergio pettis did fantastic for himself in bellator
Mark Hunt did better in the UFC than he probably did in PRIDE. Stumbled in his debut but then started KO'ing most of his wins while competing.
Randy is hard to compare to modern fighters because he only had a few fights in the UFC before venturing out and no one had tested his sub-defense. Remember, this was still the late 1990s. He got submitted a few times, worked on that area and was never subbed again.Which fighters did great in the UFC but not good or even horrible outside of the UFC?
Randy Couture
Who are some others?
This is the case for most everyone.Everybody who got old or past prime in the UFC
Not really. He's just an example to get the ball rolling.
I also mentioned how Jorge Santiago seemed like a world beater outside the ufc but did nothing in the ufc.
Vitor is another one. Great UFC career but strikeforce and pride were whatever