International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[iwannabeadored]

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LOL. All it took was some vague threats from Iran to get Biden back on the Israel train.

Their relationship is now "ironclad" again.

Not directed at anyone in here, but Biden's desperate double speak is getting pathetic and desperate. Someone should tell him that all those militant leftists that he's paying hollow lip service to, have the internet and can tell when he's full of shit. He's shooting himself in the foot by even paying attention to them, let alone trying to appease them with his lies. I mean, they're gonna figure out that you're just full of shit. Pick a lane and stick with it, ya decrepit old mummy.

Does Iran have a right to attack Israel since Israel struck first? Because this is the entire premises of Israel attacking Gaza

 

[Siver!]

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Does Iran have a right to attack Israel since Israel struck first? Because this is the entire premises of Israel attacking Gaza

It definitely has the right, but it's probably not a great idea.

Israel is a lunatic state.

I suppose they could try to force Israel to spread itself too thin by attacking through various channels and nations.

 

[iwannabeadored]

It definitely has the right, but it's probably not a great idea.

Israel is a lunatic state.

I suppose they could try to force Israel to spread itself too thin by attacking through various channels and nations.

I agree. I think Israel wants the U.S. to invade Iran.

 

[HereticBD]

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Does Iran have a right to attack Israel since Israel struck first? Because this is the entire premises of Israel attacking Gaza

Everyone can attack anyone they want. If you're a little shit nation, and you want to kick the hornet's nest, go for it. What the aggressors don't have, is a right to be left alone when the nation they attacked hits back. You gotta know your place in this world. I'm fine with Palestine or any other little shit nation doing whatever the fuck they want. Much like I'm fine with the nation they attacked retaliating, and giving back 1000x what they received. It is what it is. Nobody has a license to kill and be left alone.

To quote a movie line:

"The only thing that matters, is if my violence can defeat your violence."

Sorry, not sorry, that the garden hoe mafia in Palestine is finding that out.

 

[kflo]

It definitely has the right, but it's probably not a great idea.

Israel is a lunatic state.

I suppose they could try to force Israel to spread itself too thin by attacking through various channels and nations.

Funny Israel has pretty good relations with the nations that don’t want to eradicate them……weird…..

 

[Siver!]

Everyone can attack anyone they want. If you're a little shit nation, and you want to kick the hornet's nest, go for it. What the aggressors don't have, is a right to be left alone when the nation they attacked hits back. You gotta know your place in this world. I'm fine with Palestine or any other little shit nation doing whatever the fuck they want. Much like I'm fine with the nation they attacked retaliating, and giving back 1000x what they received. It is what it is. Nobody has a license to kill and be left alone.

To quote a movie line:

"The only thing that matters, is if my violence can defeat your violence."

Sorry, not sorry, that the garden hoe mafia in Palestine is finding that out.

Shutter Island?

"There's no moral order as pure as this storm. There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"

 

[The Diplomat]

LOL. All it took was some vague threats from Iran to get Biden back on the Israel train.

Their relationship is now "ironclad" again.

Not directed at anyone in here, but Biden's desperate double speak is getting pathetic and desperate. Someone should tell him that all those militant leftists that he's paying hollow lip service to, have the internet and can tell when he's full of shit. He's shooting himself in the foot by even paying attention to them, let alone trying to appease them with his lies. I mean, they're gonna figure out that you're just full of shit. Pick a lane and stick with it, ya decrepit old mummy.

None of this matters. At the end of the day, the US will always side with Israel. "Double speak" as if you're the one trying to support a strong ally, while also trying to prevent genocide.

 

[HereticBD]

Shutter Island?

"There's no moral order as pure as this storm. There's no moral order at all. There's just this: can my violence conquer yours?"

That's the one. I knew I butchered it. LOL.

But yeah, pretty much. This whole talk about who has "the right" to attack, is silly. There's nothing stopping Russia from launching a nuke on their enemies, except the consequences for doing so. It is what it is. Don't kick the big dog in the nuts, unless you're ready to face it's wrath.

 

[HereticBD]

None of this matters. At the end of the day, the US will always side with Israel. "Double speak" as if you're the one trying to support a strong ally, while also trying to prevent genocide.

There's no "genocide" going on. Biden is trying to appease the idiots who think there is, while supplying the "genociders" with weapons...that they don't even need. It is indeed desperate double speak, because he needs those retards in the streets to vote for him.

 

[iwannabeadored]

Lol. You lie so much that every time I call you out on it you just move right along as if you weren’t caught in another lie. You’ll just follow up with more lies, rinse, repeat.

Can someone be happy in Gaza if there’s a new settlement built in the WB? Can a family in the WB prosper there even if Gaza is at war?

Does Israel view Gaza the same as they view area c of the WB? (I know you won’t address this question).

And I NEVER claimed suffering of the pals in Gaza would end if Hamas wasn’t there. But they’d possibly have the power themselves to prosper if Hamas wasn’t there to steal and suffocate. Israel had no interest in building settlements in Gaza. They LEFT Gaza before Hamas was voted into power. Voting in Hamas just ensured they couldn’t be trusted independently, and ensured their governing body would steal, suffocate and use all resources to plot against Israel.

The pals will likely continue to suffer because they will continue to believe Israel is theirs. I re-posted the polls that showed the majority were against a 2 state solution, and almost 3/4th were against strengthening the PA, building an Arab coalition and bringing about an Arab-Israeli peace and normalization.

So, no, I don’t think suffering magically ends if Hamas wasn’t there. Keep lying.

There's no "genocide" going on. Biden is trying to appease the idiots who think there is, while supplying the "genociders" with weapons...that they don't even need. It is indeed desperate double speak, because he needs those retards in the streets to vote for him.

There’s no genocide for you because you say so? lol fucking idiot

 

[ferrisjso]

There's no "genocide" going on. Biden is trying to appease the idiots who think there is, while supplying the "genociders" with weapons...that they don't even need. It is indeed desperate double speak, because he needs those retards in the streets to vote for him.

We were never going to vote for him. The average leftist is either done with electoral politics or trying to delude themselves about the viability of third parties. People who hate Trump see a second Trump term as the only way they can punish resistance liberals. They will not vote for him but it is the only form of retaliation the electoral system will allow and that is what people want more than ever retaliation.

 

[tastaylvr]

That's the one. I knew I butchered it. LOL.

But yeah, pretty much. This whole talk about who has "the right" to attack, is silly. There's nothing stopping Russia from launching a nuke on their enemies, except the consequences for doing so. It is what it is. Don't kick the big dog in the nuts, unless you're ready to face it's wrath.

Yet I’m sure you would call the police if someone beat the shit out of you and stole your items.

People like you never have a consistent world view lol

 

[The_Renaissance]

There surprisingly many pro pally demonstrations in W Europe
I always wonder why so much of that, but so little for Ukraine.

If you go in the Ukraine thread many pro Pally/Hamas posters are not exactly pro Russia but they are anti Ukraine and their reasoning tends to be around NATO. They are basically anti Western and so adopt whichever side is anti Western in both conflicts.

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Does Iran have a right to attack Israel since Israel struck first? Because this is the entire premises of Israel attacking Gaza

Yes they have a right. Tit for tat. But they will not exist anymore. If you think Gaza is bad, wait til the gloves come off for Iran. BKFC levels of war. And not only the Israeli military. Iran will decimated. Cut off the snakes head and all of its offshoots vanish.

 

[Rholk]

Interesting piece on Hamas casualty numbers:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Little note, at this point that doens't mean that it has been proven they've made up some 11k victims, but it very much does indicate they're just slinging stuff out there.

 

[Blayt7hh]

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Does Iran have a right to attack Israel since Israel struck first? Because this is the entire premises of Israel attacking Gaza

Truthfully, yes. It’s a tough situation though. The guy they hit was helping orchestrate the attacks on Israel. But by hitting them they’ve all but forced Iran to respond to maintain it’s reputation

 

[Blayt7hh]

Interesting piece on Hamas casualty numbers:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Little note, at this point that doens't mean that it has been proven they've made up some 11k victims, but it very much does indicate they're just slinging stuff out there.

It’s been clear for a while now that you can’t put a realistic number on the death toll yet. I swear they hit 30k around December and that number has since stagnated, despite continued rhetoric about Israeli aggression. So what gives? Was it inflated a while back and the numbers only now catching up?

That’s part of why I’ve avoided talking the death toll. No one actually know it imo

 

[kflo]

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So the land stealing will continue because Palestinians feel like Israel is there’s? You make no sense.



Alll that yip yapping and you still didn’t address the land stealing.

Well I keep pointing out your lies and you keep moving along.

The article I posted directly addressed the building of settlements in the disputed territory of area C of the West Bank. Deal with it.

The majority of pals are against a 2 state solution because they feel like Israel is theirs.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Interesting piece on Hamas casualty numbers:

Hamas-Run Gaza Health Ministry Admits to Flaws in Casualty Data

The Hamas-run Gaza Ministry of Health said on April 6 that it had “incomplete data” for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical...

www.fdd.org

Little note, at this point that doens't mean that it has been proven they've made up some 11k victims, but it very much does indicate they're just slinging stuff out there.

The fatalities and collateral damage are gonna be huge, I don't massively distrust their claims but if you can't fight for shit and have started a war with a nation that can literally vaporise you if they didn't hold back, your only option is to try and gain public sympathy and hope other countries pressurise said nation into stopping your destruction.

 

[SammyPops]

It definitely has the right, but it's probably not a great idea.

Israel is a lunatic state.

I suppose they could try to force Israel to spread itself too thin by attacking through various channels and nations.

A too thin Israel means Americans will die for the zionists, to support ethnic cleansing and plausible genocide. Maybe that will wake up Americans to the nature of thier ally

 

[Hog-train]

It’s been clear for a while now that you can’t put a realistic number on the death toll yet. I swear they hit 30k around December and that number has since stagnated, despite continued rhetoric about Israeli aggression. So what gives? Was it inflated a while back and the numbers only now catching up?

That’s part of why I’ve avoided talking the death toll. No one actually know it imo

Then how does Israel know they killed 13k Hamas?