Max Should Be the Number 2 Ranked Lightweight Right Now, Right?

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What the heck is this list, the person(s) who made this must not watch MMA. Am I crazy or should Max not be ranked #2 right now and not #9? Gaethje could easily have challenged Islam for the belt if not Dustin, he was right at the top. Realistically Max should only be behind Arman, even if you put Dustin ahead of him he still should ranked at least #3.
 

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Styles make fights... just because you knocked out a top contender doesn't make you a top contender.

At least that's what Wax Holloway fans said about Max's chances against Topuria even though Topuria knocked out someone he couldn't even get a W against after trying 3 times.
 
Styles make fights... just because you knocked out a top contender doesn't make you a top contender.

At least that's what Wax Holloway fans said about Max's chances against Topuria even though Topuria knocked out someone he couldn't even get a W against after trying 3 times.

Wut? Knocking out a top contender doesn't make you a top contender? Uh, yeah it does, that's kind of how it works and we get it, you're on Ilia's nuts. Also, are you saying Max ISN'T a top contender at LW after that win?
 
Ranking wise and skill wise it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to put Max at #2. Gaethje obviously should have been lower before, and should be much lower now with Max just ahead of him.
Your post makes some sense, untill i recall he beat Fiziev, Poirier and Chandler, Chandler might be a tad high, specially at the moment, but those are 3 top 10 wins, #2 going into UFC 300 was probably right.
 
Wut? Knocking out a top contender doesn't make you a top contender? Uh, yeah it does, that's kind of how it works and we get it, you're on Ilia's nuts. Also, are you saying Max ISN'T a top contender at LW after that win?

Yes, I'm saying he isn't. Rank #9 is where he belongs.

If styles make fights and Topuria knocking out Volk has no bearing on the results of his fight with Max (like Wax Holloway fans claim) then Max shouldn't be a top contender after knocking out Justin.
 
I don't think so. We've only seen him against Poirier years ago and now Gaethje. Sample size of two, currently 1-1 at lightweight. He could beat Gaethje but lose to other top 10. We don't know yet.

Tsarukyan beat Charlie Olives and took his ranking. Max beat Gaethje and moved to ninth. Whether he we believe he is staying at 145 or if he would beat the guys ahead of him is irrelevant, he should jump the guy he beat. The fact that he didn't makes zero sense.
 
As was pointed out to me, previously. If Max had committed to staying at LW. Then that is probably what his rank would have been.

It’s not UFC fuckery, so much as what actually makes sense for both divisions, considering the circumstances.
 
i cannot say he's better than all those guys above except justin. one exemplary win against someone thats not the champ or ever was shouldn't immediately propel you over the guys that worked their way up the ranks.

personally speaking, i think do bronx, armaan, DP, and chandler (on a good night) probably beat him. the rest, i think he plows through.
 
Yes, I'm saying he isn't. Rank #9 is where he belongs.

If styles make fights and Topuria knocking out Volk has no bearing on the results of his fight with Max (like Wax Holloway fans claim) then Max shouldn't be a top contender after knocking out Justin.

That fight doesn't have any bearing on Max's fight with Justin, why would it? FW fights do nothing for your ranking at LW and vice versa. Max knocked out the #2 guy at LW, so that absolutely should put him up high in the LW rankings. That's kind of how it works. If someone said that Max's ranking at FW should change based on his fight at LW, then i'd say that's stupid.
 
Yes, I'm saying he isn't. Rank #9 is where he belongs.

If styles make fights and Topuria knocking out Volk has no bearing on the results of his fight with Max (like Wax Holloway fans claim) then Max shouldn't be a top contender after knocking out Justin.
top contender in featherweight or lightweight? i think they are guys in front of him for sure in the lightweight division. but in featherweight, nobody has an answer left for ilia beyond a volk rematch and max. aljo is a couple matches away from that opportunity too, a victory over yair would probably seal the deal for a title shot for him
 
That fight doesn't have any bearing on Max's fight with Justin, why would it? FW fights do nothing for your ranking at LW and vice versa. Max knocked out the #2 guy at LW, so that absolutely should put him up high in the LW rankings. That's kind of how it works. If someone said that Max's ranking at FW should change based on his fight at LW, then i'd say that's stupid.

No I meant people were saying that Topuria knocking out Volk did not mean that the same would happen to Max. They were even saying Max would beat Topuria.

Now, I'm saying that since styles make fights... Max shouldn't be ranked higher than #9.
 
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