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Why is Rogers being ranked ludicrous? Pretty sure Poatan was ranked after he beat Strickland. Max just got ranked at 155 after beating no one but Gaethje. Shane Carwin wasn’t even in the Top 25 at the start of 2009, but was ranked in the Top 10 after beating nobody worthwhile but Gonzaga...

To piggyback off of what @Ludwig von Mises said, you are evaluating Roger’s with the benefit of hindsight. Here are Sherdog’s rankings going into that fight. Brett Rogers was not only ranked, he was the highest ranked available Strikeforce heavyweight. There was nothing wrong with booking...

As was everyone who fought Overeem at that time. Incidentally, that Brett Rogers fight is Overeem’s sole defense of the Strikeforce HW title, and yet I don’t recall the last time I heard someone dog on him for it. Rogers was one of 5 total HW title defenses for Fedor, but he gets shit on for...

Fought for the Strikeforce HW title. But you probably meant after that. ;)

Yet as we’ve seen, Fedor fought good competition more often than Stipe did if you break their careers down year by year. We’ve covered a lot of things, so I’m just going to bullet-point some thoughts here. —There’s validity to saying they fought in diff eras, more specifically different MMA...

I did not ask about Babalu being a heavyweight, I asked about him being a top level opponent. An opponent Fedor fought in his rookie year, whereas Stipe didn’t fight anyone on that level in his. There’s nothing cherry-picked about my timeframe, it’s roughly the same timeframe in each...

How is Babalu, who has wins over Shogun and Chael and later became Strikeforce LHW champ, not a top level opponent? 2002—Schilt and Herring 2003– Nog as well as Fujita, who was still in MMA News’ top 10 and had been in everyone’s top 10 just before that. (Plus Goodridge, who was middling and...

Well, the thread right above this one right now is called “How good was Fedor really,” so I’m gonna go ahead and say “no,” Sherbros are mostly the same. ;)

I wouldn’t even say “still ranked,” as that sort of implies that they shouldn’t be. Arlovski was on a great win streak and was the #2 HW in the world by most accounts when they fought. Sylvia was coming off a loss in a fight for the UFC Interim HW title, and was #5 in the world when he fought...

I think just calling it control time does a bit of a disservice to Arman’s performance. He outstruck Oliveira in that round in sig strikes 18-5, and only 6 of those 18 were on the ground. Oliveira lost that round everywhere and really didn’t have much for Arman in rd 3 aside from the d’arce...

MMA history is full of fighters winning fights that we didn’t think they would. If Poatan had to legitimately work his way up the rankings, there’s no guarantee he’d have earned a middleweight title shot.

We don’t know that he’d have run through MW. The dude got a very quick path to the MW belt because of his past with Izzy, and then got an even faster path to the LW title. That’s just the truth of it.

Well the MW championship he had was gifted too lol! And its not like he was some long-reigning champ where a TS in a new division could be justified after one win. He got the MW title shot after beating two nobodies plus Strickland, which is pretty weak. He had 0 successful defenses, moved up...

That was the only LHW fight he had and he got a title shot based on that single win. That’s some pretty egregious preferential treatment imo.

<PlusJuan> This. I enjoy his fights, I’m not a hater; but his repeated gifted title shots really annoy me, and his legions of fans asking “iS hE tHe GOAT yEt” gets really old when his resume is kind of thin overall. I don’t consider myself a fan of his really, although I generally enjoy his...

In round 3? He didn’t go out or play possum, he laid flat to alleviate the pressure of the D’Arce. It is a legitimate defense, Rener Gracie explained here:

Gonzaga-Cro Cop as well.

Anderson-Vitor Conor-Aldo Yair-Zombie Edwards-Usman Max-Gaethje I’m not trying to be some edgy contrarian by putting Max at #5. Anderson was #1 because I’d never seen anything like it; Conor #2 because no one had ever beaten José at FW before, and to do it in the first exchange of the fight...

I hate when I don’t pick up on sarcasm. :(