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I was just about to pull the trigger on a pair of Noble NB-1’s the other day, But decided to wait for their updated batch. So I ended up going for these sadly...
These and some brown bag gloves were the only ones in stock. I had seen Danny Garcia training in some nice gloves with the cuffs in leopard spots, but could never make up what brand it was. Till I was surfing in the NV State Athletitic Comission website and stumbled accross the brand and further browsing lead to these said Garcia gloves.
There was one negative feedback on Youtube and the only post I found here was with @hangulmalmotayo also questioning about them. This was around 2016 so I said with guys like Garcia and Hurd using their gloves now a days who knows maybe they have improved since then. I crossed my fingers and shot away.
Details:
12oz Adonis Garcia Training Gloves
White and Grey
Lace Ups
The details read:
• Cowhide Leather Construction
• Hand Crafted
• Hand Stitched
• Multi Layered “Flex Evo Foam”
Price: $65 (always advertised at over $100)
Shipping: Almost $20 like 40 cents shy.
I ordered these on a Wednesday at around 12:00am and received a shipping confirmation email at around 8:00am. Received them on Friday so 2 full days. If their shipping was as on point as their gloves they’d be making top brands look like Title’s $40 infused foam gloves, but that’s sadly not the case.
I tried so hard to love these gloves. But they weren’t loving my hands back. Wish it could have been decent then I could carefully highlight all it’s features with better detail. But i’ll probably just break it down in 3 sections.
Quality/Craftsmanship
As you pick these gloves up you are instantly put off by how flimsy they look. They are very light not in a “well balanced” way but rather a cheap way. The material as in the padding and other areas all around give you like a solid plastic-ish feel. The smell is like a strong rubber chemical type of smell the same you might get from cheaper shoes off Walmart or Payless. I am not the most experienced guy with leather but try to educate myself as much as possible till I own better gloves and so on.The leather on this is suppose to be of Cowhide but the smell is very synthetic-like. I can’t identify too much with the pattern and texture and overall feel of the leather. It’s soft but has that hard glossy feel that gives it a cheap plastic look once you get up close and feel it out. At best it might be some medium grade, highly altered top grain leather sanded to a very thin layer. Unless it’s BS and it’s a hybrid. The padding is stiff as hell. Does not handle compression well and doesn’t seem like it’s going anywhere in terms of breaking in and getting softer. You hit the bag and it’s like you had nothing on. Very hard, little protection. There were a lot of misses in the stiching although it’s “Hand Stitched”. The palm has the cheapest material of all, it’s paper thin and looks like it might rip with the smallest scratch. The padding on it is so soft and wrinkly it’s like it was stuffed with plastic shopping bags. The laces felt like off some trunks you just bought at Walmart. They both seemed almost even, maybe 4 inches apart. But one was so much more elastic than the other I could go around the glove an extra time, so one lace was from 14-18 inches longer than the other. The right glove weighted 10.2oz and the left glove weighted at 10.4oz. How is that for a pair of 12oz? It was said their newly discovered “Flex Evo Foam” might come in at a different weight than labeled they just didn’t say they would come in a whole different size, the both of them.
Fit/Feel
One of the only good things is the liner. It’s soft but immediately you feel the lack of construction. The cuff feels like it has cardboard in the inside. The thumb is extremely uncomfortable and when you make a fist the glove is built in a way your fist isn’t closed properly and your wrist flexes back atleast a half an inch instead of you being able to leave it straight. Thats a no no. Because of this wrist support is non existent and prone to injury. As if the thumb couldn’t get anymore uncomfortable, getting the gloves on with wraps and laced up is like getting ready for a friendly social session on the bag, I like my bag but when im going to put in work I don’t generally try to be friendly to it, that’s impossible with these because your hand is so stiff and making a fist is so hard it’s like your giving the bag a thumbs up the whole time. “Your okay bag, but taking hits is your purpose, nothing personal”. Like mentioned before there is little to no protection, in any area you’d expect.
Conclusion
I gave the gloves the benefit of the doubt. And wrapped up to do some rounds on the bag. 3 rounds was all I could do! Have a small issue in my middle left knuckle, this only acts up when using crappy gloves or gloves that are too stiff out the box. Never any issues on my right hand. At the end of 3 rounds keeping a fist had me in unbearable discomfort. Even my right hand that never gets sore had some pain running all the way back to the right side on my last to Metacarpal bones. After those 3 rounds the gloves were left with some marks and wear. I was surprised as to how with only 3 rounds? Curiosity kept calling me till I took one for the team the week after and wrapped with more cushion on the knuckles and did another 9 rounds to atleast complete 12 rounds. The first 3 rounds on the first attempt I banged it a bit hard a few times but the second time I had some rib pain and hooking was a bitch. So I went pretty light the whole time with sometimes throwing some harder hooks at maybe 70% power when my ribs permitted. My hands started to give out after 5, I spend the whole minute breaks opening and closing my hands and rotating my wrists. The marks got worse. The protection sucks and contributed to the pain but I think it was more of how you have to make a fist in these.
End Result/Personal Thoughts
This purchase really pushed my buttons to be honest. I saw a product, put faith in it and invested my money in it, and I got suckered. I got purposely suckered. Why do i say? There’s other companies trying to just gain a buck but I’ll tell you why feeling suckered stood out a bit more with this purchase. Like the owner of the brand didn’t looked enough like a weasel on camera for me to avoid. I should have picked up the warning signs and aborted. There’s many brands being made in Pakistan but one thing that’s true is, eventhough they don’t have much history manufacturing gloves in the sport. A guy with a design and a vision puts out a project and with all the experienced lacked some of us still get good pairs from gear made in Pakistan. It’s because responsible investors who want to build a name and not get bashed for a crappy product invest in good quality materials. There may be some gear with some misses in the construction area. But good quality materials speak for themselves and you get the idea and appreciate what an investor or new team/company is trying to do, and put hope in a better product in the future just based on their efforts and services. This guy on the other hand has these crappy paper plastic like gloves made in Pakistan but when you see his posts of the gear he has custom made for Pro Boxers, or when he uploads a post of his regular stock gear being donated in large quantities. The gloves all of a sudden have a smoother construction and what seems like a grainier smoother looking leather. No good. There you have it folks if you want to be friendly to the bag and let it break your hands, this is the glove to buy.
** Below I will place normal pics then label them by after 3 rounds, after 12 rounds, and post pics of the same brand when it’s offered to pros or for donation/marketing.**
Fresh out the package:
These and some brown bag gloves were the only ones in stock. I had seen Danny Garcia training in some nice gloves with the cuffs in leopard spots, but could never make up what brand it was. Till I was surfing in the NV State Athletitic Comission website and stumbled accross the brand and further browsing lead to these said Garcia gloves.
There was one negative feedback on Youtube and the only post I found here was with @hangulmalmotayo also questioning about them. This was around 2016 so I said with guys like Garcia and Hurd using their gloves now a days who knows maybe they have improved since then. I crossed my fingers and shot away.
Details:
12oz Adonis Garcia Training Gloves
White and Grey
Lace Ups
The details read:
• Cowhide Leather Construction
• Hand Crafted
• Hand Stitched
• Multi Layered “Flex Evo Foam”
Price: $65 (always advertised at over $100)
Shipping: Almost $20 like 40 cents shy.
I ordered these on a Wednesday at around 12:00am and received a shipping confirmation email at around 8:00am. Received them on Friday so 2 full days. If their shipping was as on point as their gloves they’d be making top brands look like Title’s $40 infused foam gloves, but that’s sadly not the case.
I tried so hard to love these gloves. But they weren’t loving my hands back. Wish it could have been decent then I could carefully highlight all it’s features with better detail. But i’ll probably just break it down in 3 sections.
Quality/Craftsmanship
As you pick these gloves up you are instantly put off by how flimsy they look. They are very light not in a “well balanced” way but rather a cheap way. The material as in the padding and other areas all around give you like a solid plastic-ish feel. The smell is like a strong rubber chemical type of smell the same you might get from cheaper shoes off Walmart or Payless. I am not the most experienced guy with leather but try to educate myself as much as possible till I own better gloves and so on.The leather on this is suppose to be of Cowhide but the smell is very synthetic-like. I can’t identify too much with the pattern and texture and overall feel of the leather. It’s soft but has that hard glossy feel that gives it a cheap plastic look once you get up close and feel it out. At best it might be some medium grade, highly altered top grain leather sanded to a very thin layer. Unless it’s BS and it’s a hybrid. The padding is stiff as hell. Does not handle compression well and doesn’t seem like it’s going anywhere in terms of breaking in and getting softer. You hit the bag and it’s like you had nothing on. Very hard, little protection. There were a lot of misses in the stiching although it’s “Hand Stitched”. The palm has the cheapest material of all, it’s paper thin and looks like it might rip with the smallest scratch. The padding on it is so soft and wrinkly it’s like it was stuffed with plastic shopping bags. The laces felt like off some trunks you just bought at Walmart. They both seemed almost even, maybe 4 inches apart. But one was so much more elastic than the other I could go around the glove an extra time, so one lace was from 14-18 inches longer than the other. The right glove weighted 10.2oz and the left glove weighted at 10.4oz. How is that for a pair of 12oz? It was said their newly discovered “Flex Evo Foam” might come in at a different weight than labeled they just didn’t say they would come in a whole different size, the both of them.
Fit/Feel
One of the only good things is the liner. It’s soft but immediately you feel the lack of construction. The cuff feels like it has cardboard in the inside. The thumb is extremely uncomfortable and when you make a fist the glove is built in a way your fist isn’t closed properly and your wrist flexes back atleast a half an inch instead of you being able to leave it straight. Thats a no no. Because of this wrist support is non existent and prone to injury. As if the thumb couldn’t get anymore uncomfortable, getting the gloves on with wraps and laced up is like getting ready for a friendly social session on the bag, I like my bag but when im going to put in work I don’t generally try to be friendly to it, that’s impossible with these because your hand is so stiff and making a fist is so hard it’s like your giving the bag a thumbs up the whole time. “Your okay bag, but taking hits is your purpose, nothing personal”. Like mentioned before there is little to no protection, in any area you’d expect.
Conclusion
I gave the gloves the benefit of the doubt. And wrapped up to do some rounds on the bag. 3 rounds was all I could do! Have a small issue in my middle left knuckle, this only acts up when using crappy gloves or gloves that are too stiff out the box. Never any issues on my right hand. At the end of 3 rounds keeping a fist had me in unbearable discomfort. Even my right hand that never gets sore had some pain running all the way back to the right side on my last to Metacarpal bones. After those 3 rounds the gloves were left with some marks and wear. I was surprised as to how with only 3 rounds? Curiosity kept calling me till I took one for the team the week after and wrapped with more cushion on the knuckles and did another 9 rounds to atleast complete 12 rounds. The first 3 rounds on the first attempt I banged it a bit hard a few times but the second time I had some rib pain and hooking was a bitch. So I went pretty light the whole time with sometimes throwing some harder hooks at maybe 70% power when my ribs permitted. My hands started to give out after 5, I spend the whole minute breaks opening and closing my hands and rotating my wrists. The marks got worse. The protection sucks and contributed to the pain but I think it was more of how you have to make a fist in these.
End Result/Personal Thoughts
This purchase really pushed my buttons to be honest. I saw a product, put faith in it and invested my money in it, and I got suckered. I got purposely suckered. Why do i say? There’s other companies trying to just gain a buck but I’ll tell you why feeling suckered stood out a bit more with this purchase. Like the owner of the brand didn’t looked enough like a weasel on camera for me to avoid. I should have picked up the warning signs and aborted. There’s many brands being made in Pakistan but one thing that’s true is, eventhough they don’t have much history manufacturing gloves in the sport. A guy with a design and a vision puts out a project and with all the experienced lacked some of us still get good pairs from gear made in Pakistan. It’s because responsible investors who want to build a name and not get bashed for a crappy product invest in good quality materials. There may be some gear with some misses in the construction area. But good quality materials speak for themselves and you get the idea and appreciate what an investor or new team/company is trying to do, and put hope in a better product in the future just based on their efforts and services. This guy on the other hand has these crappy paper plastic like gloves made in Pakistan but when you see his posts of the gear he has custom made for Pro Boxers, or when he uploads a post of his regular stock gear being donated in large quantities. The gloves all of a sudden have a smoother construction and what seems like a grainier smoother looking leather. No good. There you have it folks if you want to be friendly to the bag and let it break your hands, this is the glove to buy.
** Below I will place normal pics then label them by after 3 rounds, after 12 rounds, and post pics of the same brand when it’s offered to pros or for donation/marketing.**
Fresh out the package: