All Time GOAT poll

CoffeeAndBeer said:
In GOAT status discussions... everything "counts".... of ALL TIME
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That "All Time" means 'of any fighter, in any era'. It means the 'greatest fighter to ever fight'.

And while I agree with you that their 'entire record' should and does count to some degree in GOAT considerations, I think the record outside their prime years, is greatly discounted as compared to the record inside their Prime Years.

That is why Fedor is still considered at the top by so many. Also why Anderson did not take a big hit in considerations for his fight career Pre UFC MW division, as many would argue that was all before his Prime and should not count much, if at all.

That was my complaint with Anderson fans as they would then argue for his WW big wins to count in his GOAT resume while saying the losses to Takase, Chonan, etc should not count because 'pre-Prime'.

Anderson fans were trying to have their cake and eat it too.
 
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Mack McMarkles said:
That "All Time" means 'of any fighter, in any era'. It means the 'greatest fighter to ever fight'.

And while I agree with you that their 'entire record' should and does count to some degree in GOAT considerations, I think the record outside their prime years, is greatly discounted as compared to the record inside their Prime Years.

That is why Fedor is still considered at the top by so many. Also why Anderson did not take a big hit in considerations for his fight career Pre UFC MW division, as many would argue that was all before his Prime and should not count much, if at all.

That was my complaint with Anderson fans as they would then argue for his WW big wins to count in his GOAT resume while saying the losses to Takase, Chonan, etc should not count because 'pre-Prime'.

Anderson fans were trying to have their cake and eat it too.
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Like Anderson had a better peak than GSP but peaks aren't representing the whole career
 
If I'm being biased because of my nationality and personal preferences: Fedor

If I'm being completely objective: GSP
 
Espresso said:
Aldo deserves a mention

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The GOAT is Fedor.
Everyone should know that.

Most gifted and talented
Jon Jones

Most creative, unpredictable and unreal
Silva

Most disiplined and smartest
GSP
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Great explanation
 
29-0 in avoiding natural weight class avoiding being focused by roster after getting title (there is no one in this list that avoided this circumstance) but khabib avoided this even in a weight class below his natural weight class
 
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i think matt hughes should be number 2 over usman in the the ww list sherdog just made. but that's just me. incredible record
 
Midget Boxer said:
Like Anderson had a better peak than GSP but peaks aren't representing the whole career
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Peak?
Silva was universally regarded as superior p4p fighter during the whole duration of GSP's championship reign.
 
Mack McMarkles said:
That was my complaint with Anderson fans as they would then argue for his WW big wins to count in his GOAT resume while saying the losses to Takase, Chonan, etc should not count because 'pre-Prime'.

Anderson fans were trying to have their cake and eat it too.
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Takase and Chonan fights didnt happen at WW.
You couldnt get more pathetic.
 
pankrat said:
Takase and Chonan fights didnt happen at WW.
You couldnt get more pathetic.
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Re-read my post as I NEVER said those two fights took place at WW.

What I said is that 'Anderson fans argue for his big WW fights to count' and that is fact, as they do.

At the same time they argue for his fights that took place after those fights that were losses should NOT count (or be greatly disregarded) towards his GOAT resume as he was not yet in his prime.

Well if we accept that those losses do not count (or get greatly discounted) because he was not yet in his prime, then the WW wins have to get the same treatment.

So when those same Anderson nuthuggers (ie, you) say that GSP's GOAT resume gets a negative hit for a loss or losses in his prime to Hughes and Serra, (which they often say), then they cannot deny Anderson also takes a much bigger hit for losses in his Prime to Takase, Chonan, Okami. If they say 'they don't count as that is not his prime', then they must erase those WW wins too.

No cake and eat it too defense is acceptable here for anyone not a blind Anderson nuthugger or GSP hater.
 
Mack McMarkles said:
Re-read my post as I NEVER said those two fights took place at WW.

What I said is that 'Anderson fans argue for his big WW fights to count' and that is fact, as they do.

At the same time they argue for his fights that took place after those fights that were losses should NOT count (or be greatly disregarded) towards his GOAT resume as he was not yet in his prime.

Well if we accept that those losses do not count (or get greatly discounted) because he was not yet in his prime, then the WW wins have to get the same treatment.

So when those same Anderson nuthuggers (ie, you) say that GSP's GOAT resume gets a negative hit for a loss or losses in his prime to Hughes and Serra, (which they often say), then they cannot deny Anderson also takes a much bigger hit for losses in his Prime to Takase, Chonan, Okami. If they say 'they don't count as that is not his prime', then they must erase those WW wins too.

No cake and eat it too defense is acceptable here for anyone not a blind Anderson nuthugger or GSP hater.
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Im not reading all that autism, loser.
It's what it is:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459
 
pankrat said:
Im not reading all that autism, loser.
It's what it is:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459
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You read it as you read all Anderson, GSp stuff to try and discredit GSP and nuthug Anderson.

You just realized I nailed Anderson and you and you have no reply, thus you resort back to the only thing you typically do, which is just spamming this.

Sadly for you smart fans of this sport know how much the UFC manipulates rankings, especially P4P on most sites.

What that means is that if they want a fighter to sell more PPV's then you will suddenly see Conor, Mighty Mouse, Anderson, etc soar to the top of the list. That is not saying that in some instances they do not deserve to be up there any way, but what matters most to the UFC is SALES.

So when you have a fighter like GSP, who is the companies most consistent top seller at the time, and Anderson is selling like crap, the best way to promote Anderson is to ensure he sits top P4P and then talk that up. Again, it makes sense, so no hating on the UFC for doing it.

A poster smarter than you posted the proof of that upthread. The UFC started promoting Anderson top P4P over GSP and suddenly his PPV took off. SUCCESS. A 1:1 correlation in fact for any one who wants to look upthread at the PPV sales stats.
 
Midget Boxer said:
What u think about that
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@pankrat is a spam. copy/paste poster so his go to spam reply is easy to predict.

He will tell you Anderson's steroid abuse was ONLY due to injury and if confronted with Anderson's own words on steroid use, that it is NEVER just short term specific use and that if caught it means you were using a long time, he will reply with a position that Anderson does not know what he is talking about when it comes to himself and they he, pankrat, knows better than Anderson about Anderson's own use.

he will literally tell you to stop listening to Anderson on the topic about his own use and instead listen to him. Peak trolling.
 
pankrat said:
Im not reading all that autism, loser.
It's what it is:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459
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2010 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-28930

2011 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-31030

GOAT rankings :

GSP #1
https://www.tapology.com/rankings/top-ten-all-time-greatest-mma-and-ufc-fighters

GSP #1
https://mmasucka.com/2020/06/02/goat-of-mma/

GSP #1
https://www.fightmatrix.com/all-time-mma-rankings/all-time-absolute/

GSP #1 tied with Khabib
https://www.givemesport.com/1672105-mcgregor-khabib-jones-stpierre-nunes-ufc-goat-contenders-ranked

GSP #1 tied with Jones
https://www.sportbible.com/ufc/news-ufc-and-mma-fighters-ranked-from-goat-to-not-a-fighter-20201121

Latest GOAT poll conducted among fighters (survey among 170 mma fighters) : GSP #1
https://theathletic.com/1856943/2020/06/05/fighters-vote-mma-goat-pound-for-pound-best/

Sherdog's all time goat poll : GSP #1
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/all-time-goat-poll.3916359/page-232#post-167971276
 
Khabib is the greatest of all time without a doubt!
After seeing Islam against Charles, I thought Chales would never stand against him for 2 or 3 rounds max. the same with Tony or any former or future lightweight fighter!
 
So we’re just going to put 2 cheaters up there? C’mon man
 
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