Social Article: "How Conservative Policies and Rhetoric Kill People"

meh, didn't bother reading it. i am not even conservative but it seems reductive to just look at trends and draw conclusions instead of stringing the exact conservative policies that leads to such trends.

You know what's pretty reductive? To say its about usa when the op isn't and you didn't read it either..... but all good

I'm not Conservative either. I find the vitriol pointed at each side stupidity myself
 
They say that every fox news or ben shapiro video you watch is equivalent to smoking 3 packs of cigarettes!
 
A thread about right wing propaganda being bad.

Source: Thom Hartmann, a liberal propagandist worth millions

Wonderful stuff TS
 
A thread about right wing propaganda being bad.

Source: Thom Hartmann, a liberal propagandist worth millions

Wonderful stuff TS

So the supposed trends aren't real?

Not many conservatives in here seem to have argued that, they've just offered reasons for the fact those trends actually exist.
 
So the supposed trends aren't real?
Not many conservatives in here seem to have argued that, they've just offered reasons for the fact those trends actually exist

They are as real and as nuanced as the liberal propagandist wants it to be
 
They are as real and as nuanced as the liberal propagadist wants it to be

They're real, they might not be nuanced, but that's the nature of the discussion.
 
They're real - Thom Hartmann

Browse the thread.

I can tag conservatives who have found the same data, but that's not up to me to implicate them.
 
Browse the thread.

I can tag conservatives who have found the same data, but that's not up to me to implicate them.
Your thread is as compelling as if you had posted Prager U and or Charlie Kirk propaganda about how bad the liberal media is
 
Your thread is as compelling as if you had posted Prager U and or Charlie Kirk propaganda about how bad the liberal media is


Democratic areas saw greater improvements over the past two decades

Findings build on previous evidence that more liberal policies, laws, and regulations may be associated with better health outcomes


Americans living in counties that voted Democratic during presidential elections from 2000 to 2016 experienced larger decreases in death rates than residents of counties that voted for a Republican candidate, finds a study published by The BMJ today.

The results show that the gap in overall death rates between Democratic and Republican counties increased more than sixfold from 2001 to 2019, especially for white populations, and was driven mainly by deaths due to heart disease, cancer, chronic lung disease, unintentional injuries, and suicide.

The researchers suggest that this widening gap may reflect the influence of political environments on social, economic, and health policies.

Previous studies have shown that US counties that elect Republican candidates tend to experience worse health outcomes. However, recent trends in mortality differences for residents of Republican and Democratic counties are not known, nor are the conditions that might be driving those changes.

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I know the 'guess' was that it was mostly Democrats that were killing themselves because they 'couldn't cope', but that seems to be incorrect.

Vote Republican, you die earlier, whether it's George W or Barrack in the White House.

Anyone shocked now?

Anyone wondering if it might be down to the policies in those counties?

This isn't a biased source, if you're interested.

If you just want to say "No, that can't be true" and ignore it, you're still perfectly entitled to do that, but your reasons for doing so aren't really valid.
 
This isn't a biased source, if you're interested.
If you just want to say "No, that can't be true" and ignore it, you're still perfectly entitled to do that, but your reasons for doing so aren't really valid.
Thom Hartmann was the right man for the job apparently
 
Your thread is as compelling as if you had posted Prager U and or Charlie Kirk propaganda about how bad the liberal media is
This is like his thread about mass shootings where he blamed white people despite the fact that his very own source in his OP said otherwise. D'oh!
 

Want to die young? Immerse yourself in conservative media, and vote Republican. Seriously. We should have known, but, still, the science is shocking: When conservatives run governments, suicides and homicides go up; when liberals run governments, suicides and homicides go down.
We got the first clue back in 2002, when, in a 100-year longitudinal study published that year in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, Australian researchers found that the suicide rate in that country and the U.K. increased throughout the twentieth century whenever a Conservative government was in power and declined measurably when the Labour Party was in charge.
The BBC picked it up, under a headline that was unambiguous: “More Suicides Under Conservative Rule.” The piece read: “When the Conservatives ruled both state and federal governments, men were 17 percent more likely to commit suicide than when Labour was in power. Women were 40 percent more likely to kill themselves.”
Referencing the researchers’ work, the BBC concluded: “Overall, they say, the figures suggest that 35,000 people would not have died had the Conservatives not been in power, equivalent to one suicide for every day of the 20th century or two for every day that the Conservatives ruled.”
More recently, here in the United States, a 2014 study by Bandy X. Lee, Bruce E. Wexler, and James Gilligan published in the journal Aggression and Violent Behavior found pretty much the same outcomes for periods of Republican versus Democratic rule in our country.
Arguing that “violence is not random but a problem in public health and preventive medicine,” the researchers were blunt: “Suicide, homicide, and combined suicide/homicide rates from 1900 to 2010 were found to be associated with an increase under Republican presidents and a decrease under Democratic ones with statistical significance.”
On Thursday, I interviewed Lee. She was emphatic about their findings:
“My colleagues and I did a study about 10 years ago looking at the two different parties in the United States—not in terms of ideology or policies but purely in terms of violent death rates—and, astonishingly, we found that over a 110-year period, almost without exception, whenever there was a Republican president who was elected, the murder and suicide rates would double, and whenever there was a Democratic president elected, the murder and suicide rates would halve.”
She added that people don’t generally notice this because there’s a roughly two-year time lag between elections and the time the increases or decreases in suicide and homicide measurably set in.
And, she said, it wasn’t just the economic policies of the parties that was driving the violence; it was primarily how they talked about America and thus caused us to think about ourselves and each other: “Whenever Democrats are elected, we tend to do well, to prosper not only in terms of unemployment but also in terms of rising GDP, but [we] also see a change in violent death rates, so that showed that there was not just an ideological difference or a policy driven difference, but a difference based on whatever the party brings, whether it’s rhetoric or public perception. The party alone made the difference in violence rates.”
We’re apparently seeing that dynamic right now. Murder, suicide, and violent crime rates increased during the Trump presidency and began a rapid downward slide by the second year of President Joe Biden’s tenure.
As the Brennan Center for Justice noted seven weeks ago:
“In 2020, President Trump’s last year in office, murder rates climbed by nearly 30 percent and assault rates by more than 10 percent.…
“But since 2021, violent crime has started to fall. According to the FBI, as of 2022 violent crime rates had fallen by 4 percent and murder rates by roughly 7 percent since 2020. Preliminary data suggests those declines accelerated in 2023.”
If, as Dr. Lee suggests, a major factor is the kind of rhetoric that Democrats use (“we, us”) versus Republicans (“they, them”) then Trump’s constant rants about Americans from “shithole countries” and “murderers and rapists” from south of the border apparently drove some Americans into a homicidal or suicidal frenzy.
Republicans, after all, lean heavily on hate and fear as primary motivators to get people to the polls: Gays are coming for your kids, immigrants want to rape or kill your wife, Black people are stealing your job, and Democrats love to kill babies the minute they’re born.
When people are marinated in such rhetoric, it’s almost impossible not to end up drenched in fear, anger, and hate—the necessary precursors to violence and self-harm.
This isn’t new. Back in 1996, Virginia Tech’s Dr. L. David Roper did a single-year analysis of suicide rates in states that voted for Democratic President Bill Clinton versus states that went for Republican Senator Bob Dole. He found: “Democratic votes for the states had a 57% negative correlation with increasing [suicide rates] and the Republican votes had a 45% positive correlation. States with high suicide death rate vote much more Republican than Democratic and vice versa.”
Another study, published by the peer-reviewed, open-access journal Plos One in 2022, looked at the relationship between political policy and mortality rates between 1999 and 2019. They found strikingly similar statistics:

NBC News, reporting on the study, quoted Syracuse University sociology professor Dr. Jennifer Karas Montez, one of the study’s authors, who summarized the consequences of states putting Republicans or Democrats in charge of policy:
“This analysis points to another major player, and that’s state policymakers. Policymakers may not feel that they’re responsible for our health or think that they’re responsible for our health, but the reality is every decision that they make affects our health and our risk of dying prematurely.”

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Pretty fascinating stuff.

Easily debunked? Is it the truth? Data from Australia, the USA, and the UK all seem to suggest that conservative policy and rhetoric really does kill more people?

Far left fake news media. Wouldn't worry about it. Woke policies are actually destroying america.
 
Is this proof that libtards are mentally ill and kill themselves over elections? Is that how we should read this data?

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