Best journeyman in UFC history?

[Th3Sav4ge]

Who is the greatest journeyman in UFC history? Different people will have different criteria for the label of “journeyman” of course, so try to elaborate.

Also, which journeyman had the best moment?

cole miller

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Look at his career. It really is the definition of a journeyman. He is there based on some sort of name recognition. He might even get a "belt". He never defends or the promotion doesn't exist after that.

He's been a contender for years. Pretty much no one who gets a title shot is a journeyman.

 

[Substance Abuse]

elkins was a higher ranked and for much longer than dober lmao

Right now. Now. This moment. Someone in his situation currently would be a good example. Lol.

 

[OldBoy91]

If we are being literal with our definitions then journeymen don't stay in the UFC. They bounce around every available org there is and take just a few fights in each.

If we are going by the Sherdog definition of "fighter with mediocre record" then there are lots of guys that fit that bill.

Sherdog calls Michael Bisping a journeyman ffs. A literal world champion with a 30-9 record who has 20 wins in the UFC.

 

[NoSmilez]

Anthony Smith was a journeyman before the UFC. Has arguably mixed success since coming over and likely stays afloat due to the lack of light heavyweight talent at the moment.

That is the issue. He had a journeyman type career but he broke through by getting a title shot and staying in the UFC. It's the same thing with Jorge. He might have had a journeyman like or a failed contender career early on but it isn't the case anymore.

Journeyman title is more suited for guys like Jesse Taylor. I think he fought in the UFC and pretty much every major promotion at least one time.

 

[Liverkick-king56]

Artem Lobov? Dude was willing to fight for $20 so I’d assume by definition of journeyman he’s journeyed through quite a bit of promotions

 

[SaltedVinegarfootstomps]

The answer must be Chris Lytle or Platinum Mike Perry.

You could make a case for Julian Erosa, too. A far lesser journeyman that comes to mind is the legendary Sean Salmon.

 

[sadoquera]

There's no real journeymen in the UFC, journeymen exist to pad prospects records and would get cut after their first three fights. If you mentioned names of anyone who's ever been ranked or had a title fight then you have no clue what a journeyman is. Furthermore, journeymen who do have 'good moments' are ruining their own future career. The point of being a journeymen is to lose and give your opponents rounds without getting hurt so you can fight again soon.

This is the definition of a can.

not a journeyman.

journeyman needs to be around for a while, has fight in different organizations, has an incosistent record, that we cannot presume the outcome of his next fight, but still is a recognizable name and can still poses a threat in the rankings according to the moment of the fight and the styles. ed herman, mr smile are one of those, nikita krylov until 2 fitghts ago.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Jim Miller

 

[Diktaattori]

Jeff Monson.

 

[haj02]

This is the definition of a can.

not a journeyman.

journeyman needs to be around for a while, has fight in different organizations, has an incosistent record, that we cannot presume the outcome of his next fight, but still is a recognizable name and can still poses a threat in the rankings according to the moment of the fight and the styles. ed herman, mr smile are one of those, nikita krylov until 2 fitghts ago.

This article will help you to understand what a journeyman is a little bit more: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/b...ts-defeats-few-pints-boxing-lewis-van-poetsch.

 

[NoSmilez]

He's been a contender for years. Pretty much no one who gets a title shot is a journeyman.

You are mistaken for what a journeyman is. That is why I say the definition doesn't really apply to the UFC. It is a term used for boxing for guys who jump from promoter to promoter and different managers. They just fight whoever is in front of them. They will usually lose but journeyman boxers have won titles in boxing before.

 

[Henatch]

Drew Fickett

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

Duster Porier

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

You are mistaken for what a journeyman is. That is why I say the definition doesn't really apply to the UFC. It is a term used for boxing for guys who jump from promoter to promoter and different managers. They just fight whoever is in front of them. They will usually lose but journeyman boxers have won titles in boxing before.

No, I think you are. MMA isn't boxing, and Smith isn't a journeyman

 

[NoSmilez]

This article will help you to understand what a journeyman is a little bit more: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/b...ts-defeats-few-pints-boxing-lewis-van-poetsch.

I think you are both are right. There are different levels of a journeyman. They don't have to be all tomato cans. The guy in your article is a tomato can but you can be nice and call him a journeyman. Someone like Jeremy Horn is a dangerous journeyman vs someone like Thomas Denny.

 

[Exarch01]

Paul Buentello.

 

[NoSmilez]

No, I think you are. MMA isn't boxing, and Smith isn't a journeyman

You are using a term from boxing. You don't understand it.

Anthony Smith did have a journeyman like career before his second stint in the UFC.

 

[Cobra 03]

Is Nick Diaz a journeyman? He has fought in a lot of different promotions.

 

[Area809]

That is the issue. He had a journeyman type career but he broke through by getting a title shot and staying in the UFC. It's the same thing with Jorge. He might have had a journeyman like or a failed contender career early on but it isn't the case anymore.

Journeyman title is more suited for guys like Jesse Taylor. I think he fought in the UFC and pretty much every major promotion at least one time.

It's all relative to the competition. The LHW division sucks these days. He benefits from the lack of depth in talent and even then, can't manage to have any real consistency. He loses against anyone who is good or even just somewhat good in some cases.