Economy Democrats have done a demonstrably superior job, during the same period, of managing the economy.

[So Fresh]

The 07/08 financial crisis didn't seem to negatively affect states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, Virginia, North Dakota, and Iowa which have the lowest per capita homeless rates. These states have alternated Governor party rule in the past 3 decades or so. Meanwhile, DC, New York, California, and Oregon have the highest per capita homeless rates and all but California have been true Blue Dem in Governor elections for three or so decades.

If Dems can't fix city level issues and / or state level issues of job availability, drug programs that work, effective law enforcement, and overseeing a housing market that meets the needs of the population at a state or city level why would anyone think the party as a whole has solutions to greater problems?

I'm not a Republican. I think Bill Clinton did some good things. I also realize Dem and Republican led Congress were at play during his tenure. This quoted article from the OP doesn't tell the whole story and living near Democrat controlled cities has shown me that single parties are never the answer. I'm within driving distance of DC and pass Baltimore every time I visit family in PA.

I don’t think it works that way. Local politics is wayyy different that federal or for the whole country

 

[bobgeese]

Well maybe if you would be more specific, like quote an article, research, link some website or whatever instead of this lazy blurting out blank statements I would.

It's not my responsibility to give you a history lesson.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

That was sarcastic.

anyway, it’s not reallly about the situation now. It’s too early to judge, who knows what happens the next few years. And inflation was kind of inevitable. Even if Biden totally fucks up, dems would still have a better economic track record.

Fair enough
And you might be right, especially if you don't count the current President. Bill Clinton (D) was a great President , one of our best Presidents ever. Carter (D) was better than he gets credit for. Our current President seems like he is mad at America or something.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Do you really believe that would make a significant difference???

It's far too late unfortunately. China is our drug dealer. Until we can break our addiction to insanely cheaply made shit, we are done for. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think people realize that even on the component level, we are dependent on China.

Imagine if 30-40 years ago we focused on forward looking manufacturing, rather than shipping jobs overseas.

"Addiction to insanely cheaply made shit" is a funny way to describe a preference for higher living standards.

And keeping China in poverty is not actually a humane goal, nor is it one that would benefit us in any way. In the modern world, trade is positive-sum.

 

[So Fresh]

It's not my responsibility to give you a history lesson.

Then why are you commenting on me and expecting I’m gonna do your work for you? Lol

normally the one who makes the claim has to prove it.. but then again this is the WR, I should lower my expectations.

 

[bobgeese]

"Addition to insanely cheaply made shit" is a funny way to describe a preference for higher living standards.

And keeping China in poverty is not actually a humane goal, nor is it one that would benefit us in any way. In the modern world, trade is positive-sum.

Addiction, not addition.

Furthermore, it's not competition when I can buy something from China for less than the cost of the parts to build it myself. I couldn't even come close. We've built a monster.


It's not about keeping China in poverty. Lifting China up, is the responsibility of China. Instead, we've relegated a portion of our society to poverty, rather than building up our own country.

 

[bobgeese]

Then why are you commenting on me and expecting I’m gonna do your work for you? Lol

normally the one who makes the claim has to prove it.. but then again this is the WR, I should lower my expectations.

You made the claim with the OP you absolute brainlet.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Addiction, not addition.

Furthermore, it's not competition when I can buy something from China for less than the cost of the parts to build it myself. I couldn't even come close. We've built a monster.

It's not about keeping China in poverty. Lifting China up, is the responsibility of China. Instead, we've relegated a portion of our society to poverty, rather than building up our own country.

Yeah, corrected the typo. Thanks.

Yeah, we're not competing with China on labor costs, and we'd be idiots to want to try to. As economies develop, they lose that edge, which is good for them. Trading with them is mutually beneficial, and the richer they get, the more we benefit from that trading. The issue is that because they have a much bigger population, it's easy for them to get a bigger total economy size, which gives them a lot more weight when it comes to setting the rules for international trade. We could have countered that impact by coordinating with a lot of other nations, and we should also try to grow our economy and get immigrants (especially high-skilled ones). No portion of our people are relegated to poverty as a result of trade. That's absurd.

Just ignore them, they are still in their feelings because of a thread I made which flew completely over their head and couldn’t understand the topic at hand which caused a few dubs and bans because they couldn’t behave. It’s been 2 weeks now and they are still hassling me about it lol. They have actually become the thing they despised the most. Cancel culture enthousiasts.

It's not just about you, though. As the WR has become more skewed, you have less of a culture of actually thinking and more just reflexive dismissal of anything that doesn't fit the GOP narrative. That's not good for anyone.

 

[Rod1]

You're grasping at straws. Your point has nothing to do with the thread. We're talking about historical decisions made by parties and how they effected our economy.

Eh grasping at straws? man the TPP goal to set the US led economic bloc in the Pacific as the standard.

Im sorry it doesn't fits your narrative.

 

[So Fresh]

You made the claim with the OP you absolute brainlet.

And I showed you sources didn’t I? You then made your own claim which YOU will have to proof with your own evidence, that’s how a discussion works lol.

If I claim something and back it up with proof then why should I prove YOUR claim that my claim isn’t true??

 

[M3t4tr0n]

That would barely nudge the trajectory of China's ascent.

That's the whole point of my post. Joe Biden, a prominent democrat is one of the biggest players responsible for the situation we're in today. To turn around and say "Democrats handled the economy better" while our country is in free fall off a cliff, is what you'd expect from a garbage tier article like in the OP.

We should be kissing Chinas ass so they don't invade Taiwan

 

[ElKarlo]

"Neoliberal"? JFC now SD right wingers are talking like commies?

That is not a real response. Dude you have really lost most of your quality as a poster here.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Fair enough
And you might be right, especially if you don't count the current President. Bill Clinton (D) was a great President , one of our best Presidents ever. Carter (D) was better than he gets credit for. Our current President seems like he is mad at America or something.

Real GDP growth in Biden's only year was 5.7%. No president has seen GDP growth averaging that high since FDR. Unlikely to last at that level, but he is likely to see extremely high average growth throughout his term.

 

[StoneColdSteveAustin]

I think they were about those things. The party has changed. So has the Democrats. Heck, the Democrats used to be the party of the working man, now they are the party for those who don't work.

This is just more misinformation. Most people on some type of gov assistance are the working poor.

 

[Jack V Savage]

And I showed you sources didn’t I? You then made your own claim which YOU will have to proof with your own evidence, that’s how a discussion works lol.

If I claim something and back it up with proof then why should I prove YOUR claim that my claim isn’t true??

The basic problem here is a total lack of curiosity about reality. People see a headline that seems unfavorable to their party and they react with no actual thought. It's not even like people see the facts, think, "that can't be right," and then look them up. Anyone whose mind works that way would already know the truth.

 

[Rod1]

That is not a real response. Dude you have really lost most of your quality as a poster here.

Dude when someone throws the "neoliberal" tag around as if it meant something you already know the person in question is either a moron or ignorant of the subject in question.

Neoliberalism is a boogeyman invented by socialists once the bourgeois epithet became tiresome.

 

[bobgeese]

We should be kissing Chinas ass so they don't invade Taiwan

Solid rebuttal of my argument.

 

[bobgeese]

And I showed you sources didn’t I? You then made your own claim which YOU will have to proof with your own evidence, that’s how a discussion works lol.

If I claim something and back it up with proof then why should I prove YOUR claim that my claim isn’t true??

Exactly what "proof" do you need? China is on a trajectory to overtake us (with the exception of super advanced technology), and Biden is well known as one of the main players responsible for it.

The only people who don't know this are brainlets.

 

[bobgeese]

Eh grasping at straws?

Yes.


It has very little to do with the topic at hand and would have minimal impact compared to past actions.

 

[Rod1]

Yes.


It has very little to do with the topic at hand and would have minimal impact compared to past actions.

Past? as in when Biden wasn't president?