He was popped for trace amounts of the M3 metabolite after weigh-in with no other results indicating use using tests that allowed detection at a much lower level. Those are identical circumstances.
Yes, but he probably did, and he WAS ALREADY PUNISHED FOR IT. The reason why I say "probably" is because this is now an issue in MLB, with players who couldn't understand how they tested positive for something they never even heard of before.
Wrong. There was no weigh-in or even fight scheduled (afaik) when he popped in August 2018.
Wait, are we moving on from your indignant and repeated denials that you never said he passed all his tests in 2017 except the one on July 28? First you can acknowledge that you did indeed say that, then we can move on.
holy shit. you're fuckin done here. it's a FACT that he passed all his tests in 2017 except the one on july 28th. and i never suggested anything different. ever.
It is possible that testing is currently beating masking, until masking catches back up.
I actually did a cursory breakdown about 30 pages ago:
Needless to say, the UFC holds a significant amount of possible leverage over USADA.
Jones got a 4 year suspension reduced to 15 months, retroactively, and wasn't tested by USADA during most of that retroactive suspension, all because he snitched (yet who or what Jones snitched on was never made public); to put this in perspective, Jones' punishment was more lenient than what an athletic commission would've given him.
Nice find, added it.Well I don't think 16-Oxo-dhcmt Metabolite II was even screened for at the time or if it is even screened for now. It's not listed in the new metabolites added for 2013. Maybe it's an old metabolite.........if so it's a pretty poor indicator if it only caught one person.
Here is a paper from 2014 talking about the statistics from the Cologne Lab.
https://www.doping.nl/media/kb/7379/Geyer et al 2014.pdf
@acannxr I think you should add this to the OP to challenge the ridiculous line of reasoning "there were no short term metabolites so he is therefore innocent". As shown above short term metabolites are nearly useless in detecting DHCMT use; Including three new long term metabolites in the screening resulted in an 82 fold increase in detecting DHCMT amongst routine doping samples at the Cologne Lab.
@Captain Herb
Yes.
again, you continue to act as if only 1 new metabolite was introduced in 2013......Well I don't think 16-Oxo-dhcmt Metabolite II was even screened for at the time or if it is even screened for now. It's not listed in the new metabolites added for 2013. Maybe it's an old metabolite.........if so it's a pretty poor indicator if it only caught one person.
Here is a paper from 2014 talking about the statistics from the Cologne Lab.
https://www.doping.nl/media/kb/7379/Geyer et al 2014.pdf
@acannxr I think you should add this to the OP to challenge the ridiculous line of reasoning "there were no short term metabolites so he is therefore innocent". As shown above short term metabolites are nearly useless in detecting DHCMT use; Including three new long term metabolites in the screening resulted in an 82 fold increase in detecting DHCMT amongst routine doping samples at the Cologne Lab.
Why not?
So what is your guess?
I asked you a question you refuse to answer…….
I wouldn't be surprised if he's been delaying arbitration, but I still think it's more likely that he was actually planning on moving up to heavyweight...until Ngannou dominated Miocic, then he used money as a scapegoat to back out.
Usada publishes all arbitration agreements when they are complete. Everyone would look pretty dumb if this happens. He’s still one of the most tested fighters in 2021 and arbitrations don’t take this long.
Na, I'm saying why can't you say he tested negative for a year--or didn't test positive--if you prefer?
