Excite or Exit: Abrupt Termination of Elias Theodorou Sparks Debate

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Decisions, Decisions, Decisions... UFC Decides to Cut Canadian After Boo-Boo in Canada

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Elias Theodorou
won “The Ultimate Fighter: Nations” in April 2014 and went 8-3 during his UFC tenure, including only one loss in his past four fights. He’s also been a popular figure with how he carries himself on social media. Then again, despite the UFC wins Theodorou has tallied, he’s never carried a reputation for excitement. Nine of his 11 bouts have gone to decision, with him winning five.


So what are we to make of the UFC releasing a successful – if boring – fighter like Theodorou? MMA Junkie’s John Morgan, Fernanda Prates and Ben Fowlkes sound off in this edition of “Triple Take.”

John Morgan: His win-loss record is admirable, but performances speak for themselves

"Listen, I’ll never sit here and argue any fighter SHOULD be cut. That would just be downright mean considering you’re essentially calling for someone to lose their primary source of income. That said, I guess I just don’t find this move by the UFC particularly shocking."

Elias Theodorou’s track record in terms of wins and losses was certainly admirable. His penchant for earning those results in even remotely entertaining fashion wasn’t.

Take, for instance, MMA Junkie columnist Ben Fowlkes’ own takeaway from Theodorou’s final UFC performance. In laying out praise for Derek Brunson’s patient approach to fighting the awkward Canadian middleweight, Ben describes precisely why Theodorou was terminated.

"For an abundantly aggressive and not terribly patient fighter like Brunson, Elias Theodorou presented an interesting test. Theodorou won’t stand there and brawl. He won’t stand there at all. If you want to get your hands on him, you have to go looking for him. If you get careless in the process, he can make you pay."

The idea that Theodorou can “make you pay” is, I guess, somewhat subjective. His final eight UFC fights all went the distance, so he wasn’t exactly punishing those careless offenders.

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But let’s just say you don’t trust Ben’s evaluation of the fight; take Steven Marrocco’s, instead.

"It’s not easy to short circuit the frustratingly elusive Canadian. But Brunson proved again it could be done with solid wrestling chops and patient counters. Theodorou is an original in a sport full of cardboard cutouts. He makes his herky-jerky style work against opponents who look like they should clobber him. But if he wants to beat guys like Brunson, he’ll need to come up with a better strategy. Being eccentric will keep you around. But eventually you have to be effective."

As you can see, the evaluations of Theodorou’s performances weren’t exactly positive, and even more unfortunately, it wasn’t as if this was a one-time thing. It had become a pattern for Theodorou, and I imagine the final straw for UFC officials had to be hearing the Canadian showered with boos in his home country at UFC Ottawa.

It’s no secret that MMA is not a sport based simply on wins and losses. It’s about entertainment, as well. And with that in mind, I’ll ask anyone bemoaning Theodorou’s release to tell me, please, what fight they were just itching to see him in next? What was the dream Theodorou matchup that you feel you’re now losing forever, the one that would headline a UFC event and be a surefire “Fight of the Night” affair?

I imagine Theodorou, himself, wasn’t even terribly surprised this would one day be his fate, even if he didn’t expect it at this exact time [3 weeks after co-maining a UFC event].

-MMAJunkie
 
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If you chose to fight a fight like he does...why even bother fighting...

It seemed to me he was just collecting paychecks and get some pussy....nothing wrong with pussy
 
Less dead weight means more pay for fighters who actually come to fight. I'm good with him being cut.
 
He fights like a little brother scared to get hit by his big brother.
That said, I'd love to see him fight some legit top 10 MWs to hopefully see him get sparked in epic fashion, Romero would have been interesting.
 
Losing while being super boring is certainly a fast way to get fired from the UFC
 
Glad he’s gone, but imagine if women fighters were held to this same standard. There’d be about 4 on the roster
 
This really isn't a debate

Fair or not, fighters know the precedent and they know what their employer values. ANd we all know that's not just winning.

They make a cost/benefit decision when they pick how to fight - in a way that maximizes winning, in a way that maximizes excitement and everything in between, not to mention how they portray themselves to the fanbase (aka how marketable they are).

Elias made the decision to fight in a way that maximizes his in cage chance of winning. Its unfortunate for him that he's not athletic, talented, skilled, or dynamic enough that that style is interesting or exciting or marketable. But he choose to fight like that. He could have been a brawler and rolled the dice, but he didn't. He fought like a boring fighter, and the UFC has no interest in investing time or resources in him. That's perfectly fair.
 
I always try to be fair to the UFC as a company.

In the mma world, Elias belongs in the UFC on merit. There can be no doubt. 8-3 is 8-3. He also won a few more on TUF and was undefeated outside the UFC.

But then there's the company. I can't blame them for not wanting Elias. With success comes bigger fights on a bigger stage. He was given a tremendous opportunity in his last fight, and he gave us an embarrassing performance. My point is: they don't want him to succeed anyway. What is the end game: To one day promote a five-round shitfest on ppv?
 
If someone is tuning in to UFC for the first time and sees Theodorou "fighting" they wouldn't watch it again.
 
Elias fighting style is so boring and annoying but Morgan is such a UFC shill , they both suck IMO
 
I imagine Theodorou, himself, wasn’t even terribly surprised this would one day be his fate, even if he didn’t expect it at this exact time [3 weeks after co-maining a UFC event].

-MMAJunkie

I think OP and MMAJunkie lives in an ulturnative reality. Oh wait, I just realized they might be on drugs.
 
Is there a debate here? Fitch was still on of the top WW's before he was cut and I agreed with that decision. Why keep a middle tier guy who puts on a snooze fest? At least Fitch was able to implement his boring style on good fighters.
 
Hey, there's actually a HL vid of Elias... and is looks as if he's SORTA exciting too! Oscar for camera work!

 
Dude literally looked like the Borat of MMA in his fight against Derrek Brunson. If MMA competition only based sport, then he should not be cut. However, MMA is more entertainment than competition (just for the sake of competition), so it what it is.
 
It’s the entertainment business not a sport. If you’re boring you’ll get cut at the first opportunity.
 
The fact is he lost. The UFC doesn’t need any excuses beyond that. If Elias had put in a little more effort, he probably would not have lost that fight. It was on Canadian soil afterall.

His record is good. His fights are not. And it doesn’t matter what I think. The UFC doesn’t ask me for permission on roster changes. So it’s a completely dead issue.

He can change his style, and work his way back, or not. I’m done thinking and talking about it. Depending where he goes, I’ll probably see his next fight. We can talk more then. But this issue has been talked about enough.

This isn’t like the DJ situation. Elias is not a GOAT. He’s a journeyman that got cut for boring the shit out of ppl.
 

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