Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread Vol. 2

I got fooled both ways haha. I will be the first one to admit it.
Oh I'm sure I did, I don't particularly remember what or why, specifically but undoubtedly I did hah.
 
@mon

Don’t think history will be kind to Daniel Andrews




He is a fucking dog worm pos, like all the premiers and more so the labour one(Australias democrats)

Every day more people waking up, we'll see going forward how their lives end up.
 
You think I'm reading all that shit? Zero chance.
The "discussion" you honkers want can be summed up as basically "mistakes where made on both sides" or "they/we did their/our best"


My stance is that this was and is an attack and you're part of it whether by ignorance or complicity. Your reasoning? You knows whats actually in another person's head but your suddenly reappearing is most likely to be your emotional issues (to me anyway, consider some professional help for your unresolved anger/guilt/loss)


Oi.... leave his private life out of it mate. You had a rightful crack at fingers for doing that shit.

Don't use what he has chosen to share as some sort of ammunition while posters like you and me remain completely anonymous and would never share details such as employment history where we worked. Awards we received when we worked there etc... yet you ask him for them and dismiss him when he ( rightfully) didn't provide.

Jfc man
 
Oi.... leave his private life out of it mate. You had a rightful crack at fingers for doing that shit.

Don't use what he has chosen to share as some sort of ammunition while posters like you and me remain completely anonymous and would never share details such as employment history where we worked. Awards we received when we worked there etc... yet you ask him for them and dismiss him when he ( rightfully) didn't provide.

Jfc man


I actually respect you Tibs, don't know why or know you but I do.
In saying that I'm a little disappointed that you think it was stated in malice because it wasn't, there was caring in my heart when I wrote it not harm. I told him the first time he'd take it the wrong way(he did) and if he's smart he'd reflect on it.

If I wanted to attack truat me I would because there were implications in his initial post that were grubby as fuck. I left them alone for the reasoning you bring up. But doing the right thing isn't leaving everything unaddressed and when people are in a bubble of pain they don't necessarily see clearly.


Point taken though and for the respect I have for you I'll ignore him from now on.
 
Victoria was one of the worst for police brutality and excesses. They have always had a reputation of shooting first and killing people. By always I mean I as long as I can remember.

They have the best wages in Australia because of the relationship between the union and the labor government. This creates a very comfortable life and thats how so many got caught, they didn't want to risk moving their fat arse off the lounge and away from the TV.














Thanks, very nice find. That'll go in the collection of share to anyone medically trained.







Fyi, fucking top Aussie. Does exceptional work and has a very strong background in the pharmaceutical industry.


"Eminent Dutch Molecular Biologist and Cancer Researcher Dr. Maarten Fornerod Alarmed and Surprised by Post-Vaccine Cancer Spike, Urges Halt on Vaccinations!
"...And there are a lot of them, which are becoming more and more. They also appear in the literature that there are cancers that accelerate after the messenger RNA booster.""





Of course "turbo cancer" isn't real, just ask all the people complicit in the largest crimes against humanity the world has ever seen. The same people that would likely be held to account if it was real, lol they're trustworthy this time.


"Following a deeply concerning Japanese peer-reviewed paper (above) indicating a spike in cancer mortality following the administration of the third mRNA booster, Dr. Fornerod candidly shared his apprehensions: "...And there are a lot of them, which are becoming more and more. They also appear in the literature that there are cancers that accelerate after the messenger RNA booster. So, I think it's quite clear that it occurs..."

Dr. Fornerod's observation, "…you see the increased cancer mortality in Japan…" and "…there are still many indications that specifically these mRNA vaccines could be carcinogenic…," indeed, highlights critical concerns.

Just this week, on April 15, 2024, eminent oncologist and Associate Dean from Brown University, Dr. Wafik El-Deiry, released his preprint illustrating how the spike protein inhibits the p53 gene in our bodies."






Did you notice how quickly the honkers left?

Imagine pushing as hard as they all did to inject the world with a gene therapy of unknown ramifications, both in the present, future and generationally?
Yet they cannot and will not answer the simple question of how many, because here is no rational explanation for their lack of commitment. None.

The timing question would be icing on the cake because it would enable me to break down the whens. The pet smurf fucked up when he said his because he had three ending in the bivalent yet iirc the bivalent was the fourth shot in the USA, shilling hard but skipped the official recommendation.....





"Dr. El-Deiry is considered on of the most prominent leading figureheads in P53 gene. His work in p53 gene goes all the way back to 1992. Dr. El-Deiry found out how the p53 protein, which helps prevent tumors, attaches to our DNA. This important finding, shared in the journal Nature Genetics in 1992, has helped us understand which genes are directly influenced by p53 to stop cancer growth. He also discovered a gene named p21, which p53 affects. p21 acts like a brake in our cells, slowing down their division, especially when they're under stress.

What did Dr. El-Deiry discover? Essentially, he uncovered that the spike protein blocks the p53 gene's function. Does this imply that everyone will develop cancer? Not necessarily. However, without the protective action of the p53 gene, the likelihood of cancer rises significantly, especially in those with more DNA damage. What if the spike protein continues to be produced non-stop? One can only imagine!"


245 days later.......






The truely fucked thing is this is just one path to turbo cancer, just one.

"What did Dr. El-Deiry discover? Essentially, he uncovered that the spike protein blocks the p53 gene's function. Does this imply that everyone will develop cancer? Not necessarily. However, without the protective action of the p53 gene, the likelihood of cancer rises significantly, especially in those with more DNA damage. What if the spike protein continues to be produced non-stop? One can only imagine!"











@Maximus

You think I'm reading all that shit? Zero chance.
The "discussion" you honkers want can be summed up as basically "mistakes where made on both sides" or "they/we did their/our best"


My stance is that this was and is an attack and you're part of it whether by ignorance or complicity. Your reasoning? You knows whats actually in another person's head but your suddenly reappearing is most likely to be your emotional issues (to me anyway, consider some professional help for your unresolved anger/guilt/loss)

If you won't read 5 paragraphs it's very clear you don't read the substack rants you keep posting up. That's my entire issue and why I keep pointing out how crap they are. You post things without reading them and they have no sources if they even address anything of what they claim. The issue is they don't, but instead of accepting that you attack people personally.

You addressed things to me specifically and when I responded you don't even want to read the post. It's like people blocking comments on a social media post after talking shit to someone.

I said I popped back in after covid. I explained why I originally left. You keep tagging me or posting things to me. I haven't addressed any of the random articles you have posted for ages now only when you direct things at me. Stop making up some fantasy story all the posts from you are there.

I would post to more people in this thread if I could actually see their posts without having to go through your substack spam. It feels like that elderly relative who just got a facebook account and clogs up your newsfeed with random spam. Other posters have put stuff up and I have responded, I just have to get past the 16 posts about Glenda's cat and her holiday before I can see anyone elses posts.
 
Oh I'm sure I did, I don't particularly remember what or why, specifically but undoubtedly I did hah.
Haha I still get fooled when I waste my time arguing in this thread everyday.

I legit thought the vaccine was terrible to start with and that was before I had it. I was the same on lockdowns until I realised how we got where we did.

Now I put it down to the individual. Like most things we had a bunch of idiots not isolate with covid, try on bullshit exemptions and get violent at protests and ruin it for everyone else.
Unfortunately the majority who could use common sense, had it ruined by idiots and the government did what they do best and used the most extreme measure and easiest measure.
Because of them we got borders, lockdowns, vaccines and no exemptions. The minority screwed it for the majority.
 
Oi.... leave his private life out of it mate. You had a rightful crack at fingers for doing that shit.

Don't use what he has chosen to share as some sort of ammunition while posters like you and me remain completely anonymous and would never share details such as employment history where we worked. Awards we received when we worked there etc... yet you ask him for them and dismiss him when he ( rightfully) didn't provide.

Jfc man
Cheers but don't stress about it mate. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I have only ever shared what i am willing to share, because I made a choice to do that.
 
I actually respect you Tibs, don't know why or know you but I do.
In saying that I'm a little disappointed that you think it was stated in malice because it wasn't, there was caring in my heart when I wrote it not harm. I told him the first time he'd take it the wrong way(he did) and if he's smart he'd reflect on it.

If I wanted to attack truat me I would because there were implications in his initial post that were grubby as fuck. I left them alone for the reasoning you bring up. But doing the right thing isn't leaving everything unaddressed and when people are in a bubble of pain they don't necessarily see clearly.


Point taken though and for the respect I have for you I'll ignore him from now on.

What did I take the wrong way? I have no issues at all discussing what I have shared in this thread at any point. I only share what I am willing to because it anecdotally supports my position on things and with research I have done supports my position I ended up on. You keep making upo stories about what I have said and confusing me with other posters for some reason.

Don't try and bullshit about your opinion of me and not posting in a malicious way, I don't mind if you attack me at all, but I will call you out on it and the fact it only occurs when you can't defend your posts. It doesn't bother me mate. You can say whatever you want about what I have shared. I am not upset, hurt or any of that. You are just the most prolific poster in this thread. If more people posted and want to go back and forth I am happy to like what I have recently. The main difference is they disagree with my opinion but can see the logic behind it so it doesn't turn into protracted personal attacks.
 
I actually respect you Tibs, don't know why or know you but I do.
In saying that I'm a little disappointed that you think it was stated in malice because it wasn't, there was caring in my heart when I wrote it not harm. I told him the first time he'd take it the wrong way(he did) and if he's smart he'd reflect on it.

If I wanted to attack truat me I would because there were implications in his initial post that were grubby as fuck. I left them alone for the reasoning you bring up. But doing the right thing isn't leaving everything unaddressed and when people are in a bubble of pain they don't necessarily see clearly.


Point taken though and for the respect I have for you I'll ignore him from now on.

You both honestly want nothing more than the best for people. So I respect both of yas , Your opinions differ is all ( as does mine ) but I've read enough of yas going back n forth to see ya just talking at walls. And when it's @ at point where you wont read his why the hell am I ? Hah.

Apologies to ya both. Continue on however ya want =)
 
You both honestly want nothing more than the best for people. So I respect both of yas , Your opinions differ is all ( as does mine ) but I've read enough of yas going back n forth to see ya just talking at walls. And when it's @ at point where you wont read his why the hell am I ? Hah.

Apologies to ya both. Continue on however ya want =)
Haha I usually just respond to people who tag me so don't even realise I have missed most of the thread posts. I had a long public transport commute recently which is why I have been pretty active, same with the days off for covid. It's kinda funny when you look back because I responded and ended up being the last 5 posts so now I am spamming. The new forum layout is a nightmare to address multiple posts on anything but a computer.
 
And so are the days of our lives. This ties in very closely with the co incidences in the video I shared where the planning was shown to be forward planned far before covid was a thing.

I cannot recommend this video enough, I've listened to it twice in part(+20m) and the third time the entire vid.
More so if you're American I cannot overstate how important the information is.






- Usually so not to creat great walls of text I'll give a headline or if a critical piece of information that as well. Obviously my opinions are the bonus package because I'm not just witty, moderately intelligent, hard working but also I have to admit my biggest attribute is my modesty.

BUT as I'm not that credentialed I prefer to argue with the opinions of my educational betters, hence the links.



"The Dashboard that Ruled the World
Global influence that took “just a few hours” to build"

"There are multiple events that happened in January 2020 that are, to put it mildly, peculiar. One of them is that only 23 days after China reported that they had found a few cases of an “unknown pneumonia” in the city of Wuhan, three people in Baltimore Maryland launched a dashboard that was designed to track the number of cases and deaths of this disease in every country in the world. All three were connected with the Department of Civil and Systems Engineering at John Hopkins University (JHU). In their own words, the dashboard “was developed to provide researchers, public health authorities, and the general public with a user-friendly tool to track the outbreak as it unfolds” [1]. Along with the dashboard they also maintained a public data repository of cases and deaths [2]."




- Like the faulty pcr tests and then the rat tests, billions on hand. Just another coincidentally of course like the pandemic trial run in 2019 that matched the Plandemic exactly.

"The January 22 launch happened so early on in the Covid timeline that the first WHO situation report had only been released the preceding day, and the term “Covid” had not even been coined yet. In that first WHO report it was announced that “282 confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV have been reported from four countries including China” [3]. Total cases outside of China were only four, and there had been zero deaths. In fact, only six deaths were officially linked to the virus by this date, and all of them were from Wuhan. For comparison purposes and to put things into perspective, the norovirus is estimated to infect 685 million people and cause 212,000 deaths every year [4]. We are not aware of a norovirus dashboard anywhere in the world. "




- Seems legit and not like an excuse at all OR a preplanned and funded preparation.....

"Odd as it might be that a team at JHU chose to create and launch a dashboard for an unnamed disease despite such low numbers of cases and deaths in so few countries, there are possible explanations for why they did so. Only 3 months earlier JHU had hosted Event 201, a “training tabletop exercise… based on a fictional scenario” of a novel coronavirus causing a global and deadly pandemic [5]. Furthermore, the lead author of the dashboard (Professor Lauren Gardner) is a specialist in modelling infectious diseases. Notwithstanding what these facts might suggest, the dashboard was, at least according to their own testimony, the result of a “spur-of-the-moment” decision and took “just a few hours” to build [6].







- Lol just a few hours yet
"Within two months of its launch, the website was reportedly being “accessed 1.2 billion times per day,” [10] or nearly half the traffic of the internet giant Google. Within two years it had been cited by medical researchers in more than 8,500 articles [11].

“The Hopkins dashboard has become a ubiquitous and trusted reference point, cited by U.S. federal agencies and major news sources” [12].

- Thats one fuck ton of traffic, hell of a load on an off the cuff and “spur-of-the-moment” bit of work.









- mmmm modelling, what could possibly go wrong. Of course there hasn't been any issues raised on data integrity either....


"Given how much influence the JHU dashboard exerted on the world during the Covid event, it is appropriate to examine it in some detail. In particular, we here discuss some of the difficulties of obtaining data in real-time, the sources they used to obtain that data, how they put data into their system, the language barriers involved in the process, and, finally, the role that computer simulations may or may not have played."










- Obviously facts can be inconvenient

"Obtaining Data in Real-time
Even with the help of modern computers, it typically takes many months (or even years) to produce reliable mortality data."
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"If it currently takes two or three years for a federally funded organisation such as StatsCan to publish mortality data, how was it possible for JHU to get Covid death data in real time?"

- How indeed. If there is one thing they can guarantee is that the data is definitely showing safe and effective



"It is equally challenging to produce statistics about one particular pathogen or virus. For instance, seven months after the 2017/2018 flu season had ended, the CDC in the US was still only providing estimates for cases and deaths."

- mmmm thats not going to sell a plandemic though. We need data like we needed chinese videos of collapsing asians, just toppling in the streets.








"If it takes months or years to obtain mortality and case data for the flu, how was it possible to obtain data for Covid in real time? If it was not possible to do this in 2019, how did it suddenly become possible to do it in 2020?"

-Obviously they "moved with the speed of science".........







"Likewise, the Human Mortality Database, which tracks mortality by country, is regularly ten years behind for many countries [15]. How then did JHU expect to be able to plot Covid deaths for every country in the world in real time? More crucially, how did they possibly update their dashboard “every 15 minutes”? [1, 16]"


- that speed of science really is speedy. Nothing else but hard work and dedication to the cause of scientific integrity.











"Data Sources for the JHU Dashboard
Good data depends on good sources, and the only way to understand how the JHU dashboard obtained their data in real time is to examine their sources"

- I have a sneaking suspicion that China will be needed because their attention to detail and integrity in politics, manufacturing, science and data is well recognised internationally.





"Of significance is that their sources changed over time. Initially, their primary data source was “DXY, an online platform run by members of the Chinese medical community, which aggregates local media and government reports to provide cumulative totals of COVID-19 cases in near real time at the province level in China and at the country level otherwise” [1]. This source, therefore, was a combination of news and government reports."

- nothing stands for truth and justice like the Chinese communist party. Book me in the the jab clinics I'll take them all.









- it's frustrating that I cannot underline etc. because when I could do so I didn't mind the massive wall of text I used to do. Now as I'm stuck with using space between paragraphs its a bit of a shambles.
Also no point, a person that would read the link will do so and posting the entire links content just detracts from the information but......

"Eventually the team at JHU felt that DXY was taking too long to obtain and publish data, so they branched out to include other sources: “To identify new cases, we monitor various Twitter feeds, online news services, and direct communication sent through the dashboard.” As health agencies around the world set up their own dashboards, JHU incorporated them into their list of sources [2].

JHU therefore acknowledged three primary sources of information other than official government websites:

-Twitter feeds
-online news services
-direct communication sent to the dashboard




- so it turns put that the CCP weren't able to manufacture the data quickly enough so they did what any reputable data collection would do they source stories from twitter, online news and their second cousins beat friends roommate.

"Scraping the internet for news stories about Covid certainly has the potential to speed up the process of collecting data. Unfortunately, and beside the above named problems, it also introduces the possibility of a noise-amplifying feedback loop.
**************After all, if “major news sources” were trusting JHU for accurate data, how could JHU be getting their data from (potentially) the same news sources?"***************



- how indeed and what could possibly go wrong.
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- a lot as it turns out but how could they have known about these potential problems when they knucked down for two hours and COINCIDENTALLY got this is place just in time......









- I'll leave John Hopkins because their dirty dealings alone in all this would take an entire thread but

"Worldometer as a Data source
JHU expressly mentions Worldometer as one of their sources [2]. Worldometer themselves confirm this fact, saying: “Our data is also trusted and used by… Johns Hopkins CSSE” [19]. In general, Worldometer uses computer simulations to report statistical information in “real-time.”

- mmmm computer simulations, what could possibly go wrong. They'll no doubt be as reliable and accurate as the modelling was....








- odd the world of meter uses prior history to guess the present and future numbers. Odd with a NOVEL coronavirus they could do these simulations. Obviously just another coincidence.

"Did Worldometer use computer calculations to determine Covid statistics in a manner similar to what they do for motor vehicle accidents? If they did (and because they could not know the yearly totals in advance), did they use epidemiological models rather than real deaths to estimate how many people were going to die that year from Covid? Neither question can be answered with certainty."











- It turns out they can type and confirm data with the speed of science as well.

"Inputting Data into the System
According to the Lancet article by Gardner et al, for the first ten days after the launch of the JHU dashboard, “all data collection and processing were done manually, and updates were typically done twice a day” [1]. From a logistical perspective this was doable since there were so few cases and only a few countries involved during this period of time.

Concerning accuracy of the data, they claimed that “efore manually updating the dashboard, we confirm the case numbers with regional and local health departments…as well as city-level and state-level health authorities.” It has already been established, however, that neither Canada nor the US could produce either mortality or influenza data within a six month time frame. How then did not only Canada and the US, but eventually every country in the world, provide daily case and death counts that JHU could use for verification?










- MMMMMM this sounds like the potential for a negative feedback loop

"In an attempt to answer this last question, the websites of Statistics Canada were examined to see how they obtained their Covid data. It was found that StatsCan did the same as the JHU team did, for they also used “web scraping techniques to gather relevant data from a variety of websites on COVID-19” [23].
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"The reply from StatsCan leaves one wondering if their information came from the JHU dashboard. Given how popular the JHU dashboard became, that it was expressly designed to enable health authorities to track the outbreak, that it was cited by US federal agencies, that it has been widely used by medical researchers, and that StatsCan scraped the web to obtain their data, it is quite likely that StatsCan did"







Amazing this speed of science, no corners cut, no stone left unturned, no one left behind....................
 
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"In view of this, there exists the very real possibility that JHU uploaded data to their dashboard, some countries used and published this information on their own websites, and then JHU confirmed their entries by comparing their numbers with those on official government websites. If this happened, it is circular reasoning at its finest. Unfortunately, there is no way to prove if this did or did not happen. Either way, it still leaves us wondering what sources JHU used for their data."


- This obviously could never happen because of the integrity that science stands for. Scientists don't work for money they work for the forfilment of the need for science.







- Mmmmm it turns out the speed of science inputting was limited to less then a couple of hundred inputs. One handed to because the other was needed for back patting

"Automatic Updates
Whatever the sources were, manual updates were soon terminated in favour of automation:

“The manual reporting process became unsustainable; therefore, on Feb 1st 2020, we adopted a semi-automated living data stream strategy.” [1]

The word “unsustainable” makes it sound like they were being swamped with Covid cases. The actual facts refute this. According to the WHO reports there were only 19 countries reporting cases on this day [24]. This might have involved 80 to 100 entries on the first of February. It is not at all clear how so few entries were considered unsustainable.










- I suspect these scientists will have an glowing career in climate change when this gets wrapped up.

"The Lancet article asserts that the manual updates were first confirmed with the appropriate health authority. Nothing whatsoever, on the other hand, is said about whether or not automated inputs were ever confirmed.

Furthermore, is it even possible to automate data collection across multiple websites from a growing list of countries, when every website uses different formats to display their data? "





- Odd isn't it. I cannot send my spreadsheets etc to my accountant because they're the wrong format but it all seemlessly just meshed together (speed of science?) We certainly got lucky or perhaps within the 3 hours or so they had managed to implement a manner to access all these disjointed formats.








- that google translate is a miracle for not creating miscommunication. It's like being a native to the country and understands all aspects of a language from naunces to sentence structure.

"Language Barriers
Two of the three people involved in designing the JHU dashboard were native to China, the third was American. This would have enabled them to read the Chinese reports published on the DXY website. But not every country in the world publishes data in either Chinese or English. The difficulties of extracting data from websites in foreign languages are significant even with automated translation tools. Automating this globally is almost inconceivable. Scraping the internet is nigh impossible when the websites being searched are in a language unknown to the researcher. Challenges of this sort are commonly experienced by anyone doing global research, and as a result researchers often confine themselves to countries that use a language known to them. How then did the JHU team do it?"









- Mmmmm modelling, what were they saying again. Millions a month dead? More stakes were made on both sides and it was years ago, get over it....

"Computer Modeling as the main source of data
The only answer that provides a rational explanation for all the questions asked thus far is that the JHU dashboard was based on computer simulations rather than observational data. It also appears that from time to time the JHU team obtained empirical data that was then used to adjust and “correct” the output from their models"










- Unfortunately the author seems to be stuck on such old fashioned terms as logic, reson and facts. All of which seem to confict with the narrative requirements of story

"The reasons why this is the most plausible answer is as follows:

Governments are not capable of providing data in real time

It is too difficult to extract data from news media sites in foreign languages

Dashboard entries were automated

There was no valid way to de-duplicate the data if obtained from news sources

The dashboard was updated on short intervals (15 minutes or hourly)

Sources include Worldometer, a site specialising in computer simulations

Sources also include “direct communication to the dashboard,” which could have involved data from a computer simulation

It is not known whether automated entries were confirmed in any way

The dashboard was designed to provide health authorities with data

Health authorities trusted the JHU data as accurate

The repository contains multiple data dumps to “correct” the data

The dashboard reported the first new cases in a country before anyone else did"


- it's certainly a hard argument to counter, IF you have a logical mindset were reasoning and cohesion are an integral part of the scientific method.
Luckily such methods are so yesterday and now we can go qith feelings, especially fear fear fear fear.








"Evidence for the use of Computer Modelling.
On 4 March 2024 I sent an email to Lauren Gardner (the lead author of the JHU dashboard project) asking whether or not computer models were used at any point for the dashboard, and whether the models were available. Unfortunately, no reply has been received to date. "
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"Not surprisingly, the evidence exists. For example, on 13 March 2020 Professor Lauren Gardner spoke at a congressional hearing on Capitol Hill to explain the dashboard. During the presentation she expressly mentioned “modelling efforts that we are doing behind the scenes” [10].

Furthermore, on the JHU website it says:

“Gardner is a specialist in modelling infectious disease risk, including COVID-19….Gardner leads COVID-19 modelling efforts in partnership with U.S. cities to develop customized models to estimate COVID-19 risk at the local level.” [28]"











- Nooooo, never. They would not use made up data from other made up data models that are all compounding and in a negative feedback loop.

- in other news, co incidentally and just in time.....

"It is also worth noting that in 2019 Gardner developed “a novel mathematical modeling framework” for estimating a viral outbreak, a model which was meant to be “calibrated using historical outbreak data” [29]."














- This is an excellent display of the most logical view.
All bullshit, worse yet bullshit that feeds itself and the soutces it feeds otself on with more made up bullshit.

"Therefore, based on the fact that Gardner is an expert in disease modelling, is accustomed to calibrating models with empirical data, was actively involved in developing models for Covid, has gone on record that her models are more accurate than officially reported numbers, and that her department considers modelling fundamental to approaching any problem, it should be taken for granted that computer models were being used as the underlying source of data."
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"Finally, an interesting Twitter thread was posted in November 2020 that provides evidence that Ensheng Dong (the undergraduate that built the dashboard) was uploading data to the JHU repository with data created by computer modelling [32]. (Although we regret that the significance of this thread escaped our attention for so long, we do acknowledge that discovery of it formed a significant part of the impetus for the research that led to this article.)"










- The speed of science for the win.












That'll do to make the points I reckon. In reality you don't need much more then to understand it's all pretend and that they prepared beforehand for this moment after the pretend plandemic.
ALL co incidences of course, to suggest otherwise will see you labelled as a conspiracy theorist or antivaxxer or perhaps even a climate denier (global WARMING was so yesterday)
 
You both honestly want nothing more than the best for people. So I respect both of yas , Your opinions differ is all ( as does mine ) but I've read enough of yas going back n forth to see ya just talking at walls. And when it's @ at point where you wont read his why the hell am I ? Hah.

Apologies to ya both. Continue on however ya want =)

If you have a fault to point out it's you see the best in people.


Also what does jfc mean?
 
Been a while since the honkers hace quoted one of the 3 letter agencies opinions on covid. Strange that, every rebuttal of theirs was usually backed by a quote from the cdc etc.

Those pestky conflicts of interests are getting harder and harder to overlook.





"NIH Refuses to Release Details of COVID-19 Vaccine Royalty Agreement
U.S. government agency claims it doesn’t have to disclose the information""
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"The U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) is refusing to release additional information about an agreement it reached over a COVID-19 vaccine that has earned it at least $400 million.

The NIH declined to provide any materials in response to a Freedom of Information Act request from The Epoch Times.

“The NIH withholds the entirety of the records as they are protected from release,” Gorka Garcia-Malene, an NIH officer, told The Epoch Times in a letter."





I don't know about anyone else but this certainly makes me feel the safe and effective message.

"“In this case, exemption 3 incorporates 35 U.S.C. 209 (f), which reads in relevant part, ‘No Federal agency shall grant any license under a patent or patent application on a federally owned invention unless the person requesting the license has supplied the agency with a plan for development or marketing of the invention, except that any such plan shall be treated by the Federal agency as commercial and financial information obtained from a person and privileged and confidential and not subject to disclosure under section 552 of title 5,’” Ms. Garcia-Malene wrote."




And of course

"“Exemption 4 protects from disclosure trade secrets and commercial or financial information that is privileged and confidential,” she added."






Just lol, safe and effective. Just ask the complicit.
 
You both honestly want nothing more than the best for people. So I respect both of yas , Your opinions differ is all ( as does mine ) but I've read enough of yas going back n forth to see ya just talking at walls. And when it's @ at point where you wont read his why the hell am I ? Hah.

Apologies to ya both. Continue on however ya want =)
Where did you end up in all this mate? You always put up good counterpoints and references back in the past?

I always find it interesting to see how peoples opinions evolved on it all. I think the consensus is lockdowns were stupid and people are happy the near useless masks are gone.

Most people I know aren't getting any more vaccines except for people that get yearly flu shots. I still haven't found a single person who was legit hurt by one (any worse than myself) but I do have some people with life changing consequences from covid sadly.

If I didn't come on this forum, I wouldn't even know it was a thing except for the occasional QR code in a shop window that never got taken down.
 
Just lol, safe and effective. Just ask the complicit.
Besides the hordes of posters we lost due to turbo cancer and myocarditis I'd say that you have been more harmed by covid than anyone else. Really seems like it has consumed you for multiple years now and it is alarming.
 
I remember the "are you an oncologist" this old professor was one of the oncologists I used as a rebuttal. Time goes on and the information continues to portray the potential for a disaster of all disasters.

What to do, a great wall of text where the message becomes a chore to read or the point....


"Prof.Angus Dalgleish: Massive Cancer Deaths Study Vindicates My Warnings Over COVID Boosters
"It is well over a year since I first published my concerns that my patients with melanoma were relapsing after several years of being in remission...they had all had a booster covid vaccine...""





The Cleveland study very clearly shows the censorship and how the summaries no longer need to mirror the data. After all you cannot get published without safe and effective and that sweat sweat cash and prestige won't supply itself(not that scientists care about such mundane matters)

"Despite several attempts to deny its conclusions and claim it has been misinterpreted, this Cleveland study indisputably shows a greater than threefold increase in covid infections in those who were boosted. A large-scale Israeli research study reported in the BMJ at the end of 2021 had already found a significantly increased risk of covid infection after the second vaccine dose. Its significance was ignored. Perversely, the authors concluded that this negative efficacy might warrant a third dose."







The Japanese are really starting to kick off and push against the agenda lately...

"However, last week an amazing paper from Japan was published. It was available on a pre-publication server last year but now it has been peer-reviewed and published in Cureus. Titled Increased age adjusted cancer mortality after the third mRNA lipid nanoparticle vaccine dose during the COVID pandemic in Japan, it is authored by Miki Gibo and colleagues. It is an enormous study and compares the full official statistics by annual and monthly age adjusted mortality rates (AMR) for the years 2020, 2021 and 2022 with regression analysis.












Anyway the information is there, IF you want to read. I feel like q woman with laryngitis without the ability to underline or highlight.
 
Besides the hordes of posters we lost due to turbo cancer and myocarditis I'd say that you have been more harmed by covid than anyone else. Really seems like it has consumed you for multiple years now and it is alarming.


I like to understand so the learning is its own reward for myself but tell that to the people I know that are the serious adverse reactions.

Some people care others don't, I except and sometines I'm envious but can't say I understand the how.
 
Where did you end up in all this mate? You always put up good counterpoints and references back in the past?

I always find it interesting to see how peoples opinions evolved on it all. I think the consensus is lockdowns were stupid and people are happy the near useless masks are gone.

Most people I know aren't getting any more vaccines except for people that get yearly flu shots. I still haven't found a single person who was legit hurt by one (any worse than myself) but I do have some people with life changing consequences from covid sadly.

If I didn't come on this forum, I wouldn't even know it was a thing except for the occasional QR code in a shop window that never got taken down.

I ended up pretty much in the same spot. Personally neither has affected any of my close ones. And I don't mean nobody got affected badly. I mean at all, no days off work no flues nothing. The nephews and neices apparently got it and it was a nothing burger. Unvaccinated/ vaccinated. Nothing's changed for either side healthwise.


But I still think there was far to much focus on control and profit. [ profit for those with $$ already ] bankruptcy for those without.

We threw away common sense. And people now wish to pretend it's not relevant now. It is. The same profiteering propaganda system is in place in the media / government/ pharmaceutical. There will undoubtedly another pandemic. Seems insane for people to happy and satisfied how this was handled myself.


Our goverment proved to me how utterly inept it was. Along with the who and media. Cdc etc etc I don't want those same profiteering pricks near the next one .


I think the youngest generations have been the most fucked over... and sadly the next decade will prove it.

Regarding the vaccine being " deadly " on a mass scale. Just like the covid fear. The numbers don't bare out the fear to me as yet. I have my own biases when I read about young men having strokes as I had one early 30's a long time before covid. So it just inherently doesn't stand out to me due to my own bias.

But I think they definitely lied and are complicit in unnecessary vaccination deaths to me as I believe the coercion [ employment travel threats etc ] undoubtedly fucked people who felt they had no choice but to comply. So even if it's 10 per 100k or whatever. I don't believe billions of people would have taken it without the fear and coercion pushed by the very same people being paid by those selling the damn product. So there's still complicity in any vaccine deaths imo.


Based on no data " it slows the spread " whilst the vaccinated could go around spreading it... petty and stupid shit like that still infuriates me. And I lost no ones final moments or special occasions. I completely understand peoples anger who did.




If people want to be vaccinated. Go for it. If they don't. So be it. It's been my stance the entire time.

I have mates who are furious they were forced to just to see a eh.. nothing burger 2 months later. Physically fine. Just mad they were forced

I think countless people have revisionist history especially in regards to actions taken and words spoken.


I think it's a topic that really should be spoken about far more... but it will in a few years when the kids maintain this rate of crime / mental health learning difficulties into adulthood.

But instead it ends up as ct.

Don't know if that answers anything honestly
 
I remember the "are you an oncologist" this old professor was one of the oncologists I used as a rebuttal. Time goes on and the information continues to portray the potential for a disaster of all disasters.

What to do, a great wall of text where the message becomes a chore to read or the point....


"Prof.Angus Dalgleish: Massive Cancer Deaths Study Vindicates My Warnings Over COVID Boosters
"It is well over a year since I first published my concerns that my patients with melanoma were relapsing after several years of being in remission...they had all had a booster covid vaccine...""





The Cleveland study very clearly shows the censorship and how the summaries no longer need to mirror the data. After all you cannot get published without safe and effective and that sweat sweat cash and prestige won't supply itself(not that scientists care about such mundane matters)

"Despite several attempts to deny its conclusions and claim it has been misinterpreted, this Cleveland study indisputably shows a greater than threefold increase in covid infections in those who were boosted. A large-scale Israeli research study reported in the BMJ at the end of 2021 had already found a significantly increased risk of covid infection after the second vaccine dose. Its significance was ignored. Perversely, the authors concluded that this negative efficacy might warrant a third dose."







The Japanese are really starting to kick off and push against the agenda lately...

"However, last week an amazing paper from Japan was published. It was available on a pre-publication server last year but now it has been peer-reviewed and published in Cureus. Titled Increased age adjusted cancer mortality after the third mRNA lipid nanoparticle vaccine dose during the COVID pandemic in Japan, it is authored by Miki Gibo and colleagues. It is an enormous study and compares the full official statistics by annual and monthly age adjusted mortality rates (AMR) for the years 2020, 2021 and 2022 with regression analysis.












Anyway the information is there, IF you want to read. I feel like q woman with laryngitis without the ability to underline or highlight.
And what does he say about Covid and the side effects of Tamoxifen coupled with the blood clots and considering I used to smoke for 30 years, having Whooping Cough for 6 months. And well done being a pansy and not even tagging me in. Tell me again about which Oncology college you graduated from.
 
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