gsp fans are still the most delusional in the sport

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You’re trying way too hard. I like it.
Of course, you definitely like it, mate.. That´s dat ol´ comfortable Spider vs No Rush shit, the very reason why you log in.

But... assessin´ '4-7-1', legacy-wise?


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Because he was persistent like you and couldn’t admit he was wrong.
My argument stands. Chael dominated the first Silva fight up to the point of the sub. Must’ve been your alternate account ehh gono?
ah... This idiot wanna continue that creepy retarded debate...

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In time, Gono literally destroyed (2 pages) that dude who toyed with you durin´25 pages:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...jones-or-fedor.4060907/page-14#post-157629725

And now..What you´re gonna say, mate?
 
enough of this nonsense that gsp was a better and more dominant champ than Bones.

You guys are telling me that beating kos twice, Thiago Alves, Dan Hardy, Jon Fitch (who was a really good fighter no disrespect to him at all), Condit (again another really good fighter), out of weight class BJ, 40 year old Matt Hughes twice after getting subbed the first time, Serra, Nick Diaz (another really good fighter) means more than Bones resume?

Rampage
Lyoto
Vitor
Rashad
DC x2
Shogun

all of them are all time greats and former world champions

then you have gus x2
Chael
Bader
Santos
Reyes
Smith
Glover

All of these are really good wins that are on par with gsps best wins imo. The only win that gsp can say is against a prime guy who is an all time great was Jake Sheilds who in reality beat gsp on the feet for 2 rounds in the worst fight ever. I honestly cant say I ever watched a gsp fight and enjoyed it start to finish.

Georges has quite possibly the most overrated career in the history of the sport. All of his opponents never even went .500 after fighting him aside from Jake who went exactly .500. So that tells us that the guys he fought were all on the downside and they werent even all time greats who held belts in other orgs or weight classes or even in his own weight class. Honestly I think the Sean Sherk win might be the best of his career after Shields probably tied with condit and fitch.

When the Robbies, Hendricks (who beat the shit out of him), Rory and Twoods of the world came around he retired and waited for the weakest champ in the history of the sport aside from Carla Esparza and came out of retirement for a fight with a cyclops who was on his last legs. Great win georges I wonder if he would have come back for Whittaker or Izzy lol.

Nothing against gsp, he seems like a great guy and a great ambassador for the sport but he isnt anywhere near Bones, Anderson and Fedors level. MM and gsp have similar resumes imo, both dominated good not great fighters. At least Mm had some finishes.
I'm a bigger fan of Jones than GSP but your argument is ridiculous. GSP beat the man regarded as the best WW and arguably #2 too this day in his prime, twice.

Fitch in his prime who was the clear #2 for years and most certainly would have held the belt if not for GSP.

Prime Penn twice who was regarded as the best LW of all time, had already beaten Hughes too win the WW belt and given Georges one of his toughest fights previously.

Shields, an all time great without question.

Koscheck, the clear #3 for years twice, in his prime.

Condit, the former WEC and Interm UFC Champion and long time top 5 contender also in his prime.

Diaz, another perennial too 10 fighter and former champion in his prime.

Basically George beat 2 guys that had no real business getting Title shots against him at the time but since he had already destroyed everyone ranked above them he had too fight someone.

The majority of the names on his list had, or would have almost undoubtedly, won UFC Titles if it hadn't been for one thing...... GSP.

George has 5 wins over MMA hall of famers (atleast, possibly 7) all in their Primes.

Jon has a great list of names at the too of his resume but none where in their primes and a few names that were names but had no business getting title shots against him (Vitor/ Chael) where well past their primes and never held a UFC belt (they didn't win by a fluke eye injury and immediately lose in dominant fashion too the same guy.)

Both resumes are great and on paper Jons actually looks better because it has more big names even people who don't really follow the sport have heard of but anyone who was around too see both reigns and know the context surrounding each name on those perspective resumes know George's is actually superior.

This shit is so ridiculous, haha, I love the "retired when the Robbie's, Rory Macs, Hendrix's and T Woods came around".

In reality none of these guys would have been favorites against GSP and had he not retired when he did at least 2 of them never would have held the belt in the first place and 1 of the other 2 would have never gotten the shot against the guy that wouldn't fight him because they where teammates dominated him.

Basically GSP retiring was a blessing for the division and allowed the title too become the hot potato it has in the 6 years since being past around by guys who can only dream of being as complete a MMAist as GSP was and would have all been praying their saving grace punching power may have allowed them too score that huge upset against the man who's legacy they all wished was theirs. (Which inevitably would have happened at some point but possibly not quite yet had he not retired).
 
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Usman is way better than GSP. Even his record is better.
Woodley & Prime Colby > all of GSP opponents.
Yeah, thanks for showing me how pointless it is talking too you, obviously the guy with 1 former Champion who got his ass kicked by GSP light and Colby "I got out struck by the guy that doesn't out strike anybody" Covington on his resume is far better than the most dominant Champion in the divisions history who was just as good as him at his biggest strength and far superior in every aspect of the game.

I mean if it was me personally I know I would much rather have Usmans record with it's 3 top 10 wins and 1 loss to a nobody than GSPs with all those title defences, top 5 wins and hall of famers too go along with my 0 unavenged losses.

Really who in their right mind wouldn't though...

Kay, I'm not wasting any more time in this stupid debate.

Cheers dude, have fun.
 
Because he was persistent like you and couldn’t admit he was wrong.
My argument stands. Chael dominated the first Silva fight up to the point of the sub. Must’ve been your alternate account ehh gono?
LOL, you're arguing with gono? Now I understand who you meant by persistent little weirdo, couldn't have been more correct. Dude has such an attention whore disorder it's unbelievable with his autistic level typing because he HAS to stand out. He has to be that one nerd that brings up old, literally irrelevant stuff that is in actuality, flat out wrong. I bet he brought up his 1st fight, which GSP won, like it means some argument.

Then when you retort, he'll literally "oh shit, hur dur, I can't refute this guy's factual posts so I'll just restort to my weird typing and still claim I won" even though he had ZERO argument worth even replying to because it was so stupid to even adress. Yeah losing to someone with a losing record while Silva is no longer green somehow has more merit/more respectable/"legacy" bullshit, than GSP losing to someone who had a winning record and he actually fought again and destroyed, suuuuure little autistic buddy, idk what you're arguing, but it isn't working.
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While you're sitting at your computer like<36> because he REALLY believes he's some intellectual, when in reality he's just some weirdo in a basement posting old ass MMA fights when MMA REALLY had zero relevancy.

Persistent weirdo<{MingNope}>, literally perfect name for him. Especially when he cannot handle being wrong. Then again he'll say YOU'RE the one mad, even though you can tell he's trying ever so harder by the way he divulges more into autistic typing as if that indicates anything other than him just being a weirdo.<Lmaoo>

Do yourself a favor and skip his post, don't ignore him because you'll miss some serious facepalming posts, but just skip him whenever it comes to anything GSP. If you're not idolizing some 20th century MMA folklore pioneer he gets his jimmies rustled hardcore.
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Atleast spider, and favalar are coherent in their arguments.<Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

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The GSP fangirls are without a doubt the most delusional and delicate. Even worse than Conor kids.

They literally try to change history, math, and language.....regularly. It's outrageous.
 
LOL, you're arguing with gono? Now I understand who you meant by persistent little weirdo, couldn't have been more correct. Dude has such an attention whore disorder it's unbelievable with his autistic level typing because he HAS to stand out. He has to be that one nerd that brings up old, literally irrelevant stuff that is in actuality, flat out wrong. I bet he brought up his 1st fight, which GSP won, like it means some argument.

Then when you retort, he'll literally "oh shit, hur dur, I can't refute this guy's factual posts so I'll just restort to my weird typing and still claim I won" even though he had ZERO argument worth even replying to because it was so stupid to even adress. Yeah losing to someone with a losing record while Silva is no longer green somehow has more merit/more respectable/"legacy" bullshit, than GSP losing to someone who had a winning record and he actually fought again and destroyed, suuuuure little autistic buddy, idk what you're arguing, but it isn't working.
{<jordan}

While you're sitting at your computer like<36> because he REALLY believes he's some intellectual, when in reality he's just some weirdo in a basement posting old ass MMA fights when MMA REALLY had zero relevancy.

Persistent weirdo<{MingNope}>, literally perfect name for him. Especially when he cannot handle being wrong. Then again he'll say YOU'RE the one mad, even though you can tell he's trying ever so harder by the way he divulges more into autistic typing as if that indicates anything other than him just being a weirdo.<Lmaoo>

Do yourself a favor and skip his post, don't ignore him because you'll miss some serious facepalming posts, but just skip him whenever it comes to anything GSP. If you're not idolizing some 20th century MMA folklore pioneer he gets his jimmies rustled hardcore.
<CroCop1>

Atleast spider, and favalar are coherent in their arguments.<Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

{<shrug}
ah... another weirdo from that cheap fanbase... hypetrain who basically only does 3 things here:

> spittin´ the MJ gif 50 times a day

> jus´like Intelid´anus, only login´ in to copy/paste ad nauseam in the No Rush vs Spider threads.

> lol´in that the Spider threads are troll jobs, but...but... keeps postin´there...

In time, vintage hypetr: this coward also never tags anyone...
 
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The GSP fangirls are without a doubt the most delusional and delicate. Even worse than Conor kids.

They literally try to change history, math, and language.....regularly. It's outrageous.

Actually, I find more false narratives against gsp than any other fighter. The revision of history throughout the years has been crazy
 
Jon's wins over DC trump anything GSP has ever done. Win for win, their resumes arent even close.

GSP is better technique for technique. More skilled. But Jon has natural gifts....long but strong with an iron jaw..
 
I still.don't get how some.of you are claiming that Hughes was in his prime when gsp finally beat him. Dude was almost 40. anything close to 40 in ww division is like being an extra in the movie Cocoon.

How can condit Diaz and Fitch and sheilds compare to lyoto, rampage, DC and shogun. How the hell can gsp fans objectively compare the resumes of four all time greats to 4 really good fighters? I'll even give you sheilds as an all time great. And this is coming from.a Jake sheilds condit Diaz and Fitch fan. Im a huge fan of all four. I used to defend Jon Fitch on here when it was open season on him here back in the day.
If we are only talking about level of competition, bones has huge names on his resume and gsp has two bj and Hughes and all four of those wins look weak AF now. Bj was a LW who had balls to move up and not wait for a 40 year old cyclops to challenge and the Hughes wins look pedestrian at best because the guy was almost 40 and clearly done. Is rich franklins win over Liddell heralded as his best win? Cmon this is such revisionist history.
 
I regret encouraging this debate. I just went through like five other threads that were linked cause I had nothing better to do and now I wanna stick my hand in a goddamn blender @Intellidamus @gono btw

You both throw shit at the wall a little too much and hope it sticks but this gono dude comes off like an autistic psychopath. Stop referring to yourself in the third person. You move the goalposts and duck questions as often as you accuse others of it. Have a little self-awareness.

ah... This idiot wanna continue that creepy retarded debate...

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In time, Gono literally destroyed (2 pages) that dude who toyed with you durin´25 pages:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...jones-or-fedor.4060907/page-14#post-157629725

And now..What you´re gonna say, mate?

And you definitely didn’t win this debate. The other guy did. It is very, very clear that he did.
 
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I regret encouraging this debate. I just went through like five other threads that were linked cause I had nothing better to do and now I wanna stick my hand in a goddamn blender @Intellidamus @gono btw

You both throw shit at the wall a little too much and hope it sticks but this gono dude comes off like an autistic psychopath. Stop referring to yourself in the third person. You move the goalposts and duck questions as often as you accuse others of it. Have a little self-awareness.



And you definitely didn’t win this debate. The other guy did. It is very, very clear that he did.
bah... You seem to be an idiot, jus´like the 2 other dudes (btw, see how they quickly go full ad hominem to duck the real debates)

Nobodoy´s autistic, this is plain stupid. Otherwise, how do you explain Gono convincin´ those 10 posters (most of them well hespected & considered the best out here) to dedicate time to provide some legit info ´round here:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...art-36-the-best-base-special-edition.4013527/

Meanwhile, you dont seem to understand the real problematics in those debates, that´s why you cant reallly assess who ducked & who didnt.

It iz what it iz.
 
bah... You seem to be an idiot, jus´like the 2 other dudes (btw, see how they quickly go full ad hominem to duck the real debates)

Nobodoy´s autistic, this is plain stupid. Otherwise, how do you explain Gono convincin´ those 10 posters (most of them well hespected & considered the best out here) to dedicate time to provide some legit info ´round here:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...art-36-the-best-base-special-edition.4013527/

Meanwhile, you dont seem to understand the real problematics in those debates, that´s why you cant reallly assess who ducked & who didnt.

It iz what it iz.

you’re still coming off like a goddamn faux intellectual incel. Nobody is convinced by the act man. Saying shit like ad hominem doesn’t make you smarter. We’ve all taken an English class. Just say they’re attacking you because they don’t like you no matter what you say.

What’s actually ad nauseam here is this routine; it’s been done by many posters before you and there will be plenty after. And you’re still referring to yourself in third person. That is one reason why you’re being called autistic. Lose the act, just post about MMA and stop acting like you're an intellectual. Nobody cares.
 
you’re still coming off like a goddamn faux intellectual incel. Nobody is convinced by the act man. Saying shit like ad hominem doesn’t make you smarter. We’ve all taken an English class. Just say they’re attacking you because they don’t like you no matter what you say.

What’s actually ad nauseam here is this routine; it’s been done by many posters before you and there will be plenty after. And you’re still referring to yourself in third person. That is one reason why you’re being called autistic. Lose the act, just post about MMA and stop acting like you're an intellectual. Nobody cares.
ah... this is no English, mate... it´s ...somethin´else...

They (jus´like you) go full ad hominem, for the simple reason that they cant sustain a legit MMA debate.

Meanwhile, Gono talks like the fook he wants, it´s none of your business, lmao.

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Anyway, you´re literally urgin´Gono to post about MMA.... Interestin´, indeed...

This is Gono´s contribution ´round here:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...art-36-the-best-base-special-edition.4013527/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-24-carlson´s-silence.3879035/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-part-9-bjj-during-the-vale-tudo-era.3826197/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-13-1-khabib´s-eastern-european-career.3830345/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-13-2-khabib´s-eastern-european-career-the-magomedov-fight.3968083/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-14-mousasi-flukes.3836617/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-the-anatomy-of-a-fighter-khabib-1-2.3844333/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-the-anatomy-of-a-fighter-khabib-2-2.3844507/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...t-16-siamese-brothers-the-2-hw-goats.3851935/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-25-the-wild-wild-east.3886295/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-23-cross-training-in-mma´s-dark-ages.3874607/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-groovy-paradox.3893619/page-3#post-148236621
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...de-ow-gp-mezger-those-infamous-6-lbs.3899881/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-28-deaf-ears.3907767/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-29-bj-penn-the-frontrunner.3925599/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-30-mma´s-buster-douglas.3935185/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-fights-start-from-standing-position.3808087/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-5-the-true-evolution-of-mma.3807975/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...tion-of-submission-defence-grappling.3803333/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-3-the-evolution-of-werdum´s-striking.3831261/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-2-hunto´s-atomicbutt-drop.3735841/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-1-hoyce-his-gi-ufc-1.3734725/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...skill-set-mma-evolution-the-hws-case.3815393/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...hs-part-8-mma-cans-the-unsung-heroes.3822123/
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http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-11-fighters´evolution.3827221/
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http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-17-askren´s-undefeated-record.3855315/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-18-the-genesis-of-ufc-1´s-roster.3855847/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-evolution-the-mw-transitional-era-s.3858851/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-20-judges-mma-ideology.3862173/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ma-evolution-the-disorganized-ww-div.3873877/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...part-22-the-avenged-losses-narrative.3874257/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-ufc-5-requiem-for-the-vale-tudo-era.3947367/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-32-where´s-dat-suplex-monster.3954795/
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https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-37-controversial-decisions-scorin´systems.4020275/

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Now, show me YOUR contribution.

Waitin´.
 
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Actually, I find more false narratives against gsp than any other fighter. The revision of history throughout the years has been crazy

Disagree.

His fans are the epitome of delusional.
 
"You're such a piece of shit."

lmao, what a lil sissy...

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bah... No Rush ´tards like you cant even read. Your OP was about the WW div., not about your hero,
ya lil prick. Happens that Menjivar is a good example of that era. What are ya gonna do? Cry more, more...


Menjivar is far from a good example of that era. That was GSP's first ever pro fight, in a minor league. You fucking dumbass. GSP's era of domination started a good 5 years after that.
 
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