International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. VII

[LeonardoBjj]

Israeli attack kills 10, mostly children, in Gaza’s Rafah​

Funerals are held for Palestinians killed in Tal as-Sultan neighbourhood, as Israel continues to target southernmost Rafah.

An Israeli air strike on a house in Gaza’s southernmost city of Rafah killed at least 10 people, including six children, hospital authorities said, as Israel pursues its nearly seven-month offensive in the besieged Palestinian territory.

Funerals were held on Saturday for those killed in the deadly strike on Rafah’s western Tal as-Sultan neighbourhood the night before, according to Gaza’s civil defence.

At al-Najjar Hospital, the site of the area’s main morgue, relatives sobbed and hugged white-shrouded children’s bodies. “Hamza my beloved. Your hair looks so pretty,” a mourning grandmother said.

The fatalities included Abdel-Fattah Sobhi Radwan, his wife Najlaa Ahmed Aweidah and their three children, according to his brother-in-law Ahmed Barhoum. Barhoum lost his wife, Rawan Radwan, and their five-year-old daughter, Alaa.

“This is a world devoid of all human values and morals,” Barhoum told The Associated Press, crying as he gently rocked Alaa’s body.

“They bombed a house full of displaced people, women and children. The only martyrs were women and children.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/20/israeli-attack-kills-10-mostly-children-in-gazas-rafah

 

[iwannabeadored]

There is an old Christopher Hitchens interview where he basically says zionists/religious Jews are driven to build a homeland, take as much Palestinian land as possible, pack it with as many jews as possible to prove to their god they are worthy of their messiah's return.

So yeah that seems to allign with your post.

Religion of colonization?

hitchens is the man. It’s crazy how relevant his words are and he’s been dead for 14 years.

Israel has the right to a state, just not at the expense of a Palestinian state.

 

[iwannabeadored]

Oh' give it a rest. Palestine has been offered a two state solution over and over again, and they've promptly said "no" every single time.

false, Israel and the U.S. has rejected a Palestinian state every time.

 

[tastaylvr]

Malarkey. You do know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East where Christianity is thriving, right? You're also going to pretend that Palestinian Christians haven't faced persecution by their Muslim counterparts? Then how do you explain the following?

Killing of Rami Ayyad - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Once again, you completely ignore the point and go on another tangent.

I said that Israeli would kill every single Palestinians regardless of religion. This is due to their hatred for Palestinians.

You reply with something meaningless like, "well Christians are doing fine in ISRAEL". What the fuck does that have do with them hating Palestinians and wanting to steal their land?

I'm either talking to some shill or a bucket level iq idiot

who knows these days

you barely ever stay on topic, every single response you have is something premade by any other israeli bootlicker on other social media forums

nothing ever original or meaningful when we stray off normal talking points

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Once again, you completely ignore the point and go on another tangent.

I said that Israeli would kill every single Palestinians regardless of religion. This is due to their hatred for Palestinians.

You reply with something meaningless like, "well Christians are doing fine in ISRAEL". What the fuck does that have do with them hating Palestinians and wanting to steal their land?

I'm either talking some shill or a bucket level iq idiot

who knows these days

you barely ever stay on topic

Right, because the Palestinian Arabs who accepted Israel's sovereignty and became Israeli citizens are currently being ethnically cleansed by their own government.

Give it up, jackass.

 

[tastaylvr]

This is why I have zero empathy for the Palestinians. At BEST they agreed with 07/10. At best. At worst, they participated. You don't get to hate someone and dance around and gloat their pain, then moan about being victims when the hammer swings back.

And you can say well 07/10 was retaliation.


Fair enough. I'm from Wales. Read up on what the English did to Wales. If a few hundred Welsh terrorists entered England and did 07/10 to them and I celebrated it and called for more. I can't complain if England walks over the border and annihilates us.

Sometimes you just aren't big or hard enough. It's that simple.

lol we get it man

a person name "The_Renaissance" who spends most of his forum disparaging Muslims doesn't care if they die

your basic line for deaths is "If they support this" then they deserve to die

the magical thought process of such a man

hoping people die for holding a belief

 

[tastaylvr]

Right, because the Palestinian Arabs who accepted Israel's sovereignty and became Israeli citizens are currently being ethnically cleansed by their own government.

Give it up, jackass.

Did you miss the part about the land? or is that something you want to ignore? or do you think those Arabs living under check point security have the same rights as other Israelis? or the fact they are not even allowed to attend the same schools? or the fact that high schoolers polled don't even think they have the right to vote? or they would disown any person talking to an Arab?

stop this nonsense

even beyond that half of Israeli society wants them gone lol and imagine living under such conditions? so magical right

 

[Gotosleepho]

Does anyone here condone all of the foreign aid spending that we are giving other countries while neglecting our own country? Or is it pretty obvious that our politicians and lawmakers are all bought?

 

[tastaylvr]

Does anyone here condone all of the foreign aid spending that we are giving other countries while neglecting our own country? Or is it pretty obvious that our politicians and lawmakers are all bought?

They don't care as long as more Arabs die. Nor do they have the power to stop it.

 

[Rholk]

Does anyone here condone all of the foreign aid spending that we are giving other countries while neglecting our own country? Or is it pretty obvious that our politicians and lawmakers are all bought?

Pretty much everybody does, yes.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Did you miss the part about the land? or is that something you want to ignore? or do you think those Arabs living under check point security have the same rights as other Israelis? or the fact they are not even allowed to attend the same schools? or the fact that high schoolers polled don't even think they have the right to vote? or they would disown any person talking to an Arab?

stop this nonsense

even beyond that half of Israeli society wants them gone lol and imagine living under such conditions? so magical right

What? Judea and Samaria aka the West Bank? The land that was inhabited by Jews for over 3 millenia?

What schools are denying entrance to Arab Israelis?

Arab and Jewish students embrace diversity at University of Haifa

For more than 50 years, University of Haifa has been weaving a rich tapestry of diverse students who share the common goal of bettering themselves and Israel’s North.

www.jpost.com

Arab-Israeli leads the way at Hebrew University of Jerusalem - The Canadian Friends of Hebrew University

She is the first Arab-Israeli to serve as a vice-president at Hebrew University — and...

www.cfhu.org

 

[haysus31]

As i mentioned in earlier posts the economic damage is ongoing. And wide spread. Tourism is disrupted as is all economic. Activity during the crisis. No end in sight to this one. Below from wall street journal. Evry month this goes on the economic probplems get worst.



S&P Global Ratings said it
lowered its long-term foreign and
local currency sovereign credit
ratings on Israel to A-plus from
AA-minus, citing geopolitical
risks.
S&P also said it has a negative
outlook on the country, reflecting
risks that military conflict
could escalate and "affect
Israel's economic, fiscal, and
balance-of-payments parameters
more significantly than we
currently expect."
S&P mentioned that recent
confrontations with Iran have
increased Israel's geopolitical
at an elevated level. While S&P
expects a wider regional confiict
will be avoided, conflict with
Hamas and Hezbollah appear set
to continue throughout this year,
it said
World
S&P also said it expects Israel's
general government deficit
will widen to 8% of GDP this
year, citing increased military
spending as the prevailing factor.
Write to Stephen Nakrosis at

 

[Anewt]

What? Judea and Samaria aka the West Bank? The land that was inhabited by Jews for over 3 millenia?

What schools are denying entrance to Arab Israelis?

Arab and Jewish students embrace diversity at University of Haifa

For more than 50 years, University of Haifa has been weaving a rich tapestry of diverse students who share the common goal of bettering themselves and Israel’s North.

www.jpost.com

Arab-Israeli leads the way at Hebrew University of Jerusalem - The Canadian Friends of Hebrew University

She is the first Arab-Israeli to serve as a vice-president at Hebrew University — and...

www.cfhu.org

Human rights watch report. It's long have a read

Human Rights Watch: Second Class: Discrimination Against Palestinian Arab Children in Israel's Schools - Summary

Nearly one in four of Israel's 1.6 million schoolchildren are educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority. The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin. Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel's majority Jewish population. Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children. This report is about Israel's discrimination against its Palestinian Arab children in guaranteeing the right to education.

The Israeli government operates two separate school systems, one for Jewish children and one for Palestinian Arab children. Discrimination against Palestinian Arab children colors every aspect of the two systems. Education Ministry authorities have acknowledged that the ministry spends less per student in the Arab system than in the Jewish school system. The majority's schools also receive additional state and state-sponsored private funding for school construction and special programs through other government agencies. The gap is enormous--on every criterion measured by Israeli authorities.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Human rights watch report. It's long have a read

Human Rights Watch: Second Class: Discrimination Against Palestinian Arab Children in Israel's Schools - Summary

Nearly one in four of Israel's 1.6 million schoolchildren are educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority. The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin. Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel's majority Jewish population. Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children. This report is about Israel's discrimination against its Palestinian Arab children in guaranteeing the right to education.

The Israeli government operates two separate school systems, one for Jewish children and one for Palestinian Arab children. Discrimination against Palestinian Arab children colors every aspect of the two systems. Education Ministry authorities have acknowledged that the ministry spends less per student in the Arab system than in the Jewish school system. The majority's schools also receive additional state and state-sponsored private funding for school construction and special programs through other government agencies. The gap is enormous--on every criterion measured by Israeli authorities.

It's an old article dating back to 2001.

Arab Christian Israelis are one of the most educated groups in Israel. They are more likely to graduate from high school and college than their Jewish counterparts and especially than their Muslim counterparts:

Christian Arabs top country’s matriculation charts

Students from the religious minority, which makes up only 2% of Israel's population, most likely to graduate high school

www.timesofisrael.com

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Israel#Education

To use a slightly un-PC analogy, they're like the Asian Americans of Israel in terms of their level of education. Why could this be the case? Perhaps because the Christian Arabs value education more than their Muslim counterparts? Is it racist to make this conjecture even though they are both of the same race?

 

[tastaylvr]

Fifty percent of Jewish Israeli high-schoolers believe that Arab Israelis should not be granted the same rights as their Jewish counterparts, according to a new Ma’agar Mohot poll of 536 15-to-18-year-olds.

Fifty percent of the Jewish youngsters who defined themselves as religious said the “Death to Arabs” slogan was legitimate.

​

Furthermore, Arabs should be prevented from running for Knesset, 56 percent of the Jewish children said.

Fifty percent of the Jewish youngsters who defined themselves as religious said the “Death to Arabs” slogan was legitimate.

Moreover, 70% of Arab Israeli youngsters polled defined themselves as “Palestinian patriots,” and 20% don’t feel a part of the country.

Minister for Minorities Affairs Avishai Braverman (Labor) called the survey results “very grave.”

“I believe that it’s the result of ignorance and a campaign of incitement that has been with us a long time,” he said, calling for “meaningful” educational activities to allow the ethnic communities in Israel to better understand one another. “We came here to set up a Jewish state, but it’s also a state for all its citizens.”

Yuval Lipkin, head of the Citizens’ Empowerment Center in Israel, said that while the survey responses were exceedingly worrying, there was still some cause for optimism.

“The problem is getting worse. Racism is severe,” Lipkin said. “But the nice thing is that these are youths who can still be molded and among whom gaps can be bridged, which cannot be said of adults.”

MKs and educators were visiting Tel Aviv University on Thursday to begin trying to find a way change the mindset of young Israelis.



They tried to lynch their own principle for saying there is media bias lol

These are the children of Israel talking about other citizens of their country.

so much equality

 

[helax]

Yeah they really tried hard to beat him up. I'm sure all those people couldn't have beat his ass if they really wanted to.

 

[tastaylvr]

Yeah they really tried hard to beat him up. I'm sure all those people couldn't have beat his ass if they really wanted to.

I can understand older people holding certain views however in Israel the children are more extreme than their parents. There is something going wrong here.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Oh well, Passover starts tomorrow. Maybe the Palestinians will get a week's respite from getting their heads kicked in. The IDF probably needs a break at this point.

 

[tastaylvr]

Oh well, Passover starts tomorrow. Maybe the Palestinians will get a week's respite from getting their heads kicked in. The IDF probably needs a break at this point.

People like you are the quietest irl.

 

[KnightTemplar]

People like you are the quietest irl.

Empty cans make the most noise, old boy.