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How would prime Rich “Ace” Franklin do in today’s MW division?

Discussion in 'Fantasy Matchup Discussion' started by TheSpider, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. pankrat Black Belt

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    Fighters generally dont dominate across two generations because mileage and age are real.
    Franklin did fine against good versions of Henderson, Wand, Okami or Hammil. If you think any moder top15 as Elias Theodorou would "spark" those guys you dont really know what you r talking about
     
  2. HHJ GOATchazka

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    I mean he got beat by Cung and Vitor,what makes people think hed do ok against Yoel,Izzy or even Till or Goastelum?
     
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    Israel is the champion and Yoel is arguably #2. You are saying Franklin would get beat by any modern fighter, why even bring Israel and Yoel to that argument. Can you try not being such a :eek::eek:
     
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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Wand was 1-4 in his last 5. That was a very, very toned version of the axe murderer.

    He was knocked out in his last fight against an also aging rampage, a guy he destroyed with his thai clinch in his prime.

    So im not sure if Wand's thai clinch game was on point anymore at that time of his career.
     
  6. Bork Neslar Brown Belt

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    Not very well.
     
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    The REAL question we should be asking is how would Edwin Dewees do today? with modern training.
     
  8. Slatersan Black Belt

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    You didn’t like that I kept using silva as an example but you keep using Elias (who isn’t even in the ufc anymore) as an example of a guy rich might be able to take on. Considering that’s the only example you have you are proving yourself wrong.
     
  9. pankrat Black Belt

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    Numbers dont say much. Especially when I'd bet on most ranked MWs today to get beat by the likes of Rampage or Crocop.
    That same version of Wand beat Bisping, who still had two functional eyes, unlike when he actually became champion years later.
     
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    “He got demolished by Anderson silva so not well”... Anderson silva would demolish any mw of all time lol
     
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  11. pankrat Black Belt

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    Rich Franklin could win or lose to Brunson, Hall, Tavares, Heinish, Omari, Cara de Sapato or even fringe top5 Till, Kelvin or Vettori. Definitely a tough fight for every of them. And it would be the best win in the career of almost any of them.

    Not sure they would do better than Franklin vs Henderson, Okami, Wand, Hammil, Quarry or Liddel neither
     
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    TRT vitor would wreck Till.
     
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    This is what I'd think too, he seemed like a hard worker and would certainly evolve.
     
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    TRT Vitor was also one of the biggest juice heads the sport has ever seen, even by pre-USADA standards.
     
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    Yeah I remember when the UFC was good.
     
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    Another failed attempt by TS.
     
  17. cburm Purple Belt

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    id say today hed be top 5 somwhere but this is all opinion he lost to the best ever everybody mentions like it was cm punk or something but he had size power its not that he couldnt defend a thai clinch

    Its the fact he got put in one by a super intelligent fighter who knows how to keep somone in it..

    Thats like saying BROCK lesner couldnt defend it.. From Alister overeem so he wouldnt of ben shit when he was the hw champion... With 0 mma

    And rich didnt have decades of training he was a school teacher before he got into mma.

    Just being realistic about my opinion.
     
  18. pankrat Black Belt

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    I think his wins over Wand and Okami were extremely close, and neither Wand nor Okami were in their absolute prime at that point.
    None of his other wins would be top5 worthy by today standards, not even close really, including his best win in Evan Tanner.

    So I dont see evidence enough to say Rich would be a top5 fighter today. I think he could be a fringe top10 though
     
  19. Choco I can quit any day..

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    He wasn't huge by any means. Every single one of the old time MW (And many of the "fat" WW) fought as a 200ish pounder because the 185ish divisions weren't really a thing.
    If you don't allow for any ajustement, then this game is silly.
    Prime Anderson beats Izzy with ease. You have a gooffy concept of prime if you think thar Franklin retired in his prime.

    - Rich handles pre-Parrillo Bisping with ease. Beats Parrillo Bisping too.
    - Rich does things to GSP that Serra wouldn't dream
    - A tricky lefty like RIch could have done to Rockhold what Bisping did

    Three fairly recent MW champs
     
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    show me where i said that or you are goofy !


    Anderson on drugs get the W over Izzy i agree

    also Rich DOESN'T get a W over Bisping prime for prime

    Franklin doesn't do nadda to GSP
     

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