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He just doesn't have it in him to be a great one, it has been obvious for a little while now, he should already have another job.
Does not include reebok money
2014
Loss to Al Iaquinta:8k to show
Win over Jesse Ronson: 8k/8k=16k
Win over Jon Tuck: 10k/10k=20k
=44k
2015
Win over Michel Prazeres:12k/12k=24k
Win over James Moontasri: 18k/18k=36kBar
Loss to Leo Santos: 21k
=81k
2016
Win over Efrain Escudero: 24/24k=48k
Win over Jake Matthews: 27k/27k=54k
Win Over Magomed Mustafaev:30k/30k+50k bonus=110k
=212k
2017
Win over Francisco Trinaldo: 32k/32k=64k
Win over Michael Chiesa: 27k/48k+50k=125k
Loss to Tony Ferguson: 250k
=439k
2018
Win over Edson Barboza: 75k/75k=150k
Loss to Al Iaquinta 84k
=234k
2019
Loss to Raphael Dos Anjos: 86k
Win over Gregor Gillespie: 86k/86k+50k=222k
=308k
2020
Loss to Charles Oliveira:90k
=90k
2021
Loss to Daniel Rodriguez:80k
=80k
Total Career Earnings:1.488 million
Now obviously right off the bat you already know that 10% went to his coaches, 10% went to management/agent, another 10% for miscellaneous things like massages, gym memberships, gear and equipment, paying sparring partners, supplements, travelling for training, food. Im not even factoring in copays for the probable frequent doctors visits for MRIs, xrays, surgeries even with insurance adds up. 35% or even more might be more accurate but we will just 30% to be conservative.
30% of 1480000=444000
=1036000
His tax bracket varied over the years, but lets just say that 30% of his income is taxed, and he was able to deduct his overhead expenses and only had to pay taxes on his 1036000.
30% of 1036000=310800
=725200 after taxes
He gets paid relatively well and doesn't win that much, he might be on the chopping block as he is clearly in his decline. He peaked in 2016-2017, his wins and earnings reflect it, but he will probably never have a year like that ever again. His earnings will probably hover around what he currently makes before getting cut and picked by Bellator or One. Then his earnings will go down even more because they will pay him less. He already barely fights. Despite only being 28, he already has been a professional for 9 years, and his style is so dependent on his physicality, which is in decline. He relied on being the much bigger guy and was one of the biggest weight cutters in lightweight history, walking around 190 pounds very regularly. 725k over 7 years might sound decent, but he is going to have long term physical and probably mental ramifications. The guy has already aged a ton in 7 years. He also will have next to no transferrable skills. Everyone says open a gym or coach, but name a single successful coach who use to be a high level MMA fighter. He could be a wrestling coach at a high school or college, but he will probably fight well into his 30s until he breaks physically.
Unless you are an extremely exiting fighter who can get lots of bonuses, or be a dominant champion(winning the title doesn't mean you are rich by any means) then its not worth it financially. Even if you make lots of money, you will be broken physically or have brain damage.
Does not include reebok money
2014
Loss to Al Iaquinta:8k to show
Win over Jesse Ronson: 8k/8k=16k
Win over Jon Tuck: 10k/10k=20k
=44k
2015
Win over Michel Prazeres:12k/12k=24k
Win over James Moontasri: 18k/18k=36kBar
Loss to Leo Santos: 21k
=81k
2016
Win over Efrain Escudero: 24/24k=48k
Win over Jake Matthews: 27k/27k=54k
Win Over Magomed Mustafaev:30k/30k+50k bonus=110k
=212k
2017
Win over Francisco Trinaldo: 32k/32k=64k
Win over Michael Chiesa: 27k/48k+50k=125k
Loss to Tony Ferguson: 250k
=439k
2018
Win over Edson Barboza: 75k/75k=150k
Loss to Al Iaquinta 84k
=234k
2019
Loss to Raphael Dos Anjos: 86k
Win over Gregor Gillespie: 86k/86k+50k=222k
=308k
2020
Loss to Charles Oliveira:90k
=90k
2021
Loss to Daniel Rodriguez:80k
=80k
Total Career Earnings:1.488 million
Now obviously right off the bat you already know that 10% went to his coaches, 10% went to management/agent, another 10% for miscellaneous things like massages, gym memberships, gear and equipment, paying sparring partners, supplements, travelling for training, food. Im not even factoring in copays for the probable frequent doctors visits for MRIs, xrays, surgeries even with insurance adds up. 35% or even more might be more accurate but we will just 30% to be conservative.
30% of 1480000=444000
=1036000
His tax bracket varied over the years, but lets just say that 30% of his income is taxed, and he was able to deduct his overhead expenses and only had to pay taxes on his 1036000.
30% of 1036000=310800
=725200 after taxes
He gets paid relatively well and doesn't win that much, he might be on the chopping block as he is clearly in his decline. He peaked in 2016-2017, his wins and earnings reflect it, but he will probably never have a year like that ever again. His earnings will probably hover around what he currently makes before getting cut and picked by Bellator or One. Then his earnings will go down even more because they will pay him less. He already barely fights. Despite only being 28, he already has been a professional for 9 years, and his style is so dependent on his physicality, which is in decline. He relied on being the much bigger guy and was one of the biggest weight cutters in lightweight history, walking around 190 pounds very regularly. 725k over 7 years might sound decent, but he is going to have long term physical and probably mental ramifications. The guy has already aged a ton in 7 years. He also will have next to no transferrable skills. Everyone says open a gym or coach, but name a single successful coach who use to be a high level MMA fighter. He could be a wrestling coach at a high school or college, but he will probably fight well into his 30s until he breaks physically.
Unless you are an extremely exiting fighter who can get lots of bonuses, or be a dominant champion(winning the title doesn't mean you are rich by any means) then its not worth it financially. Even if you make lots of money, you will be broken physically or have brain damage.
This is just his UFC earnings, but the UFC has provided his benefits outside of fighter payouts
He's probably made a lot more $$$ off the books and gained fame
He can get sponsorships, he can do media
Without UFC, no one would have heard of this guy
Yea, I wouldn’t call myself super pro-management or anything, but I agree that not enough critics look at the counter factual. Kevin Lee (for example) seems like a bright enough guy, but it’s not like he was learning to program at MIT when he switched to MMA. The median income even in first world countries is not particularly high. Being a six figure earner is not easy, and I don’t think we should blow it off like it’s nothing.
I just find it a fucking weird that some posters have a hard on about how much another man makes. Who the fuck cares as long as they put on a good fight.
just admit that you didn't even read the thread, or the topic, you just clicked the thread looked, and said WHO CARES LMAO!?I just find it a fucking weird that some posters have a hard on about how much another man makes. Who the fuck cares as long as they put on a good fight.
Does not include reebok money
2014
Loss to Al Iaquinta:8k to show
Win over Jesse Ronson: 8k/8k=16k
Win over Jon Tuck: 10k/10k=20k
=44k
2015
Win over Michel Prazeres:12k/12k=24k
Win over James Moontasri: 18k/18k=36kBar
Loss to Leo Santos: 21k
=81k
2016
Win over Efrain Escudero: 24/24k=48k
Win over Jake Matthews: 27k/27k=54k
Win Over Magomed Mustafaev:30k/30k+50k bonus=110k
=212k
2017
Win over Francisco Trinaldo: 32k/32k=64k
Win over Michael Chiesa: 27k/48k+50k=125k
Loss to Tony Ferguson: 250k
=439k
2018
Win over Edson Barboza: 75k/75k=150k
Loss to Al Iaquinta 84k
=234k
2019
Loss to Raphael Dos Anjos: 86k
Win over Gregor Gillespie: 86k/86k+50k=222k
=308k
2020
Loss to Charles Oliveira:90k
=90k
2021
Loss to Daniel Rodriguez:80k
=80k
Total Career Earnings:1.488 million
Now obviously right off the bat you already know that 10% went to his coaches, 10% went to management/agent, another 10% for miscellaneous things like massages, gym memberships, gear and equipment, paying sparring partners, supplements, travelling for training, food. Im not even factoring in copays for the probable frequent doctors visits for MRIs, xrays, surgeries even with insurance adds up. 35% or even more might be more accurate but we will just 30% to be conservative.
30% of 1480000=444000
=1036000
His tax bracket varied over the years, but lets just say that 30% of his income is taxed, and he was able to deduct his overhead expenses and only had to pay taxes on his 1036000.
30% of 1036000=310800
=725200 after taxes
He gets paid relatively well and doesn't win that much, he might be on the chopping block as he is clearly in his decline. He peaked in 2016-2017, his wins and earnings reflect it, but he will probably never have a year like that ever again. His earnings will probably hover around what he currently makes before getting cut and picked by Bellator or One. Then his earnings will go down even more because they will pay him less. He already barely fights. Despite only being 28, he already has been a professional for 9 years, and his style is so dependent on his physicality, which is in decline. He relied on being the much bigger guy and was one of the biggest weight cutters in lightweight history, walking around 190 pounds very regularly. 725k over 7 years might sound decent, but he is going to have long term physical and probably mental ramifications. The guy has already aged a ton in 7 years. He also will have next to no transferrable skills. Everyone says open a gym or coach, but name a single successful coach who use to be a high level MMA fighter. He could be a wrestling coach at a high school or college, but he will probably fight well into his 30s until he breaks physically.
Unless you are an extremely exiting fighter who can get lots of bonuses, or be a dominant champion(winning the title doesn't mean you are rich by any means) then its not worth it financially. Even if you make lots of money, you will be broken physically or have brain damage.
A thread about how much a fighter has made isnt about money? Good one dick head.just admit that you didn't even read the thread, or the topic, you just clicked the thread looked, and said WHO CARES LMAO!?
It's perfectly reasonable, It's not about the money, I know you dont know this because you clearly didn't read the post, it was information to accompany the point he was making
but name a single successful coach who use to be a high level MMA fighter. .
It's more about his career trajectory if you had reading comprehension skills you'd know that.A thread about how much a fighter has made isnt about money? Good one dick head.
Career trajectory based on earnings.It's more about his career trajectory if you had reading comprehension skills you'd know that.
Does not include reebok money
2014
Loss to Al Iaquinta:8k to show
Win over Jesse Ronson: 8k/8k=16k
Win over Jon Tuck: 10k/10k=20k
=44k
2015
Win over Michel Prazeres:12k/12k=24k
Win over James Moontasri: 18k/18k=36kBar
Loss to Leo Santos: 21k
=81k
2016
Win over Efrain Escudero: 24/24k=48k
Win over Jake Matthews: 27k/27k=54k
Win Over Magomed Mustafaev:30k/30k+50k bonus=110k
=212k
2017
Win over Francisco Trinaldo: 32k/32k=64k
Win over Michael Chiesa: 27k/48k+50k=125k
Loss to Tony Ferguson: 250k
=439k
2018
Win over Edson Barboza: 75k/75k=150k
Loss to Al Iaquinta 84k
=234k
2019
Loss to Raphael Dos Anjos: 86k
Win over Gregor Gillespie: 86k/86k+50k=222k
=308k
2020
Loss to Charles Oliveira:90k
=90k
2021
Loss to Daniel Rodriguez:80k
=80k
Total Career Earnings:1.488 million
Now obviously right off the bat you already know that 10% went to his coaches, 10% went to management/agent, another 10% for miscellaneous things like massages, gym memberships, gear and equipment, paying sparring partners, supplements, travelling for training, food. Im not even factoring in copays for the probable frequent doctors visits for MRIs, xrays, surgeries even with insurance adds up. 35% or even more might be more accurate but we will just 30% to be conservative.
30% of 1480000=444000
=1036000
His tax bracket varied over the years, but lets just say that 30% of his income is taxed, and he was able to deduct his overhead expenses and only had to pay taxes on his 1036000.
30% of 1036000=310800
=725200 after taxes
He gets paid relatively well and doesn't win that much, he might be on the chopping block as he is clearly in his decline. He peaked in 2016-2017, his wins and earnings reflect it, but he will probably never have a year like that ever again. His earnings will probably hover around what he currently makes before getting cut and picked by Bellator or One. Then his earnings will go down even more because they will pay him less. He already barely fights. Despite only being 28, he already has been a professional for 9 years, and his style is so dependent on his physicality, which is in decline. He relied on being the much bigger guy and was one of the biggest weight cutters in lightweight history, walking around 190 pounds very regularly. 725k over 7 years might sound decent, but he is going to have long term physical and probably mental ramifications. The guy has already aged a ton in 7 years. He also will have next to no transferrable skills. Everyone says open a gym or coach, but name a single successful coach who use to be a high level MMA fighter. He could be a wrestling coach at a high school or college, but he will probably fight well into his 30s until he breaks physically.
Unless you are an extremely exiting fighter who can get lots of bonuses, or be a dominant champion(winning the title doesn't mean you are rich by any means) then its not worth it financially. Even if you make lots of money, you will be broken physically or have brain damage.
You cared enough to reply assholewho fucking cares?