PFL vs Bellator

KnockoutArtist said:
And who did Kasanganay defend TDs and show good get-ups against that had a good grappling pedigree?

You rubbish Eblen's wrestling against all his opponent's because they were "old, no technique, not althletic enough" (every excuse in the book), but then Kasanganay doesn't have to be held to the same level of standards.
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I don't believe it is a coincidence that Eblen suddenly not being able to hit a single takedown just so happened to coincide with facing the only opponent he has ever fought who was not at a big deficit in athleticism, technique, and/or out of their fighting prime. His last fight was tied on the scorecards headed into the third round and he was fighting an ultra low volume kicker.

Paying massive juice on a fighter with all of those red flags is extremely ill advised imo.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
I don't believe it is a coincidence that Eblen suddenly not being able to hit a single takedown just so happened to coincide with facing the only opponent he has ever fought who was not at a big deficit in athleticism, technique, and/or out of their fighting prime. His last fight was tied on the scorecards headed into the third round and he was fighting an ultra low volume kicker.

Paying massive juice on a fighter with all of those red flags is extremely ill advised imo.
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You're using that logic to talk about betting on Kasanganay though, not passing on Eblen.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
Yeah, because he is great value at +375, for the reasons I outlined in my last 2 posts.
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And secondly do you think this king is losing:



This dude is, and has, been manifesting undisputed champion of the world realisation for some time now.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
No they weren't lmao.


I'm glad looking at the dude on IG gives you the feels but no one cares.
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You said Eblen's wrestling is not reliable because it's only been effective vs "old fighters, unathletic fighters and fighter's with no technique"; you then say Kasanganay has shown good TDD and get-ups recently, even though it has all been against equally irrelevant competition (like apparently Eblen's), and use it as a reason to bet on the can (Kasanganay).

I just hope you're not a betting square, like you are a logic square.
 
lefontes said:
Pitbull as even?
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It's the clear right side. But Pitbull has had 3 flat performances in a row, barely scraping by Erbst on the feet, getting embarrassed by Pettis, and getting caught by Chihiro in a short notice fight.

Braga is a competent young fighter with very good wins over Pinedo and Wade, and is coming in 11 years younger.

2021 Pitbull would be like -300 here. Pitbull should get it done, but there's a lot of unknowns on Braga's ceiling.
 
KnockoutArtist said:
You said Eblen's wrestling is not reliable because it's only been effective vs "old fighters, unathletic fighters and fighter's with no technique"; you then say Kasanganay has shown good TDD and get-ups recently, even though it has all been against equally irrelevant competition (like apparently Eblen's), and use it as a reason to bet on the can (Kasanganay).

I just hope you're not a betting square, like you are a logic square.
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Eblen spending shittons of money on onlyfans whores is enough reason to fade him at this price.
 
KnockoutArtist said:
And secondly do you think this king is losing:



This dude is, and has, been manifesting undisputed champion of the world realisation for some time now.
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Likely overspending and spoiling some Only Fans THOT with fake everything. Not nearly the flex you think it is.
 
I'm hoping Bovada has live betting for this one. Some of these matchups are hard to call. I do like Collard/McKee to go the distance a lot though.
 
KnockoutArtist said:
And secondly do you think this king is losing:



This dude is, and has, been manifesting undisputed champion of the world realisation for some time now.
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Typical trashy, low impulse control behavior that will end up completely blowing up in his face, probably in less than 5 years when his career will start to wind down. He doesn't have the star power or the money to casually blow 85k in a day like he's Floyd Mayweather. Hell, Mayweather might not even be able to live like Mayweather, if the constant rumors about him being broke is true, and Elben is several stratospheres below that kind of money making opportunities.


lefontes said:
Pitbull as even?
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I only bet $50 on the under 2.5 @+201. That last fight should be very worrying for a Pitbull bettors. Maybe it's just one of those anomaly punches and his opponent did look a full weight class bigger, but he got wobbled by a pretty weak looking glancing blow that seemed to be mostly blocked by his gloves, then got ko'd cold by the follow up punches. Slo-mo about 4:58-5:05.


 
BigDramaShow26 said:
I'm hoping Bovada has live betting for this one. Some of these matchups are hard to call. I do like Collard/McKee to go the distance a lot though.
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interesting. why? mckee is a guy who is always looking for the finish, and collard is a guy who moves forward. at +145 it seems ending itd is the right side.
 
MidgardSerpent said:
Typical trashy, low impulse control behavior that will end up completely blowing up in his face, probably in less than 5 years when his career will start to wind down. He doesn't have the star power or the money to casually blow 85k in a day like he's Floyd Mayweather. Hell, Mayweather might not even be able to live like Mayweather, if the constant rumors about him being broke is true, and Elben is several stratospheres below that kind of money making opportunities.



I only bet $50 on the under 2.5 @+201. That last fight should be very worrying for a Pitbull bettors. Maybe it's just one of those anomaly punches and his opponent did look a full weight class bigger, but he got wobbled by a pretty weak looking glancing blow that seemed to be mostly blocked by his gloves, then got ko'd cold by the follow up punches. Slo-mo about 4:58-5:05.


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fight cancelled. braga not cleared to fight.
 
KnockoutArtist said:
And who did Kasanganay defend TDs and show good get-ups against that had a good grappling pedigree?

You rubbish Eblen's wrestling against all his opponent's because they were "old, no technique, not althletic enough" (every excuse in the book), but then Kasanganay doesn't have to be held to the same level of standards.
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He did decent against Raimond Magomedaliev, he got up several times and scored cage reversals, and stuffed a few takedowns.


This fight has a mirrored aspect to the fight between Jason Jackson vs Amosov

Everyone was saying Jason had no chance, truth is grappling hits a wall eventually in the higher ups competition, Johnny is going to find out eventually that you can't get away with average standup in 2024, and he's not a crazy submission specialist.

I'm on team Impa as well.
 
Any reason why so many people seem so confident in Thiago? I feel like at worst this will be a fight where Romero will have enough big moments to nab at least two rounds.

Thiago's coming off a PED suspension, looked very tentative to end his UFC tenure and things didn't look much better to begin his PFL run, even if he did go the distance with an equally juiced Wilkinson last time out. Romero is still pretty damn durable and showed he can still pick up highlight reel finishes when matched with non-elite competition, which I think a 40yo Santos fits at this point.
 
Thesnake101 said:
Any reason why so many people seem so confident in Thiago? I feel like at worst this will be a fight where Romero will have enough big moments to nab at least two rounds.

Thiago's coming off a PED suspension, looked very tentative to end his UFC tenure and things didn't look much better to begin his PFL run, even if he did go the distance with an equally juiced Wilkinson last time out. Romero is still pretty damn durable and showed he can still pick up highlight reel finishes when matched with non-elite competition, which I think a 40yo Santos fits at this point.
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the fight is at 205 tho, this is Santo's natural weight, I agree with most what you said, i have Thiago on a small sprinkle hail marry, i can appreciate his value at 100+
 
Stat_Collector said:
the fight is at 205 tho, this is Santo's natural weight, I agree with most what you said, i have Thiago on a small sprinkle hail marry, i can appreciate his value at 100+
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If it was Yoel's first foray into 205 I'd understand, but I don't really feel like it'll make a difference at this point tbh.

Romero by KO at +500 is also outrageous imo. That's his likeliest path to victory I think.
 
I have no confidence in Santos post double-knee surgery. That being said, Romero's old as fuck. Hard pass.
 
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