What's this about Jordan and getting his dad killed???
Phil Mickelson / PGA / Saudi Tour
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What's this about Jordan and getting his dad killed???
Phil did Phil things and opened his mouth
Charl Swatzel (sp) won like $4.7m in the weekend.. The winner of the FedEx Cup won $18m last year.. Rory McIlroy just won the RBC Canadian Open and won $1.6m. Rory played an extra day and arguably, had a harder strength of schedule.
Might be a bit early, but a lot of these opposition leagues are like billionaires play things. Like the Americas Cup. You don't do it for the money and it's almost always a loss making proposition and you're doing it to say you can do it. When you're sick of it, you shut up shop. What happens to the players then? Dunno how people can keep losing $50m a week just to prove a point.
The tour should pay for accomo but not even sure the players want that. They like saying they're "independent contractors" and that comes with the territory.
Look at the flak that Wimbledon is getting because Russian players can't play. Players are considering skipping.
OWGR is going to be interesting because they probably not ready to set up points structures
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Re raising the purses, you dont have to do that when you're a monopoly, which is what this is really about - a challenge to the PGA tour market power and in response the tour commissioner going full draconian stooge. Cant wait for the antitrust litigation to start. The commissioner just did an interview on CBS with Jim Nantz pretty much admitting it has nothing to do with blood money, as they granted an exemption for an event in Saudia Arabia not too long ago and he said the morality of the money was not at issue. He said it was about Saudis launching a tour on US soil and used cryptic language about the breakaway tour being successful off the backs of the PGA members.
Sounds like anti-competition from a monopoly to me. Cant support that shit, even if it is blood money. Comissioner is an idiot for giving that interview, clearly didnt talk to his lawyers about this beforehand or disregarded their advice.
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The theory is that Jordan had unpaid debts and in retaliation, the bookie had his dad killled or something like that.
That can't be real. Sounds like a urban legend/conspiracy theory
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Oh. I agree. It’s just what I’ve heard also.
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Hey thanks for quoting recent finishes... none of those guys are even remotely top odds at any tournament on the PGA going forward though.
All that said, there's apparently a wave of guys like Casey and Rose that'll go to LIV after the Open and then possibly another group that'll go after the Fedex.
People cheering this on as if the PGA is some terrible, monopolistic terror organization are stupid - period. None of this is ultimately good for the fans. The PGA might push some unfortunate rules like controlling the player's content and not allowing shorts but they disburse a significant chunk of total revenue to the overall purses throughout the season. What the Saudi's are doing is manipulating the economics into something golf is not.
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Lmfao this is some f tier logic “they don’t have high odds so they have no chance of winning a tournament, even though they didn’t have high odds when they just recently won tournaments.” Golf has more mid ranked guys win tournaments than any other sport.
pga shouldn’t be worried about those guys though because they aren’t big draws, not because they’re not good players.
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You didn't rebut my point
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Na I just reinforced your point that you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about lmao.
That's the thing about the tour though... The fields are so big you can get a no name that can win if they putt lights out for 4 days. Rory McIlroy just won #21 in his career. He's been around for over 10 years.. You'd think as a favourite every week, he'd probably have won more when you consider there's probably a tournament every week or so.
I can see Casey going. He already gave up his European Tour card once. Rosie is probably on the down side of his career too.
The PGA Tour has totally botched their strategy towards LIV every step of the way. They took the moral high ground like their money is completely clean. They hide behind their non-profit tax exempt status like they are the arbiters of righteousness while printing heaps of money. They also assumed that the majors, which are independent entities, would lock out LIV players with no questions asked. The PGA Tour should have been treating LIV like an existential crisis towards their business and not some kind of competition to see whose conscience is cleaner. They knew the whole time that the checks from the Saudis would clear.
It's the Trump Effect. By covering, acknowledging, and mocking LIV non stop, they fed the beast which they hate with so much passion. The PGA Tour, their media lackeys, and the "loyal" players treated LIV like some kind of joke and now the joke is on them.
And now, with rumors of the Saudis buying the DP World Tour, things get really interesting. If the sale goes through, Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour will have no choice but to sit at a table with Greg Norman and LIV to establish some sort or working relationship. LIV already bankrolls the Asian Tour so what is to stop them from buying other feeder leagues like the Japan Tour or the Sunshine Tour? LIV keeps gaining leverage with each passing day and the PGA Tour will be left on an island if they don't play ball.
It's the Trump Effect. By covering, acknowledging, and mocking LIV non stop, they fed the beast which they hate with so much passion. The PGA Tour, their media lackeys, and the "loyal" players treated LIV like some kind of joke and now the joke is on them.
And now, with rumors of the Saudis buying the DP World Tour, things get really interesting. If the sale goes through, Jay Monahan and the PGA Tour will have no choice but to sit at a table with Greg Norman and LIV to establish some sort or working relationship. LIV already bankrolls the Asian Tour so what is to stop them from buying other feeder leagues like the Japan Tour or the Sunshine Tour? LIV keeps gaining leverage with each passing day and the PGA Tour will be left on an island if they don't play ball.
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Everyone talks but money walks. We've already seen a lot of players go back on their word. If any of the PGA's 4 golden boys (Rory, JT, Rahm, Spieth) breaks rank, all hell breaks loose. Rahm talks a lot but keep in mind that he has a very close relationship with Phil. He has never said one bad word about Phil despite the media baiting him to do it over and over again.
With how deep the LIV roster already is and how much deeper it's going be as they keep signing more players, it will only be a matter of time before an active LIV player wins a major here and there further adding credibility to their brand.
With how deep the LIV roster already is and how much deeper it's going be as they keep signing more players, it will only be a matter of time before an active LIV player wins a major here and there further adding credibility to their brand.
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The PGA is a complete joke on this. Their entire ire is directed because they see this as a legit threat. All this BS about it being backed by saudis and human rights concern is blantant hypocrisy. PGA started a Chinese tour, plus allowed 20 players to play for a one off event in February in Saudi Arabia held by the same LIV backers. What the PGA is really triggered over is: No cuts, guaranteed money, signing bonus, individual earnings, and team earnings coupled with less rounds and stops means players could make more money with less golf. PGA 420 million across 47 events; LIV 250 million across 11. Why the fuck wouldn't pros want in on that? Now with the big rumour that Brooks Koepka, Collin Morikawa, Viktor Hovland and Xander Schauffele will announce they are jumping ship next week and Bryson and Reed already playing the inaugural US stop, get ready for ULTRA PGA RAGE.
