Elections Republican house: no border deal till trump or republican president

[Super_Nintendo]

Can't handle mean comments?

 

[Jack V Savage]

It’s not really a mystery, imo. A large percentage of people would rather have no government than let democrats have any say at all in policy.

I can sympathize (usually as it applies to republicans), but I wouldn’t go so far as to discount the concerns of half the country just because I disagree. Unfortunately, some of us seem to have lost the ability to accept any kind of compromise. That’s why Trump’s pure authoritarian platform is so appealing, I guess.

This is where a parliamentary system might be better. Our system does more to encourage bipartisanship, which is great most of the time. But when it's just not happening, you can get gridlock with a needed resolution but no clear path to one. I think if people would chill out a bit, they'd get that we'd all be better off letting one party win decisively and enact the policies it thinks are best, and then letting the voters judge the results of that process and change policies as they see fit. But people think in apocalyptic terms--if the other party enacts X, we're all going to die!--and so we don't really get experimentation, and politics is always these brutal struggles. I can kind of sympathize on some policies--like Republicans correctly feared that if the ACA passed, it would be effective and then become too popular to reverse, and Democrats correctly feared that if Republicans took over the SCOTUS, they'd kill abortion rights, with other rights on the chopping block. But I think policy working and becoming too popular to reverse is good, and Republicans have paid a price for the Roe reversal, and we're seeing states make surprising moves to repair the situation--the system heals.

 

[Rod1]

I would probably get damn pretty far. Only morons think the border is secure because some of the illegals get caught.

No you wouldn't you would either drown if you go by river or get lost and die in the desert/mountains if you go that route.

If you go within walking distance of civilization you will get picked up fast by the border patrol.

There is a reason why drug dealers would rather risk getting their drugs through ports of entry rather than going through the wilderness.

 

[Streeter]

*serial killer murders someone*

serial killer: help me resuscitate them

person b: wtf. no.

serial killer: u don't care about people!


this goes for all sides. you don't negotiate with bad faith actors who spend years undermining you then pretending to care when it's to their advantage.

Pretty acurate analogy actually for Border issue.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

i wonder if we ever see sherdog democrats genuinely admit trump is better for the health and performance of the country. they can still hate him, but if they admit he's better at delivering results i won't rub it in or be mean.

 

[Mr Holmes]

No you wouldn't you would either drown if you go by river or get lost and die in the desert/mountains if you go that route.

If you go within walking distance of civilization you will get picked up fast by the border patrol.

There is a reason why drug dealers would rather risk getting their drugs through ports of entry rather than going through the wilderness.

No I wouldn't. There's plenty of video of people walking across the border illegally and unchallenged.

Edit, I just looked it up. There were estimated to be half a million "get aways" in 2022.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

seriously dembros, if you admit trump's better for the country come forward. no hate.

 

[Scerpi]

From a policy perspective he's definitely been successful. Obviously, Republicans will hate anything that comes from a Democratic POTUS and decry "communism" and "socialism" for anything passed but he's definitely passed a lot (Infrastructure, Innovation and competition act, CHIPs Act, Inflation and Reduction Act).

Hahahaha…. You mean trying to “fix” what the moron broke when he he took over by handing out more “free” money

The Inflation Reduction act that super charged inflation by flooding the economy with more money

And inflation is still twice what it was under Trump.

It’ll take a decade for undo the damage of hyperinflation

 

[Sinister]

It’s not really a mystery, imo. A large percentage of people would rather have no government than let democrats have any say at all in policy.

I can sympathize (usually as it applies to republicans), but I wouldn’t go so far as to discount the concerns of half the country just because I disagree. Unfortunately, some of us seem to have lost the ability to accept any kind of compromise. That’s why Trump’s pure authoritarian platform is so appealing, I guess.

There's a difference between disagreeing with reasonable concerns, and constantly having to answer for made-up rage triggers over and over again. You can tell when someone has genuine concerns because they dont just start harping conservative buzzwords at you with no substance behind them.

It's much harder to contend with the fact that things are changing, the Country is changing, and how far they're willing to go to preserve the comfortable identities theyve been sold through all this change. The frightening part is many are perfectly willing to sacrifice lives for it. They're like trying to reason with Begbie:



And in the very next part of that scene Renton jokingly said "Face it, it could have been wonderful"...in response Begbie threatened to kill him lol

 

[Jack V Savage]

seriously dembros, if you admit trump's better for the country come forward. no hate.

Not sure if you're joking, but note that net job growth in Trump's presidency was negative (and has come roaring back since he left), crime spiked during his presidency (and has fallen since he left), he left office in the midst of a national health crisis (which was fixed by his successor). Without even getting into his almost comical level of corruption and the embarrassment he was as head of state, he easily has the worst performance record of any president ever.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Hahahaha…. You mean trying to “fix” what the moron broke when he he took over by handing out more “free” money

The Inflation Reduction act that super charged inflation by flooding the economy with more money

And inflation is still twice what it was under Trump.

It’ll take a decade for undo the damage of hyperinflation

Even Joe Biden wishes he hadn’t called his signature law the Inflation Reduction Act: ‘I wish I hadn’t called it that because it has less to do with reducing inflation’ than other things​

Even Joe Biden wishes he hadn’t called his signature law the Inflation Reduction Act: ‘I wish I hadn’t called it that because it has less to do with reducing inflation’ than other things

Biden admitted to regrets over the name this week, while economists said it "was mostly other factors that have brought inflation down."

fortune.com

 

[Super_Nintendo]

@Sinister vote for trump. leave the side that's weakened and destabilized the country. trump's a shithead but he delivers.

do you want results or just talk? everyone's poorer under biden and will he destroy what's left if he gets another term.

 

[steveflynn]

Hahahaha…. You mean trying to “fix” what the moron broke when he he took over by handing out more “free” money

The Inflation Reduction act that super charged inflation by flooding the economy with more money

And inflation is still twice what it was under Trump.

It’ll take a decade for undo the damage of hyperinflation

Haha what ? Inflation (which has happened all around the world) was brought on by supply and demand issues caused by COVID and the COVID lockdowns. The inflation reduction act did not cause the inflation. I think that the inflation reduction act was good policy because it invested a lot of money in renewable energy and combating climate change. Also funny how you leave out that in 2023 wage growth surpassed inflation and, right now, inflation is at what it historically has been.

 

[steveflynn]

@Sinister vote for trump. leave the side that's weakened and destabilized the country. trump's a shithead but he delivers.

do you want results or just talk? everyone's poorer under biden and will he destroy what's left if he gets another term.

Um, there is record wealth right now in the country (both on a per capita basis and an absolute basis). To make that assertion is totally false. Absolutely nothing has been "destroyed" since 2020 in the USA. Are you even an American ? Just curious......

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Inflation (which has happened all around the world) was brought on by supply and demand issues caused by COVID and the COVID lockdowns.

The Great Reset. loved by democrats and establishment GOP.

get the globalists out. trump is a not a globalist.

 

[steveflynn]

Not sure if you're joking, but note that net job growth in Trump's presidency was negative (and has come roaring back since he left), crime spiked during his presidency (and has fallen since he left), he left office in the midst of a national health crisis (which was fixed by his successor). Without even getting into his almost comical level of corruption and the embarrassment he was as head of state, he easily has the worst performance record of any president ever.

There was a net decrease in jobs, there was a net decrease in manufacturing jobs, the trade deficit increased, life expectancy decreased by nearly three years, millions fewer people had health insurance, etc.

 

[steveflynn]

The Great Reset. loved by democrats and establishment GOP.

get the globalists out. trump is a not a globalist.

Trump is the very definition of a globalist. He has always been one.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Trump is the very definition of a globalist. He has always been one.

trump gave the globalists the middle finger right on their own turf lol

 

[steveflynn]

trump gave the globalists the middle finger right on their own turf lol

Lol, huh ? Gary Cohn was his economics advisor and Steven Mnuchin was his treasury secretary. Hell, Rex Tillserson was his Secretary of State for a while. You cannot get more "globalist" than this.

 

[Sinister]

@Sinister vote for trump. leave the side that's weakened and destabilized the country. trump's a shithead but he delivers.

do you want results or just talk? everyone's poorer under biden and will he destroy what's left if he gets another term.

I'm not joining your cult. Thanks anyway