Elections Republican house: no border deal till trump or republican president

[Scerpi]

Because border is already secure, only morons think you can easily enter the US through the border and not getting caught.

The issue is the loophole many immigrants got where they claim asylum and then are just released until their hearing, which of course they always miss.

Otherwise, the border is open

 

[HereticBD]

You should get on your knees when you pray like that.

Followed by...

Cue single individual weirdo calling Biden Genocide Joe and accompanying holier-than-thou comment.


Got that out of your system? OK

Trump still has zero pull among independents. Whether or not I lose my wager with you about his candidacy*, I am still quite confident he won't be president again on this plane of existence. Sure, people don't want to choose between Biden and Trump, but when it comes down to it, they will.

I don't give two shits about Biden, FTR, and just like in this country with Trudeau, he'd be doing the right thing for his constituents by getting the fuck out of the way of the real good his party can do with a different leader--and the real harm his party can help prevent--by stepping aside for someone else. Selfish cunts, both of them. But they are not the sole embodiment of their party, whether they see themselves in such a light or not.

Trump will lose against anyone competent because independents don't want him. MAGA gives no fucks so he's the candidate anyway.

Biden will only lose by shooting himself in the arse too many times. He should go because the line is fast approaching.

Same with Trudeau, who crossed that threshold some time ago. Having said that, they're both the lesser of two evils under the current circumstances, sadly, but it's that simple come election time. The parties they represent can do a lot of good (in relative terms) with or without them.


*as sad a message as that sends to the international community

LOL

 

[Rod1]

No I wouldn't. There's plenty of video of people walking across the border illegally and unchallenged.

Edit, I just looked it up. There were estimated to be half a million "get aways" in 2022.

Even if we take your number at face value, there were 2.2 million apprehensions so that puts your chances on less than 20%.

 

[Rod1]

Otherwise, the border is open

That's exactly what i said, the problem is asylum laws.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

I'm not joining your cult. Thanks anyway

assuming you're a liberal and not a woke socialist...it's not the early 2000s anymore and your party has left you. 2024 dems are equivalent to the george w bush era republicans that you hated.

vote GOP. who knows, party values can reverse again in 10+ years. you're allowed to leave, you're not forced to vote for people who abandoned their principles a long time ago.

 

[Sinister]

assuming you're a liberal and not a woke socialist...it's not the early 2000s anymore and your party has left you. 2024 dems are equivalent to the george w bush era republicans that you hated.

vote GOP. who knows, party values can reverse again in 10+ years. you're allowed to leave, you're not forced to vote for people who abandoned their principles a long time ago.

"Dont vote for people who compromised their principals, vote for people who have never had any!"

 

[Super_Nintendo]

"Dont vote for people who compromised their principals, vote for people who have never had any!"

you're allowed to hate donny with all your heart even if you vote for him. sometimes the better choice is someone you hate, and that's ok.

 

[Sinister]

you're allowed to hate donny with all your heart even if you vote for him. sometimes the better choice is someone you hate, and that's ok.

Definitely not the better choice in any facet.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

I do not trust the democratic party to actually fix the border problem.

Where were they as the border problem turned into a crisis?

Now, since Biden has an underwhelming approval rating, it seems to have come up on the democratic radar.

If it's bullshit for the republican side to refuse to help Joe out now, what do you call what the administration has been doing for the past 3 years?

You mean to tell me, that if something is broken or not working, that the president wants to try and fix it?


"I'll take No Shit Sherlock, for 1,000, Alex."

You are speaking out of both sides of your ass. Is it a crisis? If so, you should want it to be fixed instead of kicking the can down the road another year.

If you don't want it fixed now, then it must not be a very important issue for you lol?

Or is it just important when your team is in control? That would seem to be in line with republicans on the debt and deficit as well. Cry about it even when the budget deficit is reduced under a dem, then spend spend spend when a Republican is in office.

People see through the bullshit. Why do you think Trump is going to lose to a senile grandpa again? Dems don't even want to vote for Joe, but our alternative is a rapist that defrauded the United States and tried to overthrow an election.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

assuming you're a liberal and not a woke socialist...it's not the early 2000s anymore and your party has left you. 2024 dems are equivalent to the george w bush era republicans that you hated.

vote GOP. who knows, party values can reverse again in 10+ years. you're allowed to leave, you're not forced to vote for people who abandoned their principles a long time ago.

As a guy that voted for Bush I don't think you really thought this through. What you're really saying is that current Republicans are being led by a group so radical they make normal Republicans look like Democrats in comparison.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

you're allowed to hate donny with all your heart even if you vote for him. sometimes the better choice is someone you hate, and that's ok.

You're allowed to love Donny as much as you like. You just won't be able to vote for him...

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Definitely not the better choice in any facet.

you a communist? huh? how'd you like it, man? they tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel. do you wanna be like a sheep? like all those other people? baah! baah! you wanna work eight, ten fucking hours? you own nothing, you got nothing! do you want a chivato on every corner looking after you? watching everything you do? everything you say, man? do you know I eat octopus three times a day? i got fucking octopus coming out of my fucking ears. i got the fuckin' russian shoes my feet's comin' through. how you like that?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

The deals the Democrats will approve suck. With that bit of knowledge, it makes sense for the Republicans to wait as it projects they will have the House, Senate, and Presidency going into 2025. No one wants another Democratic Party border policy.

Yes, the Republicans' plans are always infallible.

Maybe they should send in MTG to negotiate a deal



Who could forget Trump promising for Mexico to fund the wall



Or how about when Cheeto Chief promised that COVID was going to be exterminated within weeks of hitting the US

 

[Sinister]

you a communist? huh? how'd you like it, man? they tell you all the time what to do, what to think, what to feel. do you wanna be like a sheep? like all those other people? baah! baah! you wanna work eight, ten fucking hours? you own nothing, you got nothing! do you want a chivato on every corner looking after you? watching everything you do? everything you say, man? do you know I eat octopus three times a day? i got fucking octopus coming out of my fucking ears. i got the fuckin' russian shoes my feet's comin' through. how you like that?

You mean like the right wing nutjobs I have to worry about who have appointed themselves "election security" who wanna know how Im voting? Yeah that definitely sucks. I'll make sure and never vote for anyone who convinced them that kinda sh*t is necessary.

 

[Joe]

That's exactly what i said, the problem is asylum laws.

one thing about the right. As much as they like to scream about immigration. They have no clue how immigration laws work.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

You mean like the right wing nutjobs I have to worry about who have appointed themselves "election security" who wanna know how Im voting? Yeah that definitely sucks. I'll make sure and never vote for anyone who convinced them that kinda sh*t is necessary.

who said that?

 

[Darkballs]

Otherwise, the border is open

Yup. We can't process them in a timely fashion. Democrats just proposed a bill, that in addition to more border patrol agents, we'd add a shit ton of funds to process (and thus deny those who didn't warrant an extended stay) more at the border. But republicans refused to even vote on it.

That's stupid. Even if republicans wanted more, they could easily pass the bill tomorrow and argue that the fight ain't over yet, as the job isn't finished. And if this is the emergency they claim it is, there is no excuse for not passing something now, while drawing up whatever they want for a vote as soon as possible.

But they won't do that. Which tells everyone this is all false outrage. Republicans want to run on the border. They don't wan't to actually do anything though.

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Definitely not the better choice in any facet.

Well, if you like paying more for everything and arguing on a karate forum about who is responsible for all of the new wars around the globe that keep popping up, then more power to you.

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

one thing about the right. As much as they like to scream about immigration. They have no clue how immigration laws work.

At least they are not afraid to point out that too much is too much.

Hell, even the Democrats running the "sanctuary" cities are saying this now.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Yup. We can't process them in a timely fashion. Democrats just proposed a bill, that in addition to more border patrol agents, we'd add a shit ton of funds to process (and thus deny those who didn't warrant an extended stay) more at the border. But republicans refused to even vote on it.

That's stupid. Even if republicans wanted more, they could easily pass the bill tomorrow and argue that the fight ain't over yet, as the job isn't finished. And if this is the emergency they claim it is, there is no excuse for not passing something now, while drawing up whatever they want for a vote as soon as possible.

But they won't do that. Which tells everyone this is all false outrage. Republicans want to run on the border. They don't wan't to actually do anything though.

classic DARVO from the left, except there's a phony "plea for help" added between Attack and Reverse.

why don't you hold the open border/illegal migrant fetishists responsible for this instead of the innocent bystanders being pressured to cover up this mess?