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Trickling? The fanbase has expanded/shifted to a bunch of fucking dorks since TUF came out.
Loooool
The highest paying sport gets the best athletes.
MMA isn't close. No need to try so hard to be the dissenter, contrarianism is a failed endeavour.
... UFC should pay as little as possible until people start choosing other jobs over MMA. ...
You sir are hardcoreI bought nearly every single pay per view from ufc 75 to 180 and have purchased pay per views here and there since then.
"I made up this generalization about hardcore fans, that has no backing in any data. I also completely made up the premise that in order to care about fighter pay, you must purchase pay per views. Checkmate"
Yeah man you really got me with that premise you made up, that isn't sound reasoning.
IF you care about fighter pay
THEN you must purchase pay per views
The premise does not necessitate this conclusion. It does not logically follow. It's just a faulty premise you made up. And it has no bearing on anything I said in the op.
fuck off, so a shitty fighter who cant win a fight should be paid $150k a year....get to fuck mateNo one should be making less than $50/$50. This includes the guys in ONE and PFLellator (deal with it :^]).
Other than that, I don't care too much. It seems like a tough industry to stay afloat in considering all of the absolute FAILURES of companies that have come and gone. Tired of the disingenuous retards who argue like ONE or Bellator pay any better when many official purses are posted - and it's garbage. Only ex-UFC fighters get a decent check. Disgraceful. Some guys get a hate boner for Dana, I get it, but Chatri is a POS himself and Coker is incompetent (but he's nice at least, but that doesn't pay the bills).
Your assertion fails because triathletes and mma fighters are among the best athletes in human history.
Furthermore, triathletes and fighters have no compulsion to compete in professional sports. They can just be great because they like doing a sport so they get good at it.
Professional athlete compensation can be entirely unrelated to developed skill level.
UFC gets the best MMA athletes and has for at least 15 years.
Thousands want a UFC contract. Thousands more don't want to compete at all.
Major league baseball definitely does not consistently "get the best athletes."
Lots of holes in your assertion.
The remainder is ad hominem attack, which is fallacy.
Fallacy is the tool of the fool and has been for 2000 years.
If the purse fits...
Hardcore fans of this sport have historically always cared about fighter pay and treatment.
And it's pretty self evident as to why -
If you're a hardcore fan of this sport, you tend to enjoy some of the finer things and intricacies about it. Something about it has pulled you in, above and beyond the level of a casual.
Maybe it's the sacrifices that fighters make, maybe it's the courage displayed in the heat of battle (heart), maybe its a combination of that stuff and other things, but something has pulled you in. And when you have a high degree of appreciation and respect for what fighters go through, it's both emotionally and intellectually logical to want to see said fighters compensated and treated appropriately.
It is plainly, and self evidently, casual fans of the sport that don't give a shit about fighter pay. They want to see blood and violence. They want to see roided up gorillas swinging wildly until one goes down. Their engagement with the sport starts and stops with the entertainment provided by violence that is momentarily flashing on their screens. Of course when that is the extent of your engagement with the sport, it's completely reasonable to not give a fuck about fighter pay.
So can someone explain to me why the fuck there is a large minority of people within the hardcore Fandom that shit on people concerned about fighter pay? Often, these people don't even attempt to make an argument about whether or not fighter pay is good - they shit on the very idea of giving a fuck about fighter pay and treatment.
Here you are, posting on an obscure karate message board that has been around since the 90s, that is dedicated to the 24/7 365 discussion of mma and martial arts, talking about "why do you give a shit about what another man is paid?" Or "he's not gonna send you a check bro"
Like....BRUH
Do you hear yourself??
Have a look around you.
Look at where you are.
Have a moment of self awareness for the first time in your life.
Motherfuckers are really out here posting 5 McGregor threads a day on a 25 year old karate message board asking "why do you care about fighter pay?"
IDK MAN - maybe because my appreciation of the fighters goes beyond "hurrr durrr sweaty muscle man goes brrrr" *clapping monkey noises*
Do you not realize what a fuckin weirdo you are for being a hardcore fan of this sport and NOT caring about fighter pay? You are a freakish anomaly and should be regarded as such.
If he's a shitty fighter that can't win a fight he won't be in bellator, or one, or anywhere else.fuck off, so a shitty fighter who cant win a fight should be paid $150k a year....get to fuck mate
sounds like you are one of these people who celebrate mediocrity and everyone getting a medalIf he's a shitty fighter that can't win a fight he won't be in bellator, or one, or anywhere else.
I really wonder what is the age and profession of the guy you are replying to. In no universe does an unknown prelim filler have a floor value per year of 150K just for showing up, nor a value of 300K per year for beating 3 other unknown prelim fillers.fuck off, so a shitty fighter who cant win a fight should be paid $150k a year....get to fuck mate
Low level fighters were quite happy to sign that contract. Per year it means 50K+ guaranteed and 100K+ if they win? It allows 20 something year olds to pursue their passion and dreams.You must not know what most of these fighters get paid. How about "fighting 3x a year for $18000"?
Yeah, keep using that original insult. Christ on a cross...You must be collecting social assistance and living in your mom's basement.
its got nothing to do with business, its about what people are worthI really wonder what is the age and profession of the guy you are replying to. In no universe does an unknown prelim filler have a floor value per year of 150K just for showing up, nor a value of 300K per year for beating 3 other unknown prelim fillers.
These guys have no sense for business at all it's embarrassing.
I didn’t tell you anything of the sort.They don't give a fuck what any of us make sir, but they're not watching do our jobs.
People care because they get attached to certain fighters and then realize they're taking Dana's dick in their ass.
That upsets some people.
The fuckin bonuses have been the same for like 15 years ffs.
Are you saying that the UFC can't afford better bonuses at least?
Yeah some fighters get some money, but more fighters get fucked over.
And yes they sign the contract, but it's not like they have many places to turn to since the UFC has bought out 95% of the competition.
There's issues with the system, and it should be corrected.
You're telling me Dana (who's never fought a day in his life) should be worth a half a billion, and guys fighting to put food on the table barely make ends meet?
Its fucky at best.