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UFN 108 - Swanson vs Lobov - Nashville

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  1. iGnP Silver Belt

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    wasnt Perry only inactive in his last fight? or is it a recurring issue
     
  2. Antagonist88 Green Belt

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    Diego is a new fighter, the Lauzon fight changed him. He is going to look to wrestle and grind a lot more than he used to now, because he realized that he can't keep taking shots.

    Unfortunately, this "new" Diego isn't necessarily a better fighter. And if he can't get the takedowns then he will be in trouble
     
  3. NorthernLights Blue Belt

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    A lot of assumptions right there...
     
  4. Jamah Green Belt

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    I'll be on Perry ITD if I can get good odds. Jake is done
     
  5. MMA Gambling Expert #1 Banned

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    Not a chance, get ready for him to be like -200
     
  6. Jamah Green Belt

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    Please no... I still have hope, because Bryan is very underrated and he has been the underdog in all his ufc fights
     
  7. MMA Gambling Expert #1 Banned

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    I disagree, Diego is the same guy he's always been, the Held fight was just a combination of the right circumstances. Held was a good style match up for Diego and the altitude in Mexico city favoured Diego heavily in that fight. Diego is a much better wrestler defensively than offensively, I don't think he'll take Iaquinta down.

    I wanted to bet Diego in this fight cause he's such a big dog and I know Al Iaquinta is coming off a layoff, injury and the contract issues. But Diego looks like he has his own problems, seemed a lot healthier heading into the Held fight.
     
  8. MMA Gambling Expert #1 Banned

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    That's true but Proctor hasn't fought in over a year and coming off a first round tko loss. Barberena's W over Alves was a statement, his stock went up that night but of course he was still a dog vs a top prospect like Covington. Proctor has never beaten anyone good, I just can't see him being favoured over Barberena unfortunately.
     
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    This could be another tough card apart from Swanson to win. I think Ortiz will get the best of Moreno, Perry over Ellenberger, and Leites beats Alvey.
     
  10. trucido Blue Belt

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    You're right, he could definitely stay on the outside and outpoint Leites, I need to watch tape but I think Leites will have better striking and much better grappling. Alvey is very low output too and I just have no confidence in him winning.
     
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    leites has much better bjj but are his takedowns really that great? he looked miserable trying to take down jotko. he took down camozzi easily but chris has a gaping hole in that area of his game.

    i can see this fight playing out on the feet and i really have no idea who wins it. alvey's output is diabolical and leites looks to land bombs.
     
  12. iGnP Silver Belt

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    I agree w all this
     
  13. MMA Gambling Expert #1 Banned

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    Usually I say the odds are easy to predict and they are but I'm seeing a lot of tricky match ups on this card, several fights that have got me curious as to where the odds should be, can see there being a lot of tight lines.
     
  14. edole Brown Belt

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    I love this card.
     
  15. AmericanBeauty Blue Belt

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    Call me crazy guys but i think Lobov takes it.
     
  16. trucido Blue Belt

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    Rewatched Leites vs Jotko; Leites did land some decent TDDs in rd 1 and early rd 2, but with Jotko's grappling being quite decent he was able to reverse Leites in some positions and ended up on top, especially in rd where Leites began to gas and couldn't get Jotko off him. I don't think this will be the case vs Alvey, I reckon Leites will be able to get Alvey down at some point and I don't think he has the skills to get back up. Once Leites lands a TDD and is on top for a little while Alvey will slow down severely. I think Leites could finish this in late rd 2 or 3. Hoping the odds are fairly tight.

    Also FWIW Jotko is a young, hungry, up and comer approaching his prime, I think he will be top 5 within the next year or so. Compare that to Alvey, even though he's only 30 he's lacks serious athleticism and has shown he's a one dimensional fighter who looks to defend TDD's and bang.
     
  17. trucido Blue Belt

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    I have this really weird gut feeling that Lobov will get the knockout at some point even though I think it's very very unlikely.
     
  18. mkess101 Not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs

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    He has a puncher's chance, and that's it. Cub is significantly better in EVERY area of MMA. The two thing you can clearly say are positives for Lobov are that he has power and that he (evidently) has good sub defense (surviving that long with Ryan Hall on your back isn't easy). Otherwise Cub is just light years better. BUT...

    ...to be fair I think the fact that Cub was in one of the 5 most brutal wars in MMA history in his last fight has to be taken into account. The brain doesn't recover easily from that type of trauma. IF Artov can land flush I don't think it's as much a given that Cub's chin holds up in this fight than we could normally expect. If Lobov KO is at really juicy odds I may take a small stab. But it will need to be very enticing.
     
  19. NinjaCat456 Green Belt

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    Has he got that much power? He's never really put anyone out in his whole career, big ask for him to do it now against a guy who's only been KO'd once in 31 fights, and that was to a prime José Aldo.

    But you're right, Cub's got a lot of miles on the clock now and we certainly see some crazy shit in mma. For me Lobov would need to get to something silly like +600 to have a little play on him though. Cub pretty much already unplayable at -600.
     
  20. ChoKuRei Purple Belt Platinum Member

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    Artem got dropped by teruto ishihara dont ride those nuts boys unless you want to just get rid of that money
     
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