UFN 120 - Poirier vs Pettis - Virginia

[quincy k]

I mean. I'd probably write a similar thing about Anthony Johnson, but yeah. Dodson chose not to get into a swinging-match with Lineker since that's a dumb fucking thing to do.

who said anyhting about wild swinging match?

dodson has some of the best footwork in the division and arguably throws the best straight left, the same straight left that busted up the hook-dependand lineker. the straight left or right gets there faster than the hook.

go watch the dillishaw lineker fight and youll see how easy it is for a guy with good footwork and accurate solid punching to easily dismantle lineker who suffered a broken jaw in that fight. difference between dodson and tj is that dillishaw is a real fighter that will stand rght back in the pocket throwing shots after hes knocked down like in the grabradt fight while an athlete without a fighters mentality like dodson wont trade in the pocket even though he s never cleanly hit


dodsons a clown thats afraid of getting hit

this is the fight game. you get hit

 

[onC]

Considering your recent successes I'm just going to tail you on every bet...

And then blame you if I lose.

Remember; he's betting a number, not a side. Those prices are all long gone.

 

[betrayedlurker]

who said anyhting about wild swinging match?

dodson has some of the best footwork in the division and arguably throws the best straight left, the same straight left that busted up the hook-dependand lineker. the straight left or right gets there faster than the hook.

go watch the dillishaw lineker fight and youll see how easy it is for a guy with good footwork and accurate solid punching to easily dismantle lineker who suffered a broken jaw in that fight. difference between dodson and tj is that dillishaw is a real fighter that will stand rght back in the pocket throwing shots after hes knocked down like in the grabradt fight while an athlete without a fighters mentality like dodson wont trade in the pocket even though he s never cleanly hit


dodsons a clown thats afraid of getting hit

this is the fight game. you get hit

Dawg, TJ's takedown threat (best takedown in the division) made Lineker hesitant. Dodson didn't have the luxury of making Lineker hesitant so did the smart thing and countered from the outside, and arguably won.

There were also multiple moments in the fight where Dodson actually traded with Lineker in the pocket. I can't remember what round but they had a crazy phone booth exchange at one point.

Without the takedown threat Lineker would have been a much tougher fight for TJ. And IMO Cody wouldn't "school" him either. Cody loves to trade in the pocket and could easily get clipped.

 

[quincy k]

Dawg, TJ's takedown threat (best takedown in the division) made Lineker hesitant. Dodson didn't have the luxury of making Lineker hesitant so did the smart thing and countered from the outside, and arguably won.

There were also multiple moments in the fight where Dodson actually traded with Lineker in the pocket. I can't remember what round but they had a crazy phone booth exchange at one point.

Without the takedown threat Lineker would have been a much tougher fight for TJ. And IMO Cody wouldn't "school" him either. Cody loves to trade in the pocket and could easily get clipped.

cody throws the straight right, similar to dodson straight left, but with more precision, power and speed. imo, dodson lost the lineker fight because he ran the majority of the fight, it was very similar to canelo lara except that alvarez actually landed four great body shots in the third and fourth round to justify laras running, to that point erislandry being the superior fighter

john dodson...that mutherfuker just ran.

like is said, its the fight game, youre going to get hit in order to land and dodsons amatuer style(point fighting) is not suited for the pros

 

[betrayedlurker]

Dawg, TJ's takedown threat (best takedown in the division) made Lineker hesitant. Dodson didn't have the luxury of making Lineker hesitant so did the smart thing and countered from the outside, and arguably won.

There were also multiple moments in the fight where Dodson actually traded with Lineker in the pocket. I can't remember what round but they had a crazy phone booth exchange at one point.

Without the takedown threat Lineker would have been a much tougher fight for TJ. And IMO Cody wouldn't "school" him either. Cody loves to trade in the pocket and could easily get clipped.

Not to mention that Dodson landed a perfect, flush head kick on Lineker's jaw and he just smiled at it.

 

[betrayedlurker]

cody throws the straight right, similar to dodson straight left, but with more precision, power and speed. imo, dodson lost the lineker fight because he ran the majority of the fight, it was very similar to canelo lara except that alvarez actually landed four great body shots in the third and fourth round to justify laras running, to that point the far superior fighter

john dodson...that mutherfuker just ran.

like is said, its the fight game, youre going to get hit in order to land and dodsons amatuer style is not suited for the pros

So you would have preferred Dodson to... Trade in the pocket with Lineker? A KO loss would have satisfied you, a guy who bet on Dodson, more than a controversial decision loss?

 

[quincy k]

So you would have preferred Dodson to... Trade in the pocket with Lineker? A KO loss would have satisfied you, a guy who bet on Dodson, more than a controversial decision loss?

what?

its about giving your self a chance to win. dodson, like tj when he was kncoked down, needed to step into that pocket and fire that straight left that he was having success with instead of running. lmao dodson getting kod, what about lineker getting kod, who was getting the worst of the exchanges the majority of the fight?

this is the fight game, not checkers or chess, youre going to get hit

and there was nothing controversial about the decision when taking live betting into consideratioin as lineker was almost a -500 at the final bell.

 

[quincy k]

Not to mention that Dodson landed a perfect, flush head kick on Lineker's jaw and he just smiled at it.

so then you quit punching because linker took a shot?

do you follow boxing? apparantly not.

how many times does a guy claim that hes not hurt after getting caught with a shot and then is later kod?

 

[quincy k]

Not to mention that Dodson landed a perfect, flush head kick on Lineker's jaw and he just smiled at it.

heres chavez jr in the sixth round mocking fonfara, twice, as if hes not hurt only to get ktfo thee rounds later and sent to the hospital for a concussion

 

[betrayedlurker]

what?

its about giving your self a chance to win. dodson, like tj when he was kncoked down, needed to step into that pocket and fire that straight left that he was having success with instead of running. lmao dodson getting kod, what about lineker getting kod, who was getting the worst of the exchanges the majority of the fight?

this is the fight game, not checkers or chess, youre going to get hit

and there was nothing controversial about the decision when taking live betting into consideratioin as lineker was almost a -500 at the final bell.

Please stop with the boxing comparisons.

Dodson hit Lineker with everything but the kitchen sink, the guy has the best chin in MMA. He's never even been rocked and he's always dangerous if you trade in the pocket with him. Why do you think TJ fought on the outside ("ran") and used takedowns so much?

Dodson won the fight in my opinion, he threw like a third of Lineker's strikes and still landed more. Also landed the cleaner shots. Judges are just retarded sometimes and favour pressure over everything.

On another night, Dodson wins that decision. If Dodson fought like a retard and brawled with Lineker like you wanted him to for some reason, he might have got KO'd.

Also, bookies are horrible at pricing live lines, which is why it's free money in the UK. Dunham vs Benny to end in a draw was still like +2100 in the third round when it was clearly about to end in a draw.

 

[quincy k]

Please stop with the boxing comparisons.

Dodson hit Lineker with everything but the kitchen sink, the guy has the best chin in MMA. He's never even been rocked and he's always dangerous if you trade in the pocket with him. Why do you think TJ fought on the outside ("ran") and used takedowns so much?

Dodson won the fight in my opinion, he threw like a third of Lineker's strikes and still landed more. Also landed the cleaner shots. Judges are just retarded sometimes and favour pressure over everything.

On another night, Dodson wins that decision. If Dodson fought like a retard and brawled with Lineker like you wanted him to for some reason, he might have got KO'd.

Also, bookies are horrible at pricing live lines, which is why it's free money in the UK. Dunham vs Benny to end in a draw was still like +2100 in the third round when it was clearly about to end in a draw.

you dont compare boxing to mma? then why did gsp hire freddie roach to corner him when he fought bisping?

and because you step into the pocket and fire a straight left when lineker is throwing his right or left hook...thats not brawling and i have no idea why you would think that it is other than being a retard

and live betting at the end of a fight is not based on the bookies. its detemined by punters on both sides of the fight

 

[quincy k]

Please stop with the boxing comparisons.

Dodson hit Lineker with everything but the kitchen sink, the guy has the best chin in MMA. He's never even been rocked and he's always dangerous if you trade in the pocket with him. Why do you think TJ fought on the outside ("ran") and used takedowns so much?

Dodson won the fight in my opinion, he threw like a third of Lineker's strikes and still landed more. Also landed the cleaner shots. Judges are just retarded sometimes and favour pressure over everything.

On another night, Dodson wins that decision. If Dodson fought like a retard and brawled with Lineker like you wanted him to for some reason, he might have got KO'd.

Also, bookies are horrible at pricing live lines, which is why it's free money in the UK. Dunham vs Benny to end in a draw was still like +2100 in the third round when it was clearly about to end in a draw.

lmfao, how did tj dillishaw find the time to "run" while throwing over 80 punches a round?

 

[BatBoyJG]

This is a peculiar discussion

 

[Antagonist88]

lmfao, how did tj dillishaw find the time to "run" while throwing over 80 punches a round?

Did you... watch that fight? A very large amount of those punches occurred on the ground. TJ used primarily distance kicks on the feet.

I think you’re trolling but I can’t tell. At no point has anyone ever stood in the pocket with Lineker and won

 

[Gugabe]

Did you... watch that fight? A very large amount of those punches occurred on the ground. TJ used primarily distance kicks on the feet.

I think you’re trolling but I can’t tell. At no point has anyone ever stood in the pocket with Lineker and won

Exactly. Lineker's one of the few guys in the sport that standing-and-trading with is tactical suicide. Essentially him, the Diazes and Gaethje. Dodson fairly clearly won their fight to the educated eye, but trying to go blow-for-blow with Lineker, or even not just minimizing striking encounters, was always going to get him in deep shit. It's like Diaz-Condit. Sometimes you're better off pursuing the smart fight instead of wading into a specialist's arena.

 

[quincy k]

Did you... watch that fight? A very large amount of those punches occurred on the ground. TJ used primarily distance kicks on the feet.

I think you’re trolling but I can’t tell. At no point has anyone ever stood in the pocket with Lineker and won

are you saying that all dodosn strikes were from distance, a fight that he statistically and by physical damage, arguably won

like i said, i was on dodson and never thought that he won. you cant win a fight when the other guy is pressing forward and trying to make the fight while the other is trying to avoid the fight.

and my comment was that dillishaw and "ran" should never be in the same sentence when describing his fight with lineker

 

[Oblivian]

I think Dodson/Moraes is basically a coin flip. With that said, I don't think Moraes will win any other way besides decision. I'm not a big prop guy, but I'll probably look at Moraes via decision over anything else.

 

[quincy k]

I think Dodson/Moraes is basically a coin flip. With that said, I don't think Moraes will win any other way besides decision. I'm not a big prop guy, but I'll probably look at Moraes via decision over anything else.

unless dodson catches him with one clean shot or moraes has weak punch resistance john doesnt have the fighting style, output or pressure for the ko. hes like stephen thompson last weekend, perfectly content getting a decision win or decesion loss and not putting himself at risk of getting kod

cant see any reason on betting moraes ml when you might get twice the price on the decision line

 

[wack3d]

are you saying that all dodosn strikes were from distance, a fight that he statistically and by physical damage, arguably won

like i said, i was on dodson and never thought that he won. you cant win a fight when the other guy is pressing forward and trying to make the fight while the other is trying to avoid the fight.

and my comment was that dillishaw and "ran" should never be in the same sentence when describing his fight with lineker

sure you can we see it in boxing and mma all the time (lara/mayweather/condit vs diaz ect). preasure and control are only part of the scoring.. if the guy pressing the fight is getting beatup and outlanded surely he should not win the fight just becourse he walking forward and "making the fight"

 

[wack3d]

also Dodson vs Lineker was a coinflip imo just depends on what you like.. Lineker have the more eye catching style so he got the DEC