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Life is so short. If we postpone threads like that haha.Not sure if we've seen final product Usman yet. I'll come back to this thread when he's retired
Life is so short. If we postpone threads like that haha.Not sure if we've seen final product Usman yet. I'll come back to this thread when he's retired
That’s why I made a mention of it. I’m sure that would bother him in middle of the fight. Especially if he couldn’t immediately pop back up.
Impressive stat for sure. I still think a prime GSP would take him down multiple times if it was apart of his gameplan.
Jorge is a bit behind but its not that much of a reach.Masvidal is not equal to Jay Hieron. That is such a huge reach
Yet he has a better record then Jorge.Hieron said he’d had 10 months total boxing training in his life at the time of the GSP fight.
I think you greatly over estimate how evolved things were at that point in time.
Hieron was decent but a completely different fighter in the UFC with stricter drug testing. I thought he beat Askren tooJorge is a bit behind but its not that much of a reach.
Overall 35-14 Jorge is a .714 win rate.
Best win Darren Till. Worst Loss Raphael Assuncao. Yes that's right a BW!
Jay Heiron Overall is 23-7 .766 win rate.
Best win Jake Ellenberger. Worst Loss Brad Blackburn.
Jorge has lost to anyone who he fought that was elite. Beating Nate Diaz and getting two title shots from it doesn't mean he is elite. Lets see if he can baptize Usman and maybe defend it against anyone not named McGregor or Diaz.
I bet he gets foot stomped for another 5 rounds.
Usman has literally only had to defend a single takedown from an elite MMA wrestler (1 attempt from Woodley) in his entire career and that after 15 fights of experience.And he's certainly been tested. So if Prime GSP's gameplan revolves around taking someone down who has never been taken down before in the most wrestle-heavy division in the sport, I don't think it would be very wise. And we shouldn't count it as a certainty, since GSP is 70% on his takedown accuracy (while impressive, it's not as impressive as never being taken down imo).
If you replaced “lit up” with “arguably outpointed” then I might agree with you.
Usman never tried to take Colby down and vice versa. GSP is a vastly superior MMA wrestler than Colby. So if Usman is forced to stand with GSP he loses badly. Colby has no power whatsoever and terrible striking yet he was landing on Usman constantly. GSP breaks his face a'la Koscheck IMO.And he's certainly been tested. So if Prime GSP's gameplan revolves around taking someone down who has never been taken down before in the most wrestle-heavy division in the sport, I don't think it would be very wise. And we shouldn't count it as a certainty, since GSP is 70% on his takedown accuracy (while impressive, it's not as impressive as never being taken down imo).
thisThis is a nearly impossible fight for Usman to win. GSP is better everywhere
but at the same time, this as wellNot sure if we've seen final product Usman yet. I'll come back to this thread when he's retired
As soon as GSP starts to establish his jab and Usman starts thinking about it he gets dumped on his ass just to give him something else to worry about.GSP spanks him. It would primarily be a striking match up as both guys wrestling would likely cancel out. GSP has a good striking advantage here, better in every way. GSP would win a decision.
Usman is a very good fighter. If Georges came up at the same time as Usman he would be even better than he was in his prime. Georges came up at a time when people skills were not as good as today's fighters skills. People's skills got better because of Georges. Even as MMA evolved Georges evolved with it. This was another thing that made him great. Could Usman beat Georges? Who knows? I think the only real advantage Usman would have is size and strength. Georges probably fights as a lightweight in today's UFC.What round would GSP break marty’s orbital?
I say round 2
Hendricks juiced up would be a nightmare for pressure fighters like Usman. The question was about prime GSP and not the GSP that fought Hendricks.For all the people so confidently stating GSP would dominate that would also mean you also believe Hendricks wound beat Usman as well.
Hendricks juiced up would be a nightmare for pressure fighters like Usman. The question was about prime GSP and not the GSP that fought Hendricks.
nah I don't think he could keep him down, but a prime GSP could absolutely take him down. he's too good at mixing his double legs with his striking and timing them to catch guys off guard and he had the explosiveness and strength to drive through and finish them.A very close decision win for GSP. People saying 50-45 GSP are talking out of their asses. GSP struggled heavily to take down BJ, albeit prime BJ was incredible, but Usman is much bigger than BJ and weight matters a lot in wrestling.
GSP undoubtedly has the striking advantage but Usman hits a little harder and has an equal reach to Georges. His striking is improving every outing he has. Trains with an amazing coach in Trevor Whitman as a bonus.
As soon as GSP starts to establish his jab and Usman starts thinking about it he gets dumped on his ass just to give him something else to worry about.