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It’s really not. You’re a dear, stop being so hard on yourself.It’s honestly my fault I’m sorry.
It’s really not. You’re a dear, stop being so hard on yourself.It’s honestly my fault I’m sorry.
Do you not find it ironic that you would decry binary thinking after saying you are anti left because we are racist?This type of binary thinking is primitive as it is dangerous.
Just because I hate leftists doesn't mean I'm a fan of Trump.
Yeah, I tried, but sometimes some of his whoppers got through.Seriously? About Frederick Douglass?
I had to just tune Trump out man, I couldn’t even be bothered after a point. He is a disgrace on just another level.
States don’t exist because they have a right to they exist because of power and government. You said in the main thread you are well versed on this topic. This is a very basic right to exist argument.
This "it's the anti-racists who are the real racists" shtick has existed for as long as institutional racism. Hell, you can trace it back to Robert E. Lee.
Well, Jews as a people had a tough time existing, over and over and over again without a state of their own. So how do you reconcile a people's right to exist without a safe state to exist in?I don’t think any state deserves to exist but of course its people do.
You’re telling me...Jews having a safe space to exist in and that space having the right to exist are two different things.Well, Jews as a people had a tough time existing, over and over and over again without a state of their own. So how do you reconcile a people's right to exist without a safe state to exist in?
I’d say you can’t uncritically post tweets calling for the genocide of the Palestinian people and not be a little racist yourself but that’s just me.
Well, Jews as a people had a tough time existing, over and over and over again without a state of their own. So how do you reconcile a people's right to exist without a safe state to exist in?
Restate please. I don't get your meaning.You’re telling me...Jews having a safe space to exist in and that space having the right to exist are two different things.
The question is a trick. When one criticizes the policy of other nations the response is never about whether they deserve to exist. Why is that a question? They are with force committing acts of terrorism on innocent civilians and you ask me if their state has a right to exist?Bingo...
I see a lot of obfuscation and circuitous ways in answering a simple question
Do you disagree with anything I said?
In this instance its absolutely true. You can't cast judgment on a people because of their race and advocate racial segregation and not be racist
Well, Jews as a people had a tough time existing, over and over and over again without a state of their own. So how do you reconcile a people's right to exist without a safe state to exist in?
Okay, I thought you two would be aware of a right to exist argument. It has nothing to do with open borders, although separately I don't oppose the idea. What I am saying is the question of whether or not a state has a right to exist has nothing to do with the atrocities committed by Israel to the Palestinian people in their land. I am Jewish, my mother's side of the family are/were Polish Jews I am very aware of our history.Restate please. I don't get your meaning.
My point is that Jews as a people ended up on the endangered list precisely because they did not have a state of their own.
That doesn't make their ever increasing encroachment into Palestine anything other than despicable. The whole situation is a mess.
I'm just trying to understand how anyone, with any understanding of history, or human nature, can be for open borders.
The question is a trick. When one criticizes the policy of other nations the response is never about whether they deserve to exist. Why is that a question? They are with force committing acts of terrorism on innocent civilians and you ask me if their state has a right to exist?
I asked you if a people deserve to exist specifically because you posted a tweet that said they didn't, you in turn asked me about a state. Humans have the right to exist, states do not. If you are asking me if I think Israel should return its land to refugees the answer is yes.You asked me unequivocally if Palestinians deserve to exist. I said yes. I even advocate for a Palestinian state.
The reason why people ask, "does Israel have a right to exist " is because many of their foes say it dossnf...that its a rogue, terrorist state. And their enemies have made it clear as to what they want to do with Isreal..
This is why this question is asked, and its an important one
All of its land?I asked you if a people deserve to exist specifically because you posted a tweet that said they didn't, you in turn asked me about a state. Humans have the right to exist, states do not. If you are asking me if I think Israel should return its land to refugees the answer is yes.
European countries could just, ya know, stop persecuting them instead of giving them land occupied by innocent third parties with free reign to perpetrate the same ethnic aggressions out of Europe's hair.
To the pre 1967 line at least.All of its land?