UFC 219 - Cyborg vs Holm - Vegas

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Carla/Cyn over at -170 is a nice line to me as well. Cyn Sub only way this ends ITD and the last time Carla faced a dangerous grappler (Penne) she had a striking based gameplan, only shooting tds to steal rds near the end. In theory Carla should be able to survive on the ground in spurts, Cyn is absolutly beastly there, but Pearl survived for awhile (over would have hit).
 



Mark De La Rosa is the husband of Montana De La Rosa, that chick who recently won in her UFC debut.

Mark tried out for the 145 pound season of TUF, but didn't make it. He is a 135`er.

Mark vs. Tim Elliott is at 135 pounds, not 125 pounds.
 
I'm not disagreeing w you, my memory for these things has just gotten worse. Which fights has he been rocked/stunned in besides the MJ fight? I dont really recall any others

RDA had him backed up as well. Khabib's boxing is just so bad. He just backs up and paws his hands waiting to shoot.
 
RDA had him backed up as well. Khabib's boxing is just so bad. He just backs up and paws his hands waiting to shoot.

But is Edson the one to take advantage? Have to think he'll be wary of kicking. Huge part of his game. As much as I love him +2xx against anyone, I dunno...
 
Mark De La Rosa

-135 pounds no issues, 125 bit more longer
-released from previous contract, tried TUF series 145pounders, impressed ufc brass during try outs.
-Stayed active around 150 roughly pounds, training at gym but ufc offered 135.
-weights already coming down, through simple tweaks so not an issue
-wants a tough hard fight against tim
-says tim (opponent) is awkward but he is ready to show case his skills
-doing a lot of wrestling in gym even before ufc call, also lots of boxing done. Working on his jab and boxing.
-Will enjoy xmas with daughter and wife, will chip away at weight cut and end of 2017 he gets his best xmas present ever (to be in the ufc)
-wife, boxing coach will be in his corner.
 
A dude is always the same dude that he was in the peak of his career, clearly. He's had interviews talking about motivation problems, has essentially retired twice now and was never great at stopping the takedown even at his peak. Condit had the archetypal young man's game, between his unconventional volume-striking and guard-based ground defense, but those can frequently just stop working. Even in the Maia fight the commentators note that 'Jacksons prefers to focus on guard elbows rather than getting up for this fight', and that takedown was off a fairly-shitty single leg. Magny's a better offensive wrestler than Maia, and that path to victory's there if he gets his Fight IQ online for once.

Man, I'm really not sure where you get your stuff from. You've made some great posts in the past but some of your points here are way off. Magny a better wrestler than Maia??? Dude, please just..... no.....

Also not really sure what you mean by "his unconventional volume-striking and guard-based ground defense, but those can frequently just stop working". How exactly does unconventional volume-striking stop working?
 
I like Carla at +235. She has the experience over Calvillo and I believe she'll grind this one out.

i'm not a huge carla fan but man, i might have to join ya. +260 now. wish i got that dec opener of +415.

if edson gets to +250 i'm going to stab.

Ha @t6p and I decided that was the sweet spot as well.

i told myself that, too, but then it plummeted to +170 yesterday.. i'm taking some +235 just in case this is where it tops out. and barb dec +670.
 
But is Edson the one to take advantage? Have to think he'll be wary of kicking. Huge part of his game. As much as I love him +2xx against anyone, I dunno...
6 inch reach advantage for Edson. Can’t remember the last time Khabib had to deal w a long reach like thag
 
6 inch reach advantage for Edson. Can’t remember the last time Khabib had to deal w a long reach like thag

Fastest switch kicker in the game versus a warthog. I just keep thinking about when MJ kinda whobbled Khabib. I said to myself, this guy is gonna get KO'd once he starts fighting the elite. MJ got a full 2 min to throw until Khabib went to warthog. Clipped him once or twice. Rogan oversells it (obviously) but he did hurt him. Someone will KO him. Maybe I'll go with Edson KO and just shut up about it haha
 
Fastest switch kicker in the game versus a warthog. I just keep thinking about when MJ kinda whobbled Khabib. I said to myself, this guy is gonna get KO'd once he starts fighting the elite. MJ got a full 2 min to throw until Khabib went to warthog. Clipped him once or twice. Rogan oversells it (obviously) but he did hurt him. Someone will KO him. Maybe I'll go with Edson KO and just shut up about it haha
We have good enough odds now where a straight play is good enough for me. I mean I’ll still throw down a bit on either the decision or tko line but I’m pretty happy with where the ML is going
 
If you play Carla I can’t see a reason to bet anything but her dec prop. Carla has bad stand up and I doubt she gets a sub. I can see her winning scrambles and making the fight ugly and winning with top control.
 
If you play Carla I can’t see a reason to bet anything but her dec prop. Carla has bad stand up and I doubt she gets a sub. I can see her winning scrambles and making the fight ugly and winning with top control.
It's completely against my betting principles to back a sizable underdog only via a prop. If you're getting a good price on a moneyline like +260 in this case, it would really suck to back the winning underdog and lose money because they won via a method other than what you predicted. I always do a bigger bet on the moneyline in a case like this and a smaller bet on the prop.
 
edson just has to drill takedown defence for his entire camp and he will have plenty of good sparring partners to help him.
 
Holm by decision is something I'm interested in. Cyborg will be power swinging at air for at least 15 mins, I'm suspecting she will gas badly in round 4.
 
Holm by decision is something I'm interested in. Cyborg will be power swinging at air for at least 15 mins, I'm suspecting she will gas badly in round 4.

Cyborg has shown that she can be measured vs Evinger.
 
I think i like the NGTD prop here. If Khabib can take Barb down i think he can finish him on the ground and if he doesn`t succeed with the TD he will be very easily outstriked and knocked out maybe. 1u U2.5 @1.90 for now.
 
I don't see why Cyborg won't initiate grappling here big ground advantage.
 
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