Elections Big D Bernie, shows he is for workers once again. Plan to double union membership

[PainIsLIfe]

Bernie Sanders announces plan to double union membership if elected


Bernie Sanders has released plans to double union membership in the US during his first term in office as he campaigns to secure the Democratic presidential candidacy.

Sanders’ plan is an expansion of the Workplace Democracy Act, previously championed by the Vermont senator, and would also restore workers’ rights to collectively bargain for better wages, benefits and working conditions.

American unions have been decimated. No wonder inequality is booming | Steven Greenhouse
Between 1983 and 2015, union membership declinedby 2.9 million workers, as the number of wage and salary workers grew by nearly 50 million. Nearly one-third of workers in the US were represented by a union 50 years ago, but that representation has declined since the 1960’s to about 11% today. Economists have directly attributed about one-thirdof increases in wealth inequality in the 1980s and 90s to a decline in labor unions.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...9/aug/21/bernie-sanders-union-membership-plan

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This is the pro-worker message that will win the next election.

Many on the right will try and shit on unions, but we simply need to compare the approval ratings for unions to corporations to see if that bull shit about unions being corrupt, will win a vote anywhere.

Unions are corrupt? So are corporations, the Republican party, the Democratic party, the department of Justice, and everything else.

Wake me up when you have another real plan to raise wages for American workers without massive government intervention that will have its own problems.

Here is your choice if you are anti-union. Accept what we offer and fucking like it, or kick rocks.

I laugh at all the shitty capitalists that hate unions, because they don't understand leverage.

I guarantee if your dude Donny, was a worker, he would understand the art of the deal baby.

Discuss.......

Why does everything the democrats propose involve stepping on my rights?

His plan calls for the repeal of all right to work laws - which SCOTUS has repeatedly held to be unconstitutional.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Bad analogy as you are comparing a private business to an employer. I can go a lifetime without ever setting foot on your golf course, I cant go a lifetime without working.

Yeah, the 89% of US workers who don't work in union shops had one hell of a hard time finding non-union employment. You'll probably starve before you'll be able to find the rare job in America that doesn't force you to pay union dues and report to a steward.

 

[AndroidRage]

Except the employer isn't given a choice. In (I believe) 22 states if employees choose to unionize the employer has 0 options to hire non-union employees as it's baked into the contract that they cannot. All other states are (rightfully, imo) right to work states where you are under no obligation to join the union if you so choose.

What I'm arguing for is for individual employees to be given the choice if they want to join a union, not be forced into it just to work somewhere.

Then find another fucking job where there is no Union. Not every single job will be unionized. If you want shit pay and benefits then go somewhere else.

 

[AndroidRage]

I support unions, but I'm skeptical of any claim that some policy will increase union membership X percent. The workers have to want to be unionized. If workers don't want unions, no policy is going to increase union membership, regardless of how easy some policy makes joining a union.

Not sure what is in the policy but there are plenty of places that worker would like to unionize but can't. Walmart has new hires watch anti union propaganda for instance to dissuade them from trying to unionize. Most right wingers in this thread are probably Walmart greeters in fact.

 

[AndroidRage]

So you are for making every state and every job a closed shop. So you have have to pay to work and you have to know something to get a job in the first place.

I thought you were in favor of people have choice.

I’m all for the ability of unions to organize if the workers want but also for the right of workers not to if they don’t.

Well Unions are formed exactly that way. They only Unionize if the majority of workers WANT to unionize. If you are trying to get a job there and don't want to be in a union then go somewhere else and find a job.

 

[AndroidRage]

“I’ll double union size!”
“We really just want to continue to have better union health plans”
“Yeah, no, you’re actually all going on Medicare”
“Uh, what?”

They would have better health plans under M4A and any savings on healthcare benefits for the company will be put towards higher wages for the workers...... so yeah, they would be much better off.

 

[Shonuffbrad]

You don’t want to give the unions too much power because companies will do the exact same thing that the auto companies and move somewhere else.

 

[VivaRevolution]

You don’t want to give the unions too much power because companies will do the exact same thing that the auto companies and move somewhere else.

Good.

Then Bernie can continue to do what Trump has done on trade.

How do you think that is working out for all the companies that chose to go to China?

 

[Captain Davis]

Inions have their place, but as usual when people get power, they misuse resources and get ridiculous with their demands.

 

[Shonuffbrad]

Good.

Then Bernie can continue to do what Trump has done on trade.

How do you think that is working out for all the companies that chose to go to China?[/QUOTE
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...trade-war-u-s-companies-still-love-china/amp/
See for yourself

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

Bernie is all about workers' rights unless he's the boss....in which case he likes to take advantage of the very rules that he pretends to fight against.

 

[VivaRevolution]

@Shonuffbrad

Forbes is barely better than Infowars.

 

[AndroidRage]

Bernie is all about workers' rights unless he's the boss....in which case he likes to take advantage of the very rules that he pretends to fight against.

He is the only candidate in history to have a Unionized campaign staff. They have very good health care and make over 15 an hour

 

[oldshadow]

Well Unions are formed exactly that way. They only Unionize if the majority of workers WANT to unionize. If you are trying to get a job there and don't want to be in a union then go somewhere else and find a job.

Pay the extortion fee or don’t work.

And make it so there are no other places to work.

 

[deviake]

I would think conservatives would be against freeloading from the way many talk, yet it seems they want to get the benefits of being in a union without putting in like everyone else.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Pay the extortion fee or don’t work.

And make it so there are no other places to work.

Why do you think we should have a law that says employers can't set terms of employment?

What are you a Communist?

 

[My Spot]

He is the only candidate in history to have a Unionized campaign staff. They have very good health care and make over 15 an hour

Yeah, after he got busted in June for not paying staffers $15 an hour like he was criticizing Walmart for that same month.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Inions have their place, but as usual when people get power, they misuse resources and get ridiculous with their demands.

It's a pendulum.

Which way do you think it needs to swing right now?

 

[VivaRevolution]

Bernie is all about workers' rights unless he's the boss....in which case he likes to take advantage of the very rules that he pretends to fight against.

Yeah, after he got busted in June for not paying staffers $15 an hour like he was criticizing Walmart for that same month.

Yeah, but is he tied to Epstien?

 

[Shonuffbrad]

@Shonuffbrad

Forbes is barely better than Infowars.

Do a google search