Lennox Lewis vs. Tyson Fury prime for prime.

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Come one guys, consider the matchup and not just who you think is the better overall fighter.

Fury would clown Lewis, fight wouldn't be that competitive. Basically a reply of the Fury/Wald fight.

No disrespect to Lewis, he's a greater fighter than Fury, just a really bad matchup for him. He'd be frustrated all night long.

Lewis doesn't move well enough to deal with Fury, and his biggest advantages (length and jab) would be offset by Fury's size and movement.

I agree it would be similar to Fury vs Wlad as Wlad's style and size is most similar to Lewis of anyone Fury has fought and both Lewis and Wlad are used to being the bigger man with the longer reach.

 

[I am your real dad]

Close contest.
I'd lean toward Fury but it would have been a back and forth fight.

Also, the Fury that beat Wilder is not prime Fury. Fury came out of retirement for these resent contests.

 

[svmVR2097]

I agree it would be similar to Fury vs Wlad as Wlad's style and size is most similar to Lewis of anyone Fury has fought and both Lewis and Wlad are used to being the bigger man with the longer reach.

He didn't fight a prime Wlad though(who he only beat by 2 rounds on 2 scorecards) and he certainly would be up for a much bigger task in facing a prime Lewis.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

He didn't fight a prime Wlad though(who he only beat by 2 rounds on 2 scorecards) and he certainly would be up for a much bigger task in facing a prime Lewis.

That just goes to show how terrible judges are in boxing. Prime Lewis was better than 40 year old Wlad I still think he would have a lot of trouble with Tyson Fury because his style was based around being the bigger man with better technique and longer reach and IMO Fury is more technical and clearly has a longer reach and is bigger, his footwork is also better IMO. Lewis could certain win but I would favor Fury in this hypothetical fight.

 

[svmVR2097]

That just goes to show how terrible judges are in boxing. Prime Lewis was better than 40 year old Wlad I still think he would have a lot of trouble with Tyson Fury because his style was based around being the bigger man with better technique and longer reach and IMO Fury is more technical and clearly has a longer reach and is bigger, his footwork is also better IMO. Lewis could certain win but I would favor Fury in this hypothetical fight.

Prime Lewis is a top 3 HW all time

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Prime Lewis is a top 3 HW all time

Possibly, but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing who would win in a hypothetical one on one fight between Lewis and Fury in their primes, not who's achieved more.

 

[PUO3]

I see Lennox as all wrong for Fury. I dont think Fury gets blown out of the water, but I definitely have Lennox winning. Lennox is so much better and so much more complete than anyone Fury has fought. Hes not a one punch wonder, and hes not gun shy. He moves better than all of them and can knock anyone out.

Really a fun fight as Lennox would force the fight, but I think he busts Fury up in deep rounds and likely gets a stoppage. Fury gets hit quite a bit, by guys far worse than Lennox. Id take him over a some ATGs, but Lennox isnt one of them.

 

[svmVR2097]

Possibly, but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing who would win in a hypothetical one on one fight between Lewis and Fury in their primes, not who's achieved more.

If Otto Walin could almost get the fight stopped vs Fury, then Lewis definitely would have with how he cut up Vitali's face

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

If Otto Walin could almost get the fight stopped vs Fury, then Lewis definitely would have with how he cut up Vitali's face

Terrible comparison, Lewis fights nothing like Otto Walin and he's nothing like him in size either. Fights are about style match ups. Lewis has never fought anyone like Tyson Fury, Fury on the other hand has fought guys like Lewis. Tyson Fury has trouble with smaller HWs like Otto, which Lewis isn't.

Your post is like if I were to say if Rahman can KO Lewis so could Fury. It doesn't make sense cause it doesn't reflect why those fights went the way they did. Otto Walin is faster than Lewis and a better inside fighter which is why Fury had trouble with him. Rahman KOed Lewis cause he has big one punch KO power which Fury does not. You really need to think about how these guys match up not how they did against other fighters that are nothing like one another.

 

[svmVR2097]

Terrible comparison, Lewis fights nothing like Otto Walin and he's nothing like him in size either. Fights are about style match ups. Lewis has never fought anyone like Tyson Fury, Fury on the other hand has fought guys like Lewis. Tyson Fury has trouble with smaller HWs like Otto, which Lewis isn't.

Your post is like if I were to say if Rahman can KO Lewis so could Fury. It doesn't make sense cause it doesn't reflect why those fights went the way they did. Otto Walin is faster than Lewis and a better inside fighter which is why Fury had trouble with him. Rahman KOed Lewis cause he has big one punch KO power which Fury does not. You really need to think about how these guys match up not how they did against other fighters that are nothing like one another.

Wallin and Lewis are both 6'5 and a prime Lewis was only about 6-7lbs heavier than Wallin

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Wallin and Lewis are both 6'5 and a prime Lewis was only about 6-7lbs heavier than Wallin

Lewis is an outside fighter though and not known for his hand speed or combos, Wallin is kind of the opposite from what I have seen of his fights.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

That just goes to show how terrible judges are in boxing. Prime Lewis was better than 40 year old Wlad I still think he would have a lot of trouble with Tyson Fury because his style was based around being the bigger man with better technique and longer reach and IMO Fury is more technical and clearly has a longer reach and is bigger, his footwork is also better IMO. Lewis could certain win but I would favor Fury in this hypothetical fight.

i don’t blame any judging in that fight, it was horrible to watch and horrible to score. I had fury winning but it was one of the dullest hw title fights I can remember
I think fury would give Lennox some problems, I think he gives everyone some problems because of his size and movement, but imo hed figure him out by mid rounds and put it on fury. Fury is not a better technical boxer than Lewis, and certainly doesn’t hit as hard. He can match him at range but on the inside he beats fury up, possibly stops him
I’m certainly not underestimating Tyson, i also think he does better against ATGs than most think. But I think Lewis is as tough a matchup for fury as anyone

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

i don’t blame any judging in that fight, it was horrible to watch and horrible to score. I had fury winning but it was one of the dullest hw title fights I can remember
I think fury would give Lennox some problems, I think he gives everyone some problems because of his size and movement, but imo hed figure him out by mid rounds and put it on fury. Fury is not a better technical boxer than Lewis, and certainly doesn’t hit as hard. He can match him at range but on the inside he beats fury up, possibly stops him
I’m certainly not underestimating Tyson, i also think he does better against ATGs than most think. But I think Lewis is as tough a matchup for fury as anyone

I think Fury's understanding of angles, his head movement and his footwork is what makes him more technical than Lewis. I agree Lewis is better on the inside but he never really fought anyone where he had to be constantly trying to get inside(that I can think of at the moment). I think that would hurt him a lot in this style match up as he wouldn't be able to fight Fury with his normal style IMO and because of that he wouldn't be as good. I would favor Fury in this match up but Lewis would have a good shot at winning and would definitely be more likely to win by KO.

 

[PUO3]

Terrible comparison, Lewis fights nothing like Otto Walin and he's nothing like him in size either. Fights are about style match ups. Lewis has never fought anyone like Tyson Fury, Fury on the other hand has fought guys like Lewis. Tyson Fury has trouble with smaller HWs like Otto, which Lewis isn't.

Your post is like if I were to say if Rahman can KO Lewis so could Fury. It doesn't make sense cause it doesn't reflect why those fights went the way they did. Otto Walin is faster than Lewis and a better inside fighter which is why Fury had trouble with him. Rahman KOed Lewis cause he has big one punch KO power which Fury does not. You really need to think about how these guys match up not how they did against other fighters that are nothing like one another.

Fury has never fought anyone even remotely close to Lennox.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Fury has never fought anyone even remotely close to Lennox.

You can't be serious, are you trolling? Wlad is absolutely similar to Lewis in style and size.

 

[PUO3]

You can't be serious, are you trolling? Wlad is absolutely similar to Lewis in style and size.

Lewis is far, far more aggressive and durable. Much better and active inside. Theyre both big and hit hard. Thats about the end of their similarities.

 

[PUO3]

Not to mention Lewis proved it vs much better competition.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Lewis is far, far more aggressive and durable. Much better and active inside. Theyre both big and hit hard. Thats about the end of their similarities.

They are both guys that fight behind their jabs and tend to stay on the outside and clinch on the inside then repeat. Lewis is far more durable and better on the inside but his gameplan for most of his career was almost exactly the same as Wlad's and both were trained in that style from the same trainer. Lewis hasn't fought anyone remotely similar to Fury, Fury has fought someone similar to Lewis in Wlad.

I don't care if you think Lewis would win or not, but saying that Wlad isn't similar to him in size and style is just flat out bullshit.

 

[PUO3]

They are both guys that fight behind their jabs and tend to stay on the outside and clinch on the inside then repeat. Lewis is far more durable and better on the inside but his gameplan for most of his career was almost exactly the same as Wlad's and both were trained in that style from the same trainer. Lewis hasn't fought anyone remotely similar to Fury, Fury has fought someone similar to Lewis in Wlad.

I don't care if you think Lewis would win or not, but saying that Wlad isn't similar to him in size and style is just flat out bullshit.

Theyre really not very similar. Wlad is content to do fuck all but takes what he can get for big punches. Cautious as it gets, and that doesnt cut it for fighting Fury.

So yes, Fury hasnt fought anyone like Lennox either. Being big and having a jab doesnt make them similar.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Theyre really not very similar. Wlad is content to do fuck all but takes what he can get for big punches. Cautious as it gets, and that doesnt cut it for fighting Fury.

So yes, Fury hasnt fought anyone like Lennox either. Being big and having a jab doesnt make them similar.

Apparently you never saw Lewis fight Tyson because that's exactly how he fought him. Lots of Lewis' fights are similar to Wlad fights bunch of straight punches then clinching then repeat. I didn't say being big and having a jab were their only similarities, they also fought similarly but you don't want to have an honest debate so I'm done talking to you.

Emanuel steward trained them both in a very similar style, I wish I could ignore mods since you either are trolling me or don't know what the hell you're talking about.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/06/wladimir-klitschko-a-weaker-version-of-lennox-lewis/



Both Lewis and Klitchko fought with the same style while being trained by Emanuel Steward, if you don't see it you don't know what you're watching.