UFC Fight Night: The Korean Zombie vs Ige

[Foghorn Leghorn]

For me it's Ige's grittyness coupled with him never hitting a wall in tems of improvement. The guy went from getting picked apart by Julio Arce to beating Kevin Aguilar at his own game, to engaging with Barboza. He's also been durable as hell so an early finish for Zombie, like the ones he's had in his recent victories is not too likely.

I favor KZ since he should be sharper at range and should be able to dictate where the fight goes, but Ige hits hard and fast.

I agree with most of this stuff, I think my early lean is towards Ige's ceiling being lower than Zombies, and that Zombie is still in... I don't think his prime, but still very dangerous. He's done physically improving, but he seemed to be fighting pretty cerebral in those Frankie and Moicano fights. The Moicano one is sort of like Ige's win over Tucker in a way though.

Ige's definitely durable. He's Hawaiian isn't he? Hawaiian dudes always seem durable at a minimum, something in the water over there. Zombie is too, perhaps not what he once was, but he took a beating from Ortega, a little worrying given his age.

Ige didn't hurt Barboza really, and got stung himself a couple times. I'd say Zombie's a harder puncher than Barboza. Hard to say for sure since Barboza's had limited XP at 145. His power seems improved there from early results, but I'd rate Zombie up there with the hardest hitters in 145 I think, whereas Ige is probably a step lower than that.

I'm gonna have to start watching some tape on this one, the odds are a pick 'em.

 

[Kazda1]

You think procopio gets ran over? By what? A car? Certainty not o’neill

Lol. Doesn't the bad striking defense of procopio concern you a little? I haven't dug too much into it, but is O'neill a contender series vet? Maybe I'm overlooking and overestimating O'neill's ability to bring the fight to her opponent and maybe overlooking procopio's ground game? I just don't think O'neill would be satisfied staying on her back? Maybe I should pass this week lol.

 

[BigSteve]

Lol. Doesn't the bad striking defense of procopio concern you a little? I haven't dug too much into it, but is O'neill a contender series vet? Maybe I'm overlooking and overestimating O'neill's ability to bring the fight to her opponent and maybe overlooking procopio's ground game? I just don't think O'neill would be satisfied staying on her back? Maybe I should pass this week lol.

O'Neil has bad striking defense as well, it's why I played Dobson small. She eats shots to close the distance, she is very relentless with her clinching and takedowns. Think this comes down to who you think is better on the ground.

Lara is a black belt, she has better control by a bit in my opinon. O'Neil dosent stop with her ground and pound, but she loses position a bit with how aggressive she is with it. I need to look into tape off their back. Both have average wrestling

 

[sonhow]

Ive seen Semelsberger's both ufc fights and he had easy time in both. Williams similar stuff in his two wins but he looked better than I expected vs Perreia. I see the value on Matthew though.

Penny for your thoughts @Sadistics?

 

[longway]

Ive seen Semelsberger's both ufc fights and he had easy time in both. Williams similar stuff in his two wins but he looked better than I expected vs Perreia. I see the value on Matthew though.

Penny for your thoughts @Sadistics?

Just depends on how much you rate Khaos's chances of landing one of his fuck-you power shots. I think Semelberger is better everywhere, but Khaos is cagey and will crack him at some point. His weakness seems to be a lack of TDD, but Semelsberger likes to use his head movement and trade rather than wrestle. He has power too.

 

[sonhow]

Just depends on how much you rate Khaos's chances of landing one of his fuck-you power shots. I think Semelberger is better everywhere, but Khaos is cagey and will crack him at some point. His weakness seems to be a lack of TDD, but Semelsberger likes to use his head movement and trade rather than wrestle. He has power too.

I would think all around Matthew is better as well but that Perreia fight was really close and I thought he had all the advantages too.

 

[longway]

I would think all around Matthew is better as well but that Perreia fight was really close and I thought he had all the advantages too.

It was only close bc Pereira was being Pereira and dancing around the cage rather than engaging in a fight. But that could have been bc Khaos was holding the centre and stalking Pereira. I was a little surprised so many people gave Khaos R1 though.

 

[Broe.]

O'Neil has bad striking defense as well, it's why I played Dobson small. She eats shots to close the distance, she is very relentless with her clinching and takedowns. Think this comes down to who you think is better on the ground.

Lara is a black belt, she has better control by a bit in my opinon. O'Neil dosent stop with her ground and pound, but she loses position a bit with how aggressive she is with it. I need to look into tape off their back. Both have average wrestling

I think you are spot on here, O'neill is really gritty and relentless, that first round vs Dobson was just at a crazy pace, and she kept it up in round 2. Procopio is rather short and small imo. O'neill should have the strength advantage here.

 

[Boxing Expert 101]

Lol. Doesn't the bad striking defense of procopio concern you a little? I haven't dug too much into it, but is O'neill a contender series vet? Maybe I'm overlooking and overestimating O'neill's ability to bring the fight to her opponent and maybe overlooking procopio's ground game? I just don't think O'neill would be satisfied staying on her back? Maybe I should pass this week lol.

So you first say Procopio’s gonna get run over, then afterwards you state that you haven’t dug into it much?

Well genius, maybe you shouldn’t say those things until after actually digging into some tape.

Yet again you are one that agreed with Jordan about Maia and said Maia doesn’t even need td’s to beat him and could out strike him lmao

 

[Boxing Expert 101]

Ive seen Semelsberger's both ufc fights and he had easy time in both. Williams similar stuff in his two wins but he looked better than I expected vs Perreia. I see the value on Matthew though.

Penny for your thoughts @Sadistics?

Isn’t that the guy everyone used to copy for picks and said he would never go tout, then got a couple “offers” he couldn’t refuse?

To quote the Million dollar man “everyone’s got a price” money always talks.

 

[Jordan3399]

Yet again you are one that agreed with Jordan about Maia and said Maia doesn’t even need td’s to beat him and could out strike him lmao

lol

Isn’t that the guy everyone used to copy for picks and said he would never go tout, then got a couple “offers” he couldn’t refuse?

To quote the Million dollar man “everyone’s got a price” money always talks.

Couldn't be more wrong again

 

[Boxing Expert 101]

lol

Couldn't be more wrong again

I’m glad you can admit you couldn’t be more wrong again. That’s one step closer to learning from mistakes kid.

Every time I have been on the other side from you in here so far in here I have come out on top, what 5-0 now?

Please let me know who your dog value play is for this card so I can fade you.

 

[Val Dewar]

Watching Murata vs Ducote now. Strikes me how often Murata gets caught in an armbar position when she's on top, surely if she gets caught that cleanly by Jandiroba she won't be escaping. I mean Ducote is 8-5 and not ufc level, let alone Jandiroba level grappler

 

[Captain Chesapeake]

Oleynik/Sergei under 1.5 -155
Khaos/Matt over 1.5 -140
Fat guy vs fat guy over 1.5 -140

 

[sonhow]

Isn’t that the guy everyone used to copy for picks and said he would never go tout, then got a couple “offers” he couldn’t refuse?

To quote the Million dollar man “everyone’s got a price” money always talks.

He said he's open for discussing the fights. I don't care if he went tout or not.
In this particular fight I'd like to know if he sees something that I don't. No bet copying from me.

 

[rev0lver]

But Grant won their first fight, easily.

The levels of improvement between the two since 2016 are worlds apart though. Grant's looked sloppy as hell even in victory. At least has power though

 

[BigSteve]

Isn’t that the guy everyone used to copy for picks and said he would never go tout, then got a couple “offers” he couldn’t refuse?

To quote the Million dollar man “everyone’s got a price” money always talks.

Nothing wrong with that. We are all doing this for money aren't we?

If his track record is good enough to be a respectable tout, and it is, why not get paid for the hard work?

 

[Stat_Collector]

I think you are spot on here, O'neill is really gritty and relentless, that first round vs Dobson was just at a crazy pace, and she kept it up in round 2. Procopio is rather short and small imo. O'neill should have the strength advantage here.

there is no way she wins, ive always thought she was not a ufc caliber fighter yet, Procopio is black belt legit and good boxing.casey doesn't have an edge in this fight.

 

[Captain Chesapeake]

He’s not really a tout though. He’s not in here promoting/touting his service. He was approached and made an offer.

 

[Thesnake101]

You guys think Parisian is worth it at those odds? Roque isn't any good at all just tough, but Josh managed to lose to Parker Porter of all people.