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[LangfordBarrow]

The issue will always be opportunists but they are excused by the protesters

This isn't true either. There are videos of protesters telling people not to riot. There was that case with the umbrella cop breaking a window and protesters filming and decrying him for his crime.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

So why should someone who didn’t intend to kill get more punishment than some people who actually did intend to kill?

In what cases, what were the circumstances?

 

[deadshot138]

This isn't true either. There are videos of protesters telling people not to riot. There was that case with the umbrella cop breaking a window and protesters filming and decrying him for his crime.

Umbrella cop doesn't hold a candle to building torching man, David Dorn murdering man, Crushed by FedEx Truck Guy, or the army of looters.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Umbrella cop doesn't hold a candle to building torching man, David Dorn murdering man, Crushed by FedEx Truck Guy, or the army of looters.

That's not the point. There's plenty of video of actual protesters not agreeing with the rioters. They weren't excused by the protesters as claimed in the post I responded to.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

hey guys, half of us will steal, burn and kill, and the rest of us will frown upon such blatant disregard for the spirit of these protests. we will even post emotional messages on facebook and twitter about how we are totally a nonviolent movement and the act of some individuals do not represent the movement (even though we would never say this about cops). then, next week, the other half does the looting, while the previous looters post emotional messages about how it's totally not a violent movement and....

sounds about right.

 

[mjfan23]

You should be hung.

You can’t do it anymore while hiding behind your KKK cloak.

 

[MicroBrew]

hey guys, half of us will steal, burn and kill, and the rest of us will frown upon such blatant disregard for the spirit of these protests. we will even post emotional messages on facebook and twitter about how we are totally a nonviolent movement and the act of some individuals do not represent the movement (even though we would never say this about cops). then, next week, the other half does the looting, while the previous looters post emotional messages about how it's totally not a violent movement and....

sounds about right.

93% is not half

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

And keep in mind that the definition of what is violent demonstration includes "road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials." So that is a broad definiton of what is violent protesting.

If road blocking and putting up barricades are considered violent protesting then the pro democracy Honk Kong protests and many of the 60s Civil Rights marches can be defined as violent protesting.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

wasnt one of the jurors a blm activist? shouldn't that under normal circumstances lead to a mistrial?

Yup, and lied about it. Along with Maxine Waters showing up encouraging violence if the "right" verdict isn't reached just days before the jury deliberation.

 

[Last Falconry]

MUH BLM

MUH RIOTS THAT BURNED DOWN AMERICA

 

[JSN]

A hostile crowd threatening him? If anything makes this case more egregious it's that there was a crowd there pleading with him to show mercy. It wasn't some violent crowd posing any risk at all to the cops. If any emotion got the better him it was pride not fear.

Apparently they were pleading so hard that the paramedics refused to entire they scene until the pleading was a bit less boisterous.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

93% is not half

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

And keep in mind that the definition of what is violent demonstration includes "road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials." So that is a broad definiton of what is violent protesting.

If road blocking and putting up barricades are considered violent protesting then the pro democracy Honk Kong protests and many of the 60s Civil Rights marches can be defined as violent protesting.

i keep hearing this number and it just sounds bogus to me.
they mention protests. if you count all the 2 person "protests" that you could find almost anywhere, cause jim and jane in buttfuck ohio wanted to sit in the walmart parking lot for 2 hours to have a nice instagram virtue signaling post,sure, fine.
it just sounds like managed outcomes to me.

 

[MicroBrew]

i keep hearing this number and it just sounds bogus to me.
they mention protests. if you count all the 2 person "protests" that you could find almost anywhere, cause jim and jane in buttfuck ohio wanted to sit in the walmart parking lot for 2 hours to have a nice instagram virtue signaling post,sure, fine.
it just sounds like managed outcomes to me.

If the study was trying to carry water for the protesters, why did they make their definition of "violent protest" soo broad ?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

If the study was trying to carry water for the protesters, why did they make their definition of "violent protest" soo broad ?

it doesn't affect the math. and the math is not the issue.

 

[JSN]

Considering the guy went unconscious and died it's more likely he had no pulse.

Unfortunately people don’t make decisions with the benefit of a crystal ball.

 

[MicroBrew]

it doesn't affect the math. and the math is not the issue.

If you left out blocking streets from the definition of "violent protest" then the % of peacefull protest would be much higher.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

If you left out blocking streets from the definition of "violent protest" then the % of peacefull protest would be much higher.

my point is that any study done like this chooses what to highlight
using the same data you can say that the protests:
- were x% this race
- the violence was initiated by protesters in most of the cases
-most of the violent protests ended with looting and bodily violence
-almost100% of the violence was done by blm

and so on

i can use the same data to show that ar15 are the worst weapon in america and t the same time the safest most harmless. interpretative sociological data like this is a black hole when turning into a political tool.

 

[MicroBrew]

my point is that any study done like this chooses what to highlight
using the same data you can say that the protests:
- were x% this race
- the violence was initiated by protesters in most of the cases
-most of the violent protests ended with looting and bodily violence
-almost100% of the violence was done by blm

and so on

i can use the same data to show that ar15 are the worst weapon in america and t the same time the safest most harmless. interpretative sociological data like this is a black hole when turning into a political tool.

The study has a clear definition of what consitutes violent protest. So I am not seeing how you can claim they are rigging the study , unless you disagree with their definition. If anything they made the study in favor of the anti BLM side.

The media and conservative focus on the violent action of the protests gave the impression the protests as a whole was mostly violent.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

The study has a clear definition of what consitutes violent protest. So I am not seeing how you can claim they are rigging the study , unless you disagree with their definition. If anything they made the study in favor of the anti BLM side.

The media and conservative focus on the violent action of the protests gave the impression the protests as a whole was mostly violent.

i am no saying they are rigging it.
only saying they are politically choosing what part to highlight.
which is true of most studies.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Unfortunately people don’t make decisions with the benefit of a crystal ball.

Keep coming up with excuses.

 

[MoparOrNoCar]

93% is not half

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds
https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

And keep in mind that the definition of what is violent demonstration includes "road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials." So that is a broad definiton of what is violent protesting.

If road blocking and putting up barricades are considered violent protesting then the pro democracy Honk Kong protests and many of the 60s Civil Rights marches can be defined as violent protesting.

Oh ok I guess it's cool for BLM protests to continue from here in out. It's not like the last year has been a disaster or anything for many of our major cities.