Opinion Complete and utter disgrace.....

[machidafan99]

Leaving/giving them the weapons was no accident.

 

[andnowweknow]

How long do you plan on peddling this bullshit narrative? Biden started a fire and then tried taking credit for pitting it out. Its backfired.

You blame these goofs for holding on to an stolen election narrative and yet you hold on to and emtpy deflection to trump for the biden administrations embarrassing decisions.

The idea that this is some unmitigated disaster is just over reach. I could care less about Joe Biden, I think he's a mediocre politician and was just preferable over the last guy.

Trump started a fire by making impossible NOT to withdraw. Now it's a bunch of after the fact critique, blame for deaths, etc...with not even a modicum of embarrassment (you) in saying Biden should get no credit for the miracle evacs...which exceeded everyone's expectations.

The only reason we didn't pull out 15 years ago is because previous administrations assumed this would be an absolute bloodbath of an exit.

All the Monday morning quarterbacking is ridiculous. Nobody thought it would go as smoothly as it did. I've said this a hundred times on here and it's always the same rose colored glasses bullshit.

NOT ONE PERSON thought the Taliban would take back the country in 2 days, anyone who pretends otherwise is a liar or stupid. That was the hiccup in the withdrawl. 122k evac'd, 15 unfortunate deaths of our sons...any president prior to Biden would have been out in an instant if they believed that was even remotely possible. Biden probably wouldn't even have left were it not for Donnie dumbass' deal to leave a year prior.

 

[SakurabasEar]

Trump started a fire by making impossible NOT to withdraw. Now it's a bunch of after the fact critique, blame for deaths, etc...with not even a modicum of embarrassment (you) in saying Biden should get no credit for the miracle evacs...which exceeded everyone's expectations.

The only reason we didn't pull out 15 years ago is because previous administrations assumed this would be an absolute bloodbath of an exit.

All the Monday morning quarterbacking is ridiculous. Nobody thought it would go as smoothly as it did. I've said this a hundred times on here and it's always the same rose colored glasses bullshit.

NOT ONE PERSON thought the Taliban would take back the country in 2 days, anyone who pretends otherwise is a liar or stupid. That was the hiccup in the withdrawl. 122k evac'd, 15 unfortunate deaths of our sons...any president prior to Biden would have been out in an instant if they believed that was even remotely possible. Biden probably wouldn't even have left were it not for Donnie dumbass' deal to leave a year prior.

They are trying to sell these political delusions, and your buying all of it.

Anything and everything that went wrong here (most of it) is somehow trumps fault- But everything that went right is of course due to bidens leadership.

Very few are arguing that we shouldn't have left afghanistan or that there wasn't a prior deal in place from trumps administration. But the biden administration altered and extended this deadline on their own. If they're going to take credit for the pullout they have to take responsibility for allowing almost everything that went wrong here.

They had several indications that the taliban would take over.-If we pulled out. It was just a matter of timing. And like the old fool he is he pulled military assets out before our people and allies.

Biden had the same stance when he was vice president, and of course he wantes the credit now of ending the war before the 20th anniversary. But he completely botched it. Aside from the dual citizens that wanted to stay there we litterly just stranded hundreds.

Like obama said, never underestimate biden's ability to fuck things up. And that will become more and more evident in the coming months.

 

[cabal]

It goes back even before then when we equipped the Mujahideen when we wanted them to fight the Soviet Union. Later on, the Mujahideen basically turned into Al Qaeda.

perhaps now they will join some moderate rebels in Syria or China or Russian borders, that why they have keep the arsenals

 

[andnowweknow]

They are trying to sell these political delusions, and your buying all of it.

Anything and everything that went wrong here (most of it) is somehow trumps fault- But everything that went right is of course due to bidens leadership.

Very few are arguing that we shouldn't have left afghanistan or that there wasn't a prior deal in place from trumps administration. But the biden administration altered and extended this deadline on their own. If they're going to take credit for the pullout they have to take responsibility for allowing almost everything that went wrong here.

They had several indications that the taliban would take over.-If we pulled out. It was just a matter of timing. And like the old fool he is he pulled military assets out before our people and allies.

Biden had the same stance when he was vice president, and of course he wantes the credit now of ending the war before the 20th anniversary. But he completely botched it. Aside from the dual citizens that wanted to stay there we litterly just stranded hundreds.

Like obama said, never underestimate biden's ability to fuck things up. And that will become more and more evident in the coming months.

I think you have a rose colored vision of how you believe this all should have went down. Not invalidating you, just asking. Who'd you vote for?

 

[koquerelle]

Now it's a bunch of after the fact critique, blame for deaths, etc...with not even a modicum of embarrassment (you) in saying Biden should get no credit for the miracle evacs...which exceeded everyone's expectations.

just as bad as ProudAmerican
what a fucking idiotic thing to say
Biden and his administration should get credit for doing what other Presidents were afraid to do. To frame it as you do shows how much of a partisan hack you are.

 

[andnowweknow]

just as bad as ProudAmerican
what a fucking idiotic thing to say
Biden and his administration should get credit for doing what other Presidents were afraid to do. To frame it as you do shows how much of a partisan hack you are.

What was it if not a successful evac? And who predicted it would go better than it did?

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

It's weird how they're all acting like Biden personally lost the war for them, like they ever had any part in it or ever really gave a fuck.

Just imagine if all these disgraced individuals volunteered for service or even just advocated for refugee programs or did literally anything to support the war effort where we might be after 20 years of their daily effort.

I'm deployed right now and have been in the military for 10 years. I know the family of one of the needlessly dead kids from last week. You're a total fucking dildo for insinuating that anyone who thinks Biden did a shitty job withdrawing hasn't sacrificed anything. I truly hope that you never have to lose a family member or a friend to incompetent leadership.

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm deployed right now and have been in the military for 10 years. I know the family of one of the needlessly dead kids from last week. You're a total fucking dildo for insinuating that anyone who thinks Biden did a shitty job withdrawing hasn't sacraficed anything. I truly hope that you never have to lose a family member or a friend to incompetent leadership.

I didn't say literally everyone, but the vast majority for sure haven't done fuck all the entire conflict to support the war or the refugees.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

No one signed up for nation building in the middle east

Joe Biden. Joe Biden signed up for nation building. He voted to go to war in congress, he was the VP of an administration that dropped more bombs than any prior administration, and then he extended the leave date and fucked things up worse than should have been possible on the withdraw.

Joe Biden is more responsible for this war than almost any other living person on the planet.

 

[Rational Poster]

Joe Biden. Joe Biden signed up for nation building. He voted to go to war in congress, he was the VP of an administration that dropped more bombs than any previous administration prior, and then he extended the leave date and fucked things up worse than should have been possible on the withdraw.

Joe Biden is more responsible for this war than almost any other living person on the planet.

Now I can't even try to take you seriously.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

I didn't say literally everyone, but the vast majority for sure haven't done fuck all the entire conflict to support the war or the refugees.

And the vast majority of people who agree with you haven't either. I'm someone who has done something to support conflict, and I disagree with your assessment.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

Now I can't even try to take you seriously.

What did I say in my post that was inaccurate? Did Biden not vote to go to war? Did the Obama admin not drop 10 times more bombs than Bush? Did Biden not extend the withdraw date? What's so funny about a president who has war mongered for 20+ years?

 

[Confucamus]

They are trying to sell these political delusions, and your buying all of it.

Anything and everything that went wrong here (most of it) is somehow trumps fault- But everything that went right is of course due to bidens leadership.

Very few are arguing that we shouldn't have left afghanistan or that there wasn't a prior deal in place from trumps administration. But the biden administration altered and extended this deadline on their own. If they're going to take credit for the pullout they have to take responsibility for allowing almost everything that went wrong here.

They had several indications that the taliban would take over.-If we pulled out. It was just a matter of timing. And like the old fool he is he pulled military assets out before our people and allies.

Biden had the same stance when he was vice president, and of course he wantes the credit now of ending the war before the 20th anniversary. But he completely botched it. Aside from the dual citizens that wanted to stay there we litterly just stranded hundreds.

Like obama said, never underestimate biden's ability to fuck things up. And that will become more and more evident in the coming months.

This is regurgitated Reddit copypasta bullshit. Everything that went bad, was because of Trump. Everything that went good, is because of Biden. None of it stands up to scrutiny and that's exactly why you'll never get them to debate the specifics.

I'm deployed right now and have been in the military for 10 years. I know the family of one of the needlessly dead kids from last week. You're a total fucking dildo for insinuating that anyone who thinks Biden did a shitty job withdrawing hasn't sacraficed anything. I truly hope that you never have to lose a family member or a friend to incompetent leadership.

He's already openly shown he could not care less about those dead soldiers.

 

[Rational Poster]

What did I say in my post that was inaccurate? Did Biden not vote to go to war? Did the Obama admin not drop 10 times more bombs than Bush? Did Biden not extend the withdraw date?

That Joe Biden is more responsible for this war than any living person.

The only thing Biden is more responsible for than any living person in regards to the Afghan war is ending it.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

That Joe Biden is more responsible for this war than any living person.

The only thing Biden is more responsible for than any living person in regards to the Afghan war is ending it.

He voted for it, he was the vice president for an admin that dropped 26,000+ bombs in 2016, and then he extended the exit date and got 12 Marines and a Corpsman killed on the way out.

Real fucking slow clap for this American hero.

 

[My Spot]

What did I say in my post that was inaccurate? Did Biden not vote to go to war? Did the Obama admin not drop 10 times more bombs than Bush? Did Biden not extend the withdraw date? What's so funny about a president who has war mongered for 20+ years?

I guess he doesn't know about Biden's voting record on the war in Afghan as a senator. Oof.

 

[Rational Poster]

He voted for it, he was the vice fucking president for an admin that dropped 26,000+ bombs in 2016, and then he extended the exit date and got 12 Marines and a Corpsmen killed on the way out.

Real fucking slow clap for this American hero.

EVERYONE voted for it. The entire public wanted it. Bush had the highest approval rating in modern times. This is a disingenuous argument.

Only one person in either house of congress voted against it.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

EVERYONE voted for it. The entire public wanted it. Bush had the highest approval rating in modern times. This is a disingenuous argument.

You just said that all Biden is responsible for is ending the war. Now it's okay that he's responsible for voting to go to war, being VP for an admin that killed more people in the Middle East than any other admin, and fucking up the exit because everyone else voted to do go there?

I'm not comparing Biden to other politicians. I am saying that he is more responsible for this war than almost anyone else alive because he is. And you're running cover for him for some reason.

 

[Rational Poster]

You just said that all Biden is responsible for is ending the war. Now it's okay that he's responsible for voting to go to war, being VP for an admin that killed more people in the Middle East than any other admin, and fucking up the exit because everyone else voted to do go there?

I'm not comparing Biden to other politicians. I am saying that he is more responsible for this war than almost anyone else alive because he is. And you're running cover for him for some reason.

I didn't say that it was all he was responsible for, but that is such a fucking dumb thing to say when George Bush and Dick Cheney and Obama are still people.