International Terror attack in Auckland, New Zealand.

[Ruprecht]

It gets worse: NZ police wanted to charge him under the Terrorism Prevention Act when they believed him to be planning a terror attack. But the case was dismissed by a judge who ruled that just planning an attack did not break the law.

Yeah, although to be fair New Zealand at least avoided the sort of hyper-legislation we had in Oz in the wake of 911. They were passing a new anti-terrorism law here on average every 7 weeks for over a decade.
They can literally arrest you in Oz for having "things connected to a terrorist act" (even if no act took place). You know... just to be really specific.
Cases like this are the flip side of that of course.

 

[ElKarlo]

I don't think I'd choose NZ as the place to fuck around.
They've got their people on the tightest of leashes.

Yeah says something if police were able to respond in a minute. Means they were basically right there

 

[Hatorade]

*shrug*

I worked closely with thirty or so Muslim immigrants for a decade, some of whom were quite devout. We worked graveyard and during Ramadan I would break fast with them and talk. The whole group in the rollout room was probably 130 people, educated immigrants from a dozen countries working in a tech environment. Because we had so many Muslims we set aside a series of offices with the right facing so they could pray to Mecca.

I spent so long working so closely with Muslims it's frustrating to hear people talk about them. These people were my friends and I had an enormous amount of respect for them. There was obviously a wide spectrum to their devotion, from older men who took it very seriously to younger guys that lived the club scene. One thing about the younger guys was the respect they had for the older guys, they wouldn't smoke if they were around and wouldn't even consider talking about alcohol let alone drink near them. These were people that only knew one another through the job, but the younger guys absolutely refused to disappoint the older guys if they could avoid it, even though they didn't really share the belief.

I don't know why I'm saying all this. I had a decade of conversations with an insane variety of people from across the Muslim world, but at the end of the day it's just a pile of anecdotes. All I wanted to say is that they're just people to me. It doesn't seem right to paint two billion people with the extremist brush.

I went to college with a lot of Muslims. Most of them were from Saudi Arabia. They were some of the rudest people I've ever encountered, tut none of them ever attacked anyone or blew the place up.

 

[Monkadelic]

It gets worse: NZ police wanted to charge him under the Terrorism Prevention Act when they believed him to be planning a terror attack. But the case was dismissed by a judge who ruled that just planning an attack did not break the law.

Spoiler

Of course I think that people should be able to be charged and convicted of planning attacks. I just wanted to post that clip.

 

[RogerB08]

white supremacy terrorism = 3

islamic terrorism = 1003

still long way to go

Oh, it's a lot closer than that; we just didn't keep track of the white supremesist terrorism for quite a long time.

 

[Gas121]

This place is 5 minutes from where I live. People think NZ is a safe heaven but it’s not. We have our problems too. Crazy shit

 

[aries]

You can't be physically right on top of someone 24/7. The fact that they got him in 60 seconds to me is impressive. I just hope all the victims pull through.

I don't understand the judge's decision to let him go free, because just planning an act is not grounds for arrest. I think that needs to be looked at because that would be the same as if I was openly planning a murder but because I hadn't yet acted it wasn't an offence. Seems crazy to me.

 

[Badger67]

It gets worse: NZ police wanted to charge him under the Terrorism Prevention Act when they believed him to be planning a terror attack. But the case was dismissed by a judge who ruled that just planning an attack did not break the law.

Dafuq?
That judge needs to be removed.

 

[The Elemental O]

Diversity gonna diversity.

Ignoring how the biggest terror attack in New Zealand was committed by a guy inspired by white supremacist rhetoric, which just happened in 2019. In fact, the worst terror attacks in the country's history were committed by far right nutjobs.

The man was killed within 60 seconds of beginning the attack, she said, adding that he had been inspired by the Islamic State militant group.

"It was hateful, it was wrong. It was carried out by an individual, not a faith," Ms Ardern said.

Of course it has nothing to do with faith when they are inspired by Islamic State militant groups.

I see you failed to notice the "militant" part.

The quote (If you meet the infidel, kill the infidel), is a completely made up and already debunkable quote that was made by taking an actual quote from the Quran out of context which is "Fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits", which means if someone is attacking you, defend yourself but do not intentionally attack or kill civilians even during warfare.

Also these so-called Islamic State groups who "declared war" clearly failed the entrance exam regarding Islamic conduct during warfare:

 

[MicroBrew]

Yeah says something if police were able to respond in a minute. Means they were basically right there

They were following him round the clock, according to news reports.

 

[Neph]

Ignoring how the biggest terror attack in New Zealand was committed by a guy inspired by white supremacist rhetoric, which just happened in 2019. In fact, the worst terror attacks in the country's history were committed by far right nutjobs.



I see you failed to notice the "militant" part.

The quote (If you meet the infidel, kill the infidel), is a completely made up and already debunkable quote that was made by taking an actual quote from the Quran out of context which is "Fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits", which means if someone is attacking you, defend yourself but do not intentionally attack or kill civilians even during warfare.

Also these so-called Islamic State groups who "declared war" clearly failed the entrance exam regarding Islamic conduct during warfare:

Good fucking luck with that

 

[grimballer]

Ignoring how the biggest terror attack in New Zealand was committed by a guy inspired by white supremacist rhetoric, which just happened in 2019. In fact, the worst terror attacks in the country's history were committed by far right nutjobs.



I see you failed to notice the "militant" part.

The quote (If you meet the infidel, kill the infidel), is a completely made up and already debunkable quote that was made by taking an actual quote from the Quran out of context which is "Fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits", which means if someone is attacking you, defend yourself but do not intentionally attack or kill civilians even during warfare.

Also these so-called Islamic State groups who "declared war" clearly failed the entrance exam regarding Islamic conduct during warfare:

gotta love how some random poster on sherdog knows more about islam than islamic theologians who studied islam their entire life and know the quran and sunnahs inside out

 

[grimballer]

Oh, it's a lot closer than that; we just didn't keep track of the white supremesist terrorism for quite a long time.

yeah its more like

white supremacy = 7

islamic terrorism = 998

of course today some guy who visited few neo nazis sites and then beats up a minority after a disagreement is considered "white supremacy terrorism"

 

[ElKarlo]

They were following him round the clock, according to news reports.

Ah well then that’s kinda dropping the ball a bit then. Idk seems like this is a weird situation all around. Can’t really comment anymore til I get more info

 

[aries]

They were following him round the clock, according to news reports.

Must be kind of frustrating to know this guy has been planning something but they have to spend a huge amount of time and resources to keep him under surveillance as he roamed around free in society when he could have been locked up safely if the laws were different.

 

[The Elemental O]

gotta love how some random poster on sherdog knows more about islam than islamic theologians who studied islam their entire life and know the quran and sunnahs inside out

Because those so-called theologians who run those so-called Islamic States are corrupt motherf***ers who are doing it for power, not religious devotion considering a lot of them are massive hypocrites who commit bigger sins against Islam than their victims.

People also ignore that among the biggest victims of Islamic militants are Muslims themselves.

Also the number of far right terror attacks is far higher than many of you are aware of.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

To be fair, the worst terror attack in NZ history was carried out by a White Supremist: the murder of 51 Muslims during the Mosque Attacks in 2019.

Sherfront will ignore this.

 

[ElKarlo]

Because those so-called theologians who run those so-called Islamic States are corrupt motherf***ers who are doing it for power, not religious devotion considering a lot of them are massive hypocrites who commit bigger sins against Islam than their victims.

People also ignore that among the biggest victims of Islamic militants are Muslims themselves.

Also the number of far right terror attacks is far higher than many of you are aware of.

Lol at the last chart. The ADL clearly is over counting or making up data at this point.

 

[SteveColdStone]

Terrorists nearly always seem to be known to the police. It’s a joke that this guy wasn’t in prison.

 

[ElKarlo]

Terrorists nearly always seem to be known to the police. It’s a joke that this guy wasn’t in prison.

Dude is a foreigner. He should have been deported when he was out on a suspect list