Crime Ahmaud Arbery Shooting v4 (autopsy report)

[Amerikuracana]

He has no such record. Please provide ANY information to support the claim that he was "scoping out houses" to burglarize, as another poster implied.

So you HAVE seen his criminal record then.. Ok.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

min this case the judge did decide it irrelevant up to this point.. If his criminal record has him breaking into homes, another judge could have easily admitted it. I’d like to see it, personally, and as a juror I would want to as well.


What exactly do you think is keeping the people that break into homes in every block every week in high crime urban areas from coming out and doing the same thing, and shutting down businesses in the suburbs? It’s ONLY the threat that citizens will stop them. The cities have cops too. Be careful dummies.

“listen i know this guy doesn’t have a criminal history and was the victim of a hate crime blah blah but what we really need to talk about is people who DO do crimes”

 

[Amerikuracana]

“listen i know this guy doesn’t have a criminal history and was the victim of a hate crime blah blah but what we really need to talk about is people who DO do crimes”

ive heard conflicting information about his criminal record. Have you seen it?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

ive heard conflicting information about his criminal record. Have you seen it?

why would i even look that up? lmao i’m just hearing about this case right now, and it doesn’t sound like anything was stolen or vandalized in the area so why would anyone assume he was committing a crime?

ohhhhhhhh wait, THAT’S why

 

[panamaican]

Well for evidence we are supposed to consider in a judicial setting, if he has a history of breaking into homes or construction sites, it could be relevant in establishing a pattern of behavior that we are supposed to consider.

No, it wouldn't be. You need a felony conviction within 10 years or something that goes to truthfulness, generally speaking prior bad acts are not admissible precisely because people misapply it. You can't use prior bad acts to prove that someone committed a similar crime in the present.

Knowledge that someone stole a car last week doesn't provide any relevant evidence about if they stole a car this week. It might make them a bad person but it's not evidence of the current alleged crime.

What the general population does is tell themselves "Oh, he stole a car last week? That means he's a habitual car thief and that's evidence that he probably stole a car this week." It's inaccurate but that's how people think so courts usually keep that type of prior act out.

 

[44nutman]

So you HAVE seen his criminal record then.. Ok.

Stole a TV from Walmart and brought a gun to a High School basketball game.

 

[Amerikuracana]

why would i even look that up? lmao i’m just hearing about this case right now, and it doesn’t sound like anything was stolen or vandalized in the area so why would anyone assume he was committing a crime?

ohhhhhhhh wait, THAT’S why

Oh, so whether he had broken into 20 homes doesn’t make it more likely to you he was looking for something to steal. I see. I can’t turn my brain off to make certain people always victims. I’m sorry.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Oh, so whether he had broken into 20 homes doesn’t make it more likely to you he was looking for something to steal. I see. I can’t turn my brain off to make certain people always victims. I’m sorry.

it sounds like you’re shutting your brain off to make people always criminals instead <Lmaoo>

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Stole a TV from Walmart and brought a gun to a High School basketball game.

<Lmaoo> you guys really did look this up! color me shocked

 

[Amerikuracana]

No, it wouldn't be. You need a conviction within 10 years or something that goes to truthfulness, generally speaking prior bad acts are not admissible precisely because people misapply it. You can't use prior bad acts to prove that someone committed a similar crime in the present.

Knowledge that someone stole a car last week doesn't provide any relevant evidence about if they stole a car this week. It might make them a bad person but it's not evidence of the current alleged crime.

What the general population does is tell themselves "Oh, he stole a car last week? That means he's a habitual car thief and that's evidence that he probably stole a car this week." It's inaccurate but that's how people think so courts usually keep that type of prior act out.

There are exceptions to prior bad acts, with a somewhat tough standard to meet. If he had committed the same kind of crime repeatedly it could show motive in what he was doing, although it probably wouldn’t save the day for the overly armed neighborhood watch I don’t approve of.

 

[44nutman]

<Lmaoo> you guys really did look this up! color me shocked

Yeah because based on everyone in here, he was a serial construction site robber. So I looked up his record.
He is no angel but that does not change the fact the father and son broke the law. Their rash decision will probably lead to the father dying in jail.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Yeah because based on everyone in here, he was a serial construction site robber

sounds about white

He is no angel but that does not change the fact the father and son broke the law. Their rash decision will probably lead to the father dying in jail.

i’m just fucking with you for the most part. when i got too many dubs and banned last year for shit relating to cops and Kyle Rittenhouse and all that, i was doing the same thing. googling all this obscure ass info. no discussion on sherdog is worth googling for, unless it’s BJ Penn’s spotty record.

 

[BIKES!]

sorry i must have been jumping to conclusions

realistically though, i’m guessing you’re an adult whose watched the news at some point in your life. everything is sensationalized, dude. that’s how media works. they’re trying to make you think you need to know the story.

I get sensationalism. In a time of mass Civil Unrest (Code for violence and $3B in damages) perhaps they MSM shouldn't run headlines: innocent black jogger murdered and lynched by racist white hillbillies. Perhaps, some sort of journalistic integrity.

I know it's hard to understand that you can question the media's motives and still agree the incident is fucked up and the two guys deserve their time.

 

[BIKES!]

i don’t know anything about the case but i’m sure no white people will attempt to investigate his possible criminal history.

when i got too many dubs and banned last year for shit relating to cops and Kyle Rittenhouse and all that, i was doing the same thing. googling all this obscure ass info. no discussion on sherdog is worth googling for, unless it’s BJ Penn’s spotty record.

Oh may the irony is legendary. <Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>, you... the same kid in the Kyle thread posting the incident when he defended his sister

 

[Clifford_Harris]

I get sensationalism. In a time of mass Civil Unrest (Code for violence and $3B in damages) perhaps they MSM shouldn't run headlines: innocent black jogger murdered and lynched by racist white hillbillies. Perhaps, some sort of journalistic integrity.

I know it's hard to understand that you can question the media's motives and still agree the incident is fucked up and the two guys deserve their time.

A group of rednecks get in their truck and chase a black man running away in fear, hitting him with a vehicle doing the process, then getting out armed to block the black man's escape, then shoot and kill him.....and you think the media's headline is wrong in what way?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I get sensationalism. In a time of mass Civil Unrest (Code for violence and $3B in damages) perhaps they MSM shouldn't run headlines: innocent black jogger murdered and lynched by racist white hillbillies. Perhaps, some sort of journalistic integrity.

I know it's hard to understand that you can question the media's motives and still agree the incident is fucked up and the two guys deserve their time.

journalistic integrity died a long time ago. regardless, the truth is probably closer to that headline than “3 neighborhood heroes chase and eliminate criminal vermin” from libertyfreedomnews.org or some shit. there definitely appears to be racial motive, especially since i’m seeing they called him a “fucking n-word” after murdering him? kinda blatant.

 

[panamaican]

There are exceptions to prior bad acts, with a somewhat tough standard to meet. If he had committed the same kind of crime repeatedly it could show motive in what he was doing, although it probably wouldn’t save the day for the overly armed neighborhood watch I don’t approve of.

You would need convictions of the same type of crime to even begin to sniff at admissibility.

In fact, in this very case, a judge ruled that his prior run-ins with the law are not relevant to the case.

This type of case is the very reason we don't try cases in the court of public opinion. The public is too emotional, they care about all sorts of irrelevant things.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Oh may the irony is legendary. <Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>, you... the same kid in the Kyle thread posting the incident when he defended his sister

“defended his sister” is a good one. takes some serious commitment to the bit.

17 year old white dude sucker punches a 14 year old girl and he’s defending his sister. black guy is murdered and called the n word on video and you worry about journalistic integrity.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

Oh may the irony is legendary. <Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>, you... the same kid in the Kyle thread posting the incident when he defended his sister

What incident where he defended his sister? His sister threw the first punch in that fight with a girl, his sister was the aggressor, he jumped another girl that his sister hit first. How the hell is that him defending his sister?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

What incident where he defended his sister? His sister threw the first punch in that fight with a girl, his sister was the aggressor, he jumped another girl that his sister hit first. How the hell is that him defending his sister?

when @BIKES! little sister got bit by the family cat, he picked it up, snapped it in half and shoved that little criminal thug down the garbage disposal. NO ONE touches HIS sister.