Law Police unions across the country look to stop mandatory vaccination among officers

We've got at least 15 to 20 officers who will quit if its forced on us.

That would cripple my agency. They would need to pull detectives or eliminate traffic/motor officers to even be able to tread water with patrol staffing.
 
MTT said:
This is another good resource (but not perfect). The curator allows for a comment section below to talk data which is always interesting.

https://www.covid-datascience.com/p...strong-when-60-of-hospitalized-are-vaccinated
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From your source,
"From many, I have seen this statistic used as evidence to support a narrative suggesting vaccines don't work or have lost their effectiveness vs. severe disease, and I have seen other articles quote this type of figure as further evidence for the reduction of effectiveness of the vaccines in trying to justify 3rd shot boosters.



However, while these numbers are true, to quote them as evidence for low vaccine effectiveness is wrong and misleading."

That is how I interpreted your post.
 
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Protectandserve said:
We've got at least 15 to 20 officers who will quit if its forced on us.

That would cripple my agency. They would need to pull detectives or eliminate traffic/motor officers to even be able to tread water with patrol staffing.
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Well, this much is true; even if I believed in the most extreme idea that everyone should agree vaccines should be mandatory, I would still recognize what you say may be true. Too bad y'all don't make enough to counter such a reaction--if that would be an effective solution.
 
Grassshoppa said:
Was just talking about Australia with my friend today. It seems like there's very bad things happening there but it's not on media anywhere. It's like you have to look for it. Do you live there? What's happening?
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Lived here my whole life.

NSW the state with the highest population (Sydney) had an outbreak because the government fucked up when bring people back from bloody India. This lead to Sydney and surrounding areas being locked down then it was a state wide lockdown. Syd has been locked down for jez 2.5 months. The rest of the state was down for 3-4 weeks but is slowly opening up. The state leader has said the only way we are getting any freedoms back is if the state is 70% (or 80%) vaccinated (double dose) and then ONLY the people that are vaccinated are allowed to do anything. If you dont have the shot you literally CANNOT do anything.

I literally mean nothing. You can only go to a super market and chemist everything else is off limits for un-vaccinated. It is honestly a full blown military crackdown and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do. Every time there is a protest they disperse it and then fine everyone who attends with a few thousand dollar infringements notices. I love this country but this can fuck right off.

edit. I should also note that there are FUCK all cases even in the outbreak area and the media is having a full blown meltdown scare campaign.
 
Andy Capp said:
From your source, "
From many, I have seen this statistic used as evidence to support a narrative suggesting vaccines don't work or have lost their effectiveness vs. severe disease, and I have seen other articles quote this type of figure as further evidence for the reduction of effectiveness of the vaccines in trying to justify 3rd shot boosters.



However, while these numbers are true, to quote them as evidence for low vaccine effectiveness is wrong and misleading."

That is how I interpreted your post.
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No, I think the data is clear current two-dose vaccines remain highly effective in preventing severe illness. Personally, I am not on board with full vaccination of entire populations with this non-sterilizing vaccine. I think there is a risk vs reward analysis that should be factored in for every individual. For example, I don't think a healthy eighteen-year-old male who had covid five months ago should be forced to risk vaccine side effects when his current protection is on par or superior to the vaccine. A sixty-five-year-old woman that is seventy pounds overweight and has diabetes is nullifying a lot of risk by getting vaccinated before she is infected.
 
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Goonerview said:
God forbid anyone catch a cold. When I was a kid, when you had a fever, you just slept it off.

If you tell someone that you can’t have a job or enter a restaurant/shopping center without a “vaccine”, you are pretty much forcing or coercing them.
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Fer fooks sake, not this silly comparison again, comparing a cold to Covid-19.

A person's rights end when they infringe on the rights of others. Putting others at risk of infection is endangering them.
 
MicroBrew said:
Fer fooks sake, not this silly comparison again, comparing a cold to Covid-19.

A person's rights end when they infringe on the rights of others. Putting others at risk of infection is endangering them.
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"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins."

However, all examples this applies to are codified, be it sunbathing nude on your roof in front of neighborhood children, having a party with loud music at 2 A.M., or punching someone in the nose. Is unknowingly spreading a communicable disease to another person a misdemeanor or felony? Does this law apply to every infectious disease that has the potential to endanger any individual? In the future, reckless endangerment, attempted murder, and terroristic threat charges can be brought upon individuals for failure to vaccinate using a non-sterilizing vaccine while not wearing a cloth mask over their neckbeard in public. Identifying the victims, suspects, and prosecuting those cases will be new wave law enforcement unless the mere act of being in public unvaccinated and unmasked violates communicable disease law.
 
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MicroBrew said:
Fer fooks sake, not this silly comparison again, comparing a cold to Covid-19.

A person's rights end when they infringe on the rights of others. Putting others at risk of infection is endangering them.
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By forcing vaccines on people, you are putting their health at risk as there are side effects and people have died from the vaccine.

The common cold and influenza are viruses and they have killed people.

The vaccine does not prevent transmission.
 
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MicroBrew said:
Fer fooks sake, not this silly comparison again, comparing a cold to Covid-19.

A person's rights end when they infringe on the rights of others. Putting others at risk of infection is endangering them.
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Even if we were 100% vaccinated. The coronavirus is not going away. There will never be “zero covid”.
 
Protectandserve said:
We've got at least 15 to 20 officers who will quit if its forced on us.

That would cripple my agency. They would need to pull detectives or eliminate traffic/motor officers to even be able to tread water with patrol staffing.
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they wont quit. they need the money.
 
Andy Capp said:
You're still waiting because you don't use your head for anything but a hat rack. Every person who gets vaccinated reduces spread, reduces likelihood of new variants, reduces the likelihood of an ICU stay in the event of contracting COVID, and society accrues all the consequent knock on benefits of all of the above.

Need another reason, shadow wit?
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The ICU I agree but the spread and variants I haven’t seen any scientific proof on that.
 
ShadowRun said:
The ICU I agree but the spread and variants I haven’t seen any scientific proof on that.
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Been wearing a blindfold, have you? See above for some. But long story short, the vaccine reduces spread and that reduces the chances of new variants. Plain and simple.
 
Goonerview said:
Even if we were 100% vaccinated. The coronavirus is not going away. There will never be “zero covid”.
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No, but the effects would be greatly mitigated. You would just need booster shots. People get the flu every year and need yearly Flu vaccine shots, yet no one complained about it.
 
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