Crime Matt Gaetz possibly under investigation for sex with a minor

Darkballs said:
A great day for trump supporters. A guy who went into a DMV with his buddy to make fake id's they could give to underage girls they were banging, won't be charged with sex trafficking.

High fives all around.
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Gaetz seems like real scum. He also weirdly adopted a young boy when he was a single man, which is strange. Draw your own conclusions.
 
Darkballs said:
A guy who went into a DMV with his buddy to make fake id's they could give to underage girls they were banging, won't be charged with sex trafficking
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Ever considered that could be bullshit?

Think about it and back with us.
 
HomeCheese said:
The fact that he sought a pardon if he was convicted kinda says all I need to know. Maybe he won't be charged but I've read enough to know he has no business in congress.

So, he will probably be featured at the next republican convention.
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Pardons are an admission of GUILT. That says it ALL.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Ever considered that could be bullshit?

Think about it and back with us.
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One of the guys who did it pleaded guilty to it (Greenberg). Had an agreement with prosecutors to cooperate and testify under oath about it as well as other crimes committed. Ultimately, it was decided that they didn't think they could convict Gaetz so they didn't pursue charges. It's possible there was some sort of bigger deal involved behind the scenes...
 
Jackie Blue said:
One of the guys who did it pleaded guilty to it (Greenberg). Had an agreement with prosecutors to cooperate and testify under oath about it as well as other crimes committed. Ultimately, it was decided that they didn't think they could convict Gaetz so they didn't pursue charges. It's possible there was some sort of bigger deal involved behind the scenes...
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Okay....

Is that supposed to be condemning of Gaetz?

The prosecutors basically had nothing on Gaetz, but they did have something on someone related to Gaetz, so they offered a ....slap on the wrist... to plead guilty to a lesser charge (down from sex crimes) in exchange for suppposedly testifying against Gaetz?

And now he won't even have to do THAT.

Supposing Gaetz if actually guilty of sex crimes, there's some conspiracy-level deals going on. And someone that was a co-conspirator just got a slap-on-the-wrist.

Or

Supposing Gaetz in innocent... well... I could write paragraphs about character assassination through the media, and the federal prosecutors actually did a MAGA Republican a favor by publically announcing they're not going to prosecute him.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Okay....

Is that supposed to be condemning of Gaetz?

The prosecutors basically had nothing on Gaetz, but they did have something on someone related to Gaetz, so they offered a ....slap on the wrist... to plead guilty to a lesser charge (down from sex crimes) in exchange for suppposedly testifying against Gaetz?

And now he won't even have to do THAT.

Supposing Gaetz if actually guilty of sex crimes, there's some conspiracy-level deals going on. And someone that was a co-conspirator just got a slap-on-the-wrist.

Or

Supposing Gaetz in innocent... well... I could write paragraphs about character assassination through the media, and the federal prosecutors actually did a MAGA Republican a favor by publically announcing they're not going to prosecute him.
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I personally think Gaetz is a creep and there's A LOT of evidence he was a creep who ran with other creeps, who got caught and pleaded guilty to it, and Gaetz himself sought a pardon, which is an admission of GUILT. I just don't see how you can get around that.

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Darkballs said:
Well, he's on video with his buddy in the middle of the night working the computers and printers at an otherwise closed DMV.

So yeah, draw your own conclusions.
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Right, and other guys with him went down for it and were willing to testify against him for it. There's nothing LEGITIMATE about what they were doing there.
 
Jackie Blue said:
I personally think Gaetz is a creep and there's A LOT of evidence he was a creep who ran with other creeps, who got caught and pleaded guilty to it, and Gaetz himself sought a pardon, which is an admission of GUILT. I just don't see how you can get around that.

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Or the 'Gaetz sought a pardon' news was manufactured.

Even if it wasn't, being criminally prosecuted by the feds is extremely expensive, and it may be pointless because the jury pool is of Washington DC's population, that's seen the 'Gaetz sought a pardon' headlines.

So yeah, if I was innocent as fuck and the feds were on my ass, fuck yeah I'd seek a pardon too.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Post the video.
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The surveillance footage exists. It hasn't been released to the public yet. Probably never will, unfortunately. Gaetz is powerful and connected. So is his family. They probably made some sort of deal.
According to three people with direct knowledge of the incident: Greenberg visited the Lake Mary, Florida branch of his tax collection agency that weekend. Grainy surveillance footage captured Greenberg standing near a manager’s desk with another man. Greenberg forgot to set the alarm on the way out, which concerned the assistant branch manager when she walked into the office Monday morning. That employee was surprised to find that drivers' licenses—which are normally turned in when expired at the tax office for shredding—were scattered all over the desk instead of in the appropriate disposal basket. She reviewed the camera footage and alerted her boss, who in turn contacted Greenberg via text.


“Did you happen to visit the Lake Mary Office on the weekend?” the text message read.

The image obtained by The Daily Beast shows that Greenberg allegedly responded, “Yes I was showing congressman Gaetz what our operation looked like. Did I leave something on?”
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-text-messages-led-the-feds-to-matt-gaetz

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Federal agents arrested him at his Lake Mary home on June 17, 2020, and the case initially hinged on accusations that Greenberg had set up fake online profiles to defame the teacher and had sent several letters to the school with lurid accusations that his opponent had engaged in sexual misconduct with a student.

As of Tuesday, that case has now vastly expanded to a 33-count indictment that includes a diverse list of crimes that range from wire fraud to sex trafficking. Investigators say Greenberg recruited at least one teenager between 14 and 17 years old to engage in a “commercial sex act” between May and November 2017 in Central Florida and elsewhere.

Investigators also say that Greenberg used his privileged access to Florida’s drivers' license database to look up private information on “individuals” with whom he “was engaged in ‘sugar-daddy’ relationships.”

Additionally, Greenberg is also accused of making fake IDs—potentially explaining why the 2018 surveillance footage raised concerns that led to that text message conversation handed to investigators.

The Daily Beast obtained text messages handed to federal investigators that allegedly show Greenberg acknowledging that he visited the office on the weekend of August 4, 2018, where there were drivers' licenses “scattered across the desks and not put away in an organized manner.”


Greenberg has maintained a close relationship with Gaetz for several years. Both were rising stars in Florida’s Republican Party in 2016. They have taken selfies together with political operative Roger Stone in 2017, at AIPAC in 2018, and at the White House in 2019. Gaetz publicly lent his support to Greenberg, cheering him as “a disrupter” who should run for Congress.
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Same source as linked above. TONS of evidence against them which is why some have already pleaded guilty and why Gaetz himself sought a pardon for it, which is an admission of GUILT.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Or the 'Gaetz sought a pardon' news was manufactured.

Even if it wasn't, being criminally prosecuted by the feds is extremely expensive, and it may be pointless because the jury pool is of Washington DC's population, that's seen the 'Gaetz sought a pardon' headlines.

So yeah, if I was innocent as fuck and the feds were on my ass, fuck yeah I'd seek a pardon too.
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A Trump White House aide testified UNDER OATH about it. If you lie under oath you go to PRISON. Why would he lie under oath and risk ALL that. The evidence points towards that being the TRUTH. Perhaps an inconvenient truth for you, but the truth nevertheless.
Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told a former White House aide that he was seeking a preemptive pardon from President Donald Trump regarding an investigation in which he is a target, according to testimony given to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.


Johnny McEntee, according to people familiar with his testimony, told investigators that Gaetz told him during a brief meeting “that they are launching an investigation into him or that there’s an investigation into him,” without specifying who was investigating Gaetz.


McEntee added that Gaetz told him “he did not do anything wrong but they are trying to make his life hell, and you know, if the president could give him a pardon, that would be great.” Gaetz told McEntee that he had asked White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows for a pardon.



Asked by investigators if Gaetz’s request for a pardon was in the context of the Justice Department investigation into whether Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, McEntee replied, “I think that was the context, yes,” according to people familiar with the testimony who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The testimony is the first indication that Gaetz was specifically seeking a pardon for his own exposure related to the Justice Department inquiry into whether he violated sex trafficking laws. His public posture in the final months of the Trump administration was much less specific, repeatedly calling for broad preemptive pardons to fend off possible Democratic investigations.

McEntee testified that Gaetz met him briefly one evening and discussed the issue of a pardon but McEntee could not recall whether their conversation happened before or after the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, according to people familiar with the testimony.
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Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/17/matt-gaetz-pardon-sex-trafficking-probe/

As stated earlier, requesting a pardon is an admission of GUILT.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
"according to a person familiar with office operations who saw the videotape."

Don't see the clip of Matt Gaetz in that link, and I don't trust anonymous sources saying "Oh I SAW Matt Gaetz...."

And, further, due to that story only having one source, who's anonymous, its not even worth writing a story on. But since its against a Republican...
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I posted another source that detailed it better. Also, co-conspirators have pleaded guilty to it already. Gaetz sought a pardon, which is an admission of guilt. Republican or Democrat, it is what it is. This is projection on your part. You're defending and deflecting because they're Republicans, while accusing people who acknowledge the evidence of only believing it because it's against Republicans, even though the evidence is overwhelming.
 
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