Elections Is Herschel Walker the dumbest guy to ever run for Senate?

[crystallake]

Imo walker is in the same boat as Kanye west in that he defenetely has mental problems and shouldn't be used and exploited by anyone for political means. He's also a massive POS on top of that.

 

[58miles]

Stupidity is a large part of it, but so is dishonesty and maliciousness. Fronting a candidate who has serious problems like Walker - problems which would make them apoplectic if they came from a Democrat but which they'll happily excuse from a Republican - is a double standard many take pride in. It's a power move for them. "We have a complete lack of repercussions for behavior that you deserve to get in trouble for."

Remember:

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

The best case scenario for them, what they celebrate the most, when a Republican politician has some scandal, is not for that politician to be innocent and proved innocent; instead they want the politician to be guilty and get away with it.

For decades the Republican party has claimed to be the party of family values, the party of fiscal responsibility, the party of small government, the party of personal responsibility and the party of good government. Now we know that the Republican party is nothing more than the party of endless grievance, shameless hypocrisy and perpetual victimhood.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

For decades the Republican party has claimed to be the party of family values, the party of fiscal responsibility, the party of small government, the party of personal responsibility and the party of good government. Now we no that the Republican party is nothing more than the party of endless grievance, shameless hypocrisy and perpetual victimhood.

lets not forget about the party of law and order. after throwing a nuclear toddler tantrum while beating a bunch of police officers with back the blue flags and assaulting hundreds of police officers all because they were butthurt that their orange messiah lost the election, that whole party of law and order bullshit of theirs turned out to be just another one of their facades. these people are morally bankrupt and stand by zero principals whatsoever.

 

[58miles]

lets not forget about the party of law and order. after throwing a nuclear toddler tantrum while beating a bunch of police officers with back the blue flags and assaulting hundreds of police officers all because they were butthurt that their orange messiah lost the election, that whole party of law and order bullshit of theirs turned out to be just another one of their facades. these people are morally bankrupt and stand by zero principals whatsoever.

Everything you said is true but unfortunately millions of people are willing to deal with the moral bankruptcy and zero principals of the Republican party just as long as they hate the same people they hate.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Everything you said is true but unfortunately millions of people are willing to deal with the moral bankruptcy and zero principals of the Republican party just as long as they hate the same people they hate.

they do not stand firm and true to any values whatsoever and at the drop of a hat they will gladly go against whatever principals or values they pretended to believe in or represent, so long as it helps them spin their narrative or make them look better. one day they are responding to any criticism of donald trump or his family members by telling us that its our duty as patriots to respect the office of the sitting president and his family members, and then the next day they're all chanting lets go brandon and crying about brandons crackhead son. the outrage party with no platform, no morals, and no accountability. the party of perpetual victimhood, shameless hypocrisy, and endless crying and lying are really what they are all about and pretty much all they stand for and represent at this point.

 

[58miles]

they do not stand firm and true to any values whatsoever and they will gladly go against whatever they pretended to believe in so long as it helps them spin their narrative or make them look better. one day they are responding to any criticism of donald trump or his family members by telling us that its our duty as patriots to respect the office of the sitting president and his family members, and then the next day they're all chanting lets go brandon and crying about brandons crackhead son. the outrage party with no platform, no morals, and no accountability. the party of perpetual victimhood, shameless hypocrisy, and endless crying and lying are really what they are all about and pretty much all they stand for at this point.

Nevermind the fact Biden won areas that represent over 70% of US GDP, Nevermind the fact that they have managed to win the popular vote a grand total of once in 3 decades, nevermind the fact with very few exceptions my dog has a better chance of getting elected mayor of a major city than a Republican, Nevermind that the last Republican to leave office with at least a 50% job approval was Reagan whose brain was jello by the time he left office they manage to live in this delusional bubble where they are the silent majority.

 

[cincymma79]

When is a kid considered a kid?

Ask these people. I think it’s a life pretty much at conception but I can be swayed to vote for abortion up to the point where it’s conscious (which is debatable still)

 

[oldshadow]

You don't think Walker is a criminal? Those certainly seem like criminal actions to me. Assaulting and threatening women and children.

Has he been charged and/or convicted.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Has he been charged and/or convicted.

His former sister-in-law testified under oath about his criminal behavior. His ex-wife was given a restraining order against him and he was temporarily banned from owning a gun because he was considered to be a danger to society. But he's rich and famous so was able to get away with a lot of crap that normal people can't.

 

[oldshadow]

His former sister-in-law testified under oath about his criminal behavior. His ex-wife was given a restraining order against him and he was temporarily banned from owning a gun because he was considered to be a danger to society. But he's rich and famous so was able to get away with a lot of crap that normal people can't.

I agree he is not someone I would actively support but if you live there what are your other choices. A democrat that is going to actively work against issues you support. If I lived there and there was a republican other then him to run I would rather that.

 

[panamaican]

I agree he is not someone I would actively support but if you live there what are your other choices. A democrat that is going to actively work against issues you support. If I lived there and there was a republican other then him to run I would rather that.

I get what you're saying but I think it speaks to a larger problem. You would vote for someone who is obviously mentally unhinged and has a history of being a danger to others because of the other person's politics.

Let me lay out the alternative -- Vote for other party's candidate because it is better for the nation to have someone without mental illness in the halls of power, regardless of their politics, rather than someone with known mental disorders.

To me, the second option is better for the country. A mentally ill person should not be given significant power over the lives of other Americans. I don't really care what the reasons are. I would not hire a mentally ill person to be my doctor, lawyer, realtor, etc. if I have a normal one available to me. I don't have to like the normal one, I just have to acknowledge that you're not going to get high level decision making from someone who is already severely compromised in that ability.

If people would really vote for a mentally ill person because he's supported by the right party, I find that so hard to understand because it appears to put party over competence.

 

[oldshadow]

I get what you're saying but I think it speaks to a larger problem. You would vote for someone who is obviously mentally unhinged and has a history of being a danger to others because of the other person's politics.

Let me lay out the alternative -- Vote for other party's candidate because it is better for the nation to have someone without mental illness in the halls of power, regardless of their politics, rather than someone with known mental disorders.

To me, the second option is better for the country. A mentally ill person should not be given significant power over the lives of other Americans. I don't really care what the reasons are. I would not hire a mentally ill person to be my doctor, lawyer, realtor, etc. if I have a normal one available to me. I don't have to like the normal one, I just have to acknowledge that you're not going to get high level decision making from someone who is already severely compromised in that ability.

If people would really vote for a mentally ill person because he's supported by the right party, I find that so hard to understand because it appears to put party over competence.

You end up voting for who would do the least harm to the issues you support. At the worst you just say fuck it and don't vote for anyone.

Political office is not a beauty contest it centers on the issues and how they affect them. There are plenty of Republicans in office I don't think much off but I know how they are going to vote on an issue and it's how I want them to vote. I may disagree with there personal life, I may even think they are a asshole. I may not agree with them on some issues.
Now if they commit a crime fuck them kick them out.

In this case as more comes out if I lived there I might end up just saying fuck it and not vote.

Now if they were running a solid "blue dog" democrat against him that might be different.

 

[panamaican]

You end up voting for who would do the least harm to the issues you support. At the worst you just say fuck it and don't vote for anyone.

Political office is not a beauty contest it centers on the issues and how they affect them. There are plenty of Republicans in office I don't think much off but I know how they are going to vote on an issue and it's how I want them to vote. I may disagree with there personal life, I may even think they are a asshole. I may not agree with them on some issues.
Now if they commit a crime fuck them kick them out.

In this case as more comes out if I lived there I might end up just saying fuck it and not vote.

Now if they were running a solid "blue dog" democrat against him that might be different.

Like I said I find it hard to believe that a mentally ill person is going to do less harm to the country. Maybe if people are only thinking about media hot button issues but those aren't what Congress is doing most of the time. Congress passes between 600-1000 laws a year and deals with over 15000 proposed bills and amendments. It's not all immigration borders, CRT and abortion. If that's all people are thinking about then they're ignoring 95% of the job.

And to hire a mentally ill person to over see 10000+ items when someone really cares about only 5 of them is insane to me.

 

[emefer]

Joke, a dumbass: Herschel Walker…

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I agree he is not someone I would actively support but if you live there what are your other choices. A democrat that is going to actively work against issues you support. If I lived there and there was a republican other then him to run I would rather that.

Despite the constant claims that the left has gone crazy and that the right hasn't changed at all, Republican primary voters keep picking nut jobs like Trump, Walker, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Paul Gosar, Roy Moore, etc. to represent them. So maybe stop the projection and take a look in the mirror. Walker and Gosar's own family members have come out publicly to inform us that they are horrible people who can't be trusted. Walker's trying to claim that his mother has a full-blood Cherokee mother. She knows his lying and is letting us know that he is lying. Or maybe one of his alters is speaking for him and thinks that's the truth.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

Like I said I find it hard to believe that a mentally ill person is going to do less harm to the country. Maybe if people are only thinking about media hot button issues but those aren't what Congress is doing most of the time. Congress passes between 600-1000 laws a year and deals with over 15000 proposed bills and amendments. It's not all immigration borders, CRT and abortion. If that's all people are thinking about then they're ignoring 95% of the job.

And to hire a mentally ill person to over see 10000+ items when someone really cares about only 5 of them is insane to me.

We're potentially going to have a mentally ill person who has alternate personalities and is a compulsive liar representing us. Someone who appears to have a low IQ and brain damage from repetitive head trauma. His son says he's lying about being a good father and not paying for an abortion. Walker claimed he didn't know the woman but now admits that she's the mother of one of his many children that he had outside of wedlock and largely abandoned. And when he was around, he was abusive. His son says it's his handwriting and signature on the get well card after the abortion. His own mother says he's blatantly lying about her mother being Native American. What's he going to lie about next? What new personality will he develop next?

 

[panamaican]

We're potentially going to have a mentally ill person who has alternate personalities and is a compulsive liar representing us. Someone who appears to have a low IQ and brain damage from repetitive head trauma. His son says he's lying about being a good father and not paying for an abortion. Walker claimed he didn't know the woman but now admits that she's the mother of one of his many children that he had outside of wedlock and largely abandoned. And when he was around, he was abusive. His son says it's his handwriting and signature on the get well card after the abortion. His own mother says he's blatantly lying about her mother being Native American. What's he going to lie about next? What new personality will he develop next?

I know you mention this as well but is this really what the GOP has turned into? That list of outright horrible people in your previous post being elected to make decisions for the rest of us simply because of party?

I can understand people not like the Dems candidates because of policy but they're not running outright horrible people. The GOP is running horrible people and then excusing it because those horrible people will vote a certain way on a extremely small amount of Congressional issues. If it's only about 5 or so issues, are there really no candidates who are also decent human beings available to run for those seats?

Of course there are. But the GOP has reached a point where part of how they differentiate themselves from the Democrats is that they want horrible people. They want the most polarizing and unlikeable individuals representing them. Then they cheerlead the inexcusable just because "the libs" point out that it is indeed inexcusable.

A point I continuously raise and re-raise is how much the GOP has come to define themselves as "the opposite of whatever the Dems are". A position that really tells us just how little they are now acting on principles of government. If the Dems go left, the GOP is going right...even if that takes them over a cliff. If the Dems say "respect everyone", the GOP is going to run on "I don't have to respect anyone." If Dems say put on your seat belt, the GOP will insist on driving as fast as possible without one.

It's contrarianism for the sake of being contrary.

And now they'll support an openly fucked up individual because he says that he opposes abortion...while having paid for one. He says that he's a Christian but he cheated on his wife numerous times, doesn't raise his kids and generally does not act like a Christian. But he says these things and libs say the opposite therefore he's worth voting for. I cannot wait for the pendulum swing back to voting for candidates who actually practice what they preach.

 

[Hollywood Jack]

I know you mention this as well but is this really what the GOP has turned into? That list of outright horrible people in your previous post being elected to make decisions for the rest of us simply because of party?

I can understand people not like the Dems candidates because of policy but they're not running outright horrible people. The GOP is running horrible people and then excusing it because those horrible people will vote a certain way on a extremely small amount of Congressional issues. If it's only about 5 or so issues, are there really no candidates who are also decent human beings available to run for those seats?

Of course there are. But the GOP has reached a point where part of how they differentiate themselves from the Democrats is that they want horrible people. They want the most polarizing and unlikeable individuals representing them. Then they cheerlead the inexcusable just because "the libs" point out that it is indeed inexcusable.

A point I continuously raise and re-raise is how much the GOP has come to define themselves as "the opposite of whatever the Dems are". A position that really tells us just how little they are now acting on principles of government. If the Dems go left, the GOP is going right...even if that takes them over a cliff. If the Dems say "respect everyone", the GOP is going to run on "I don't have to respect anyone." If Dems say put on your seat belt, the GOP will insist on driving as fast as possible without one.

It's contrarianism for the sake of being contrary.

And now they'll support an openly fucked up individual because he says that he opposes abortion...while having paid for one. He says that he's a Christian but he cheated on his wife numerous times, doesn't raise his kids and generally does not act like a Christian. But he says these things and libs say the opposite therefore he's worth voting for. I cannot wait for the pendulum swing back to voting for candidates who actually practice what they preach.

They're voting for him because he claims to be a "Christian" yet he's running against an actual reverend. Someone who appears to have made a good faith effort to walk the straight and narrow path. Who had children inside of wedlock and not out of it like Walker did many times. Who didn't abuse women and children like Walker did.

You and I appear to have similar backgrounds. At a certain point, I had to say no mas and left the Party. And then I developed an ideology that was quite different. If you still consider yourself to be ideologically conservative or center-right, then good luck getting your Party back, or finding a new one which is viable. It's got to suck not being represented by a major political party (which is how I feel about Democrats for the most part). But I can imagine you're completely alienated by both major parties...

 

[panamaican]

They're voting for him because he claims to be a "Christian" yet he's running against an actual reverend. Someone who appears to have made a good faith effort to walk the straight and narrow path. Who had children inside of wedlock and not out of it like Walker did many times. Who didn't abuse women and children like Walker did.

You and I appear to have similar backgrounds. At a certain point, I had to say no mas and left the Party. And then I developed an ideology that was quite different. If you still consider yourself to be ideologically conservative or center-right, then good luck getting your Party back, or finding a new one which is viable. It's got to suck not being represented by a major political party (which is how I feel about Democrats for the most part). But I can imagine you're completely alienated by both major parties...

Yeah, I can't fully leave the party yet I remain disgusted by some of the people they're trotting out. I keep, foolishly, thinking that we're going to say "that guy isn't qualified..." but it's not happening. Maybe I'm just an idiot, lol.

 

[Sick85]

I haven’t been paying attention to much of Herschel stuff but what I have seen he reminds me of a little of Tito talking, which is terrible to listen too. Lol