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What do you mean only 10 people are interested in? Fighters like Angela Lee and Stamp Fairtex are huge stars in mma already
The UFC should abolish women's fw for atomweight.
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What do you mean only 10 people are interested in? Fighters like Angela Lee and Stamp Fairtex are huge stars in mma already
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Let me look at a short history of title FW fights:
Anderson v Nunes - awful
Spencer v Nunes - She was a punching bag for 5 rounds
Cyborg v Nunes - Deserved a rematch, never got it
Cyborg vs Kunitskaya - awful. Yana can fight at BW fine and has been for years.
Cyborg vs Holm - Somewhat competitive. Holm makes BW though and is actually "elite" considering her competition
Cyborg vs Evinger - I'm not even trying to be rude, who?
GDR vs Holm - Clearly a GDR win.
FW is just too thin to keep around. Even the title fights are mostly duds.
Anderson v Nunes - awful
Spencer v Nunes - She was a punching bag for 5 rounds
Cyborg v Nunes - Deserved a rematch, never got it
Cyborg vs Kunitskaya - awful. Yana can fight at BW fine and has been for years.
Cyborg vs Holm - Somewhat competitive. Holm makes BW though and is actually "elite" considering her competition
Cyborg vs Evinger - I'm not even trying to be rude, who?
GDR vs Holm - Clearly a GDR win.
FW is just too thin to keep around. Even the title fights are mostly duds.
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Man, I've no idea why MMA Fans are so dumb like that and have the brain of Patrick star??!! not all the things MMA fans want be right, not all the time, even there are things/outcomes I wished for it to happen other than what it already happened but it was a wise decision that it happened, so from what I'm saying, not all the time things MMA fans want can be a wise decision.
And I'm saying here that abolishing W-FW would be a very ridiculous and a dumb decision, like, tell me then, other than Angela Lee or Stamp Fairtex, who else to buy for W-AW? what if W-AW could eventually get abolished like how you fans want W-FW to be abolished? tell me all the names that you can find from other MMA organizations that can build up UFC's W-AW then if you're very knowledgable, so yeah, like, shouldn't we continue on from what we started? like serious talk, think about it.
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Honestly, I’m of the opinion they should keep 145. Scrap the 135 belt and have all 135ers fight at 145.
Combine two shallow divisions into one decently sized one. Like the women’s version of HW
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Man, you know something? I believe the UFC could've done the W-FW better had they started the division with TUF, just like they did W-SW and W-FLY, also when you look at W-FLY, it started since 2017, and by time, look how the division has been built and became stacked rn? but we'll see, I gave all of my opinions and all of my thoughts, but we'll see, whatever, so yeah.
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Cyborg doesn’t want that comp really shit smeared a post I am sure had many thoughtful points. Hard to look past a glaring dookie butter smear. Sorry. Wash your butt friend
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They did but all the girls from W-FW TUF dropped down to 135.
Macy Chassion was the winner of that season
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Because women who are fit and can weigh 145 after a weight cut are rare unicorns. Yet you want to keep 145. Atomweight is the natural weight class of the majority of women after 115. Honestly the talent pool might be even greater than 115
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And you know what? I believe if we just give the division time, it will be stacked, it wasn't stacked cause Nunes a 2 division champ, after defending her W-FW title twice but each defense from Spencer to Megan was 9 months, Nunes hasn't defended her title since then and was busy having her rivalry with Pena, and derail another Mexican fighter before retirement, but with how she retired, any fighter in the W-FW can be champion, and then, all the fighters can work their way up to the title, any fighter from this division that the UFC has rn, and from any other MMA organization.
They did that with Men's Flyweight, DJ was champ from 2012-2018, and the division has gotten better and more stacked, but why they don't want to do so with the bigger women? plus the bigger women's division already had 3 champs.
I'm just saying my opinion, nothing else, at the end of the day, I'm not the president, but we'll see how things will go.
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GDR winning the title against Holly, Nunes beating Cyborg and leaving were the 2 worst things that happened to this division, especially with GDR's terrible win, hitting Holly after the bell multiple times, and got a terrible SD win when Holly should've got it.
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She could have stayed, but instead tried to play games and be manipulative, something which she openly admitted to. Then she left. It was a pretty good career choice. She's not getting any younger and there's nothing dumb about wanting to spend the twilight years of your career fighting lower level girls and dabbling in boxing.
That's not a shit stain. That's reality.
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Cyborg leaving had zero to do with lesser competition and all to do with trying to manipulate more. Let’s not forget the company President and one of the main spokespeople for the company completely disrespected her as a woman. I don’t know what women you deal with but expecting no clap back in the end there is retarded
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Didn't really understand your first paragraph. Lots of rambling and I have no idea idea who Patrick Star. NFL player or something?
You say we should continue on from what we started, but FW is literally less now than what it was when it was started. Plenty of the girls they had in it are gone. Spencer, Anderson, Cyborg, Nunes, Malecki, that black french girl, etc. There's like what, 2-3 girls in that division now.
And as for AWs. Stamp, and Lee might be able to be tempted over with enough cash, but ONE FC would probably pay big to keep them. Other than those two, they could get Ham, Hirata, DeCoursey, Hamasaki, Park, Izawa, Zapatella, Delboni, Dos Santos, etc, and there's plenty more. Girls like Waterson and Tecia would probably try and drop down as well. Pretty sure they've both said they'd be at AW if they could. Waterson might not be interested these days though.
You get a lot of those girls and some prospects and the division is already 10x deeper than the FW division ever was.
Or you keep FW, and you have . . . Dumont, Josi Nunes, and now Rosa if she stays there. That's basically outside of girls they can tempt to fatten up and take a fight in the division.
There's girls outside of the UFC they could get. PFL and Bellator have way deeper FW divisions, but none of those girls are going to leave established divisions where they are so they can come over to a division that the UFC has shown absolutely no interest in developing from the start. Like, why would they? Get paid in PFL and maybe win a million dollars or come to the UFC for a division that is 4 girls deep and has no love from the promotion. It's not a hard decision.
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I'm not for abolishing wmma completely but the rooster for each division should be like 17-22 per division except for bw which should be like 12-15 and fw should be axed completely
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Cyborg was difficult from the start while the UFC had bent over backwards to create a division for her.
And she did choose to go fight lesser comp. She could have not caused drama and stayed in the UFC. She chose not to. She chose lesser comp. I'm not saying that as a knock on her. She made the best decision. Most fighters wouldn't have had the smarts to do what she did.
And now look at her: she's in a position to just keep making easy cash until she gets bored and decides to retire, and she has no restrictions on boxing or doing whatever else.
Girl took a loss and made the absolute most of it.
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MAYBE 12 people if we really push it and include their family members.
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Bro do you think comp level was honestly on her mind? You have no clue about women lol. They called her a man while in a position of power over her and Joe having a huge platform. I don’t know what in your mind would make you believe that relationship wasn’t going to end with Cyborg being catty but you need to reexamine your understanding. ESPECIALLY if she can go down the road be respected and still get paid. You literally used lesser comp like that was her primary goal. It’s disingenuous and misleading as to what was all at play in those circumstances
