International Hamas launches surprise attack on Israel; Israel has declared a state of war. Vol. IV

[meauneau]

Yes. It's been going on since before october 7th.

The IDF intentionally kills children. Sorry if that's news to you.

West Bank: Spike in Israeli Killings of Palestinian Children

The Israeli military and border police forces are killing Palestinian children with virtually no recourse for accountability.

www.hrw.org

Their snipers target unarmed children (not that it matter whether they are unarmed or not).

 

[kflo]

I've got an Israeli source as well. Are you gonna call an Israeli humans rights organisation a bunch of liars with your blind denial of reality?

https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/2018_unlawful_gunfire_against_protesters_in_return_marches

You claimed infanticide. If you recant I can maybe acknowledge you’re not a blatant liar.

Thx for the 2018 article.

 

[Bob Gray]

Unfortunately that's not a lie.

By all agreed upon definitions Israel is committing indiscriminate attacks against children.

This page lists the war-crimes committed by both sides in this conflict. Israel's section is a lot bigger.

War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You're claimng Israel isn't killing children now?

Wow, it didnt take long to start spreading those goal posts.

indiscriminate attacks against children =/= children being killed.

 

[meauneau]

You claimed infanticide. If you recant I can maybe acknowledge you’re not a blatant liar.

Thx for the 2018 article.

Do you deny that some IDF militants target children? Can you acknowledge that this happens?

 

[Bob Gray]

Their snipers target unarmed children (not that it matter whether they are unarmed or not).

You posted that vid awhile back but then never responded when I asked for a reputable source.

What is the source for Israeli snipers targeting unarmed children?

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it might have been some other dude with a Terminator AV. Still, same question

 

[meauneau]

Anyway, Israel got caught lying again

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago​

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

www.nytimes.com

 

[meauneau]

You posted that vid awhile back but then never responded when I asked for a reputable source.

What is the source for Israeli snipers targeting unarmed children?

You want me to take you back in time and put you there so you can see it first person?

Do you hold the same standards of evidence also when it comes to videos showing Hamas taking Israeli hostages? Or do you have double standards?

 

[kflo]

Do you deny that some IDF militants target children? Can you acknowledge that this happens?

I can only address the specifics of individual incidents. I’m not aware of any incidents where innocent children are “targeted” by snipers. There have been incidents where children are killed by sniper fire.

It’s certainly not a policy or an accepted practice.

 

[meauneau]

I can only address the specifics of individual incidents. I’m not aware of any incidents where innocent children are “targeted” by snipers. There have been incidents where children c.

You really like to play with semantics don't you?

There have been journalists, doctors and children murdered by terrorist snipers from the IDF. But you like to call it incidents where journalists, doctors and children are killed by sniper fire. As it it's not the same thing.

A sniper could shoot an apple on a child's head, they know what they are doing. Stop siding with terrorists.

 

[kflo]

You really like to play with semantics don't you?

There have been journalists, doctors and children murdered by terrorist snipers from the IDF. But you like to call it incidents where journalists, doctors and children are killed by sniper fire. As it it's not the same thing.

A sniper could shoot an apple on a child's head, they know what they are doing. Stop siding with terrorists.

Post a link and we can discuss what happened. Again we previously discussed a doctor that was killed, who happened to be fighting alongside terrorists.

it’s not policy and it’s not practice and it’s very rare.


And again this tangent is only because someone else blatantly lied claiming infanticide.

 

[meauneau]

BTW mods, if you feel like one of my posts is in violation of the rules then delete just that one, no need to delete every post, right?

 

[jimbob27]

I can only address the specifics of individual incidents. I’m not aware of any incidents where innocent children are “targeted” by snipers. There have been incidents where children are killed by sniper fire.

It’s certainly not a policy or an accepted practice.

What about the instances outlined in the links I posted?

Wow, it didnt take long to start spreading those goal posts.

indiscriminate attacks against children =/= children being killed.

To commit infanticide, you don't have to kill all the children.

The links I posted directly talk about the IDF intentionally killing children. ie.. commiting infanticide.

 

[meauneau]

Post a link and we can discuss what happened. Again we previously discussed a doctor that was killed, who happened to be fighting alongside terrorists.

it’s not policy and it’s not practice and it’s very rare.


And again this tangent is only because someone else blatantly lied claiming infanticide.

There are so many and in everyone of them Israel denies it was the IDF. Shireen Abu Akleh for example, Israel says it was a Hamas sniper.

Israel is know to lie about it's crimes. When the most respected human rights organisations accuse Israel of violations it lies and denies what everyone knows is true. The even lied about what happened on 7/10, they knew about it

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

www.nytimes.com

They lied about the killing when hundreds of Israelis were killed by the IDF.

 

[kflo]

What about the instances outlined in the links I posted?



To commit infanticide, you don't have to kill all the children.

The links I posted directly talk about the IDF intentionally killing children. ie.. commiting infanticide.

Wow you’re doubling down on infanticide. Fuckin shameless. And embarrassing.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Hmm. What reason would someone call “zionists” genocidal? They certainly aren’t very good at genocide even though they have all the means. What reason could there be…??? Can someone else help?

They're creeping up on 20,000 killed Palestinians in a lil over a month while still maintaining international support, I'd say they are doing a good job by those metrics...

 

[jimbob27]

Wow you’re doubling down on infanticide. Fuckin shameless.

And you're doubling down on sticking your head in the sand.

How about an America source?

Is everyone who says things you don't like a liar?

More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in just 3 weeks of war

More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in the first 25 days of the Israel-Hamas war, according to Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry.

apnews.com

 

[kflo]

And you're doubling down on sticking your head in the sand.

How about an America source?

Is everyone who says things you don't like a liar?

More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in just 3 weeks of war

More than 3,600 Palestinian children were killed in the first 25 days of the Israel-Hamas war, according to Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry.

apnews.com

Just acknowledge you don’t even understand what the word means.

 

[jimbob27]

Just acknowledge you don’t even understand what the word means.

The definition is very simple.

Definition of INFANTICIDE

the killing of an infant; one who kills an infant… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

infanticide​

1: the killing of an infant

2 : one who kills an infant

 

[meauneau]

Just acknowledge you don’t even understand what the word means.

So for you thousands of children and babies killed is just a matter of semantics? Is it like this for all children and babies or only if Palestinian?

 

[jimbob27]

So for you thousands of children and babies killed is just a matter of semantics? Is it like this for all children and babies or only if Palestinian?

He's calling me shameless whilst openly denying atrocities. Completely spun round in circles.

UN chief says Gaza becoming a 'graveyard for children'

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said on Monday that the protection of civilians "must be paramount" in the conflict between Israel and Palestinian militants Hamas, warning that the Gaza Strip was becoming "a graveyard for children."

www.reuters.com

Why would the UN chief say something like this if it wasn't happening?