Media Jake Paul offered Strickland $1 mil to spar and Strickland turned it down

[NoSmilez]

They get paid to do it all the time, its regular practice in combat sports.

I think you are very obtuse about this. When I say make money from it. I mean trying to monetize the footage behind a paywall.

 

[jitzmonkey]

Dude, Jake isn't "on the other side of the equation," he's dating Jutta Leerdam ffs.

I don't know what any of that means.

 

[jitzmonkey]

I think you are very obtuse about this. When I say make money from it. I mean trying to monetize the footage behind a paywall.

Even if they didn't monetize it in that way (good call btw,) he could very easily get all sorts of sponsorship especially for the uploaded/edited version.

 

[Stump]

I don't know what any of that means.

I took your phrase to mean "he is gay" and then disagreed by pointing out he's a dude who is dating one of the hottest female human beings to have existed. So. He's not gay. Or, not "from the other side of the equation" as it were

 

[blaseblase]

But... you must know this is much different, tho right? Like you aren't that dumb, right? Often a fighter will pay sparring partners for their services.

This is entirely different the "sparring partner" here is a social media tycoon who has outright challenged and offered money to Sean. It's completely, categorically different than a sparring partner.

If I walked into the bank with a gun and a mask and said I wanted to "make a withdrawal" that would be a bank robbery and to try and compare that to Mr Jones who came in 2 hours earlier and waited in line to deposit his social security cheque... that would be almost as silly a comparison as to compare Jake Paul offering a million dollars to spar Sean Strickland. He might say it's "sparring" but to anyone with half a functioning brain, It is clearly a prize fight undertaken to garner usable video that can be used for clicks and views online... this is way beyond obvious.

The bank robber analogy you tried to make is one of the dumbest things I've read here and is completely nonsensical. He's not holding a gun to Strickland, hes asking him to come train with him.

Let's establish a few things.

1. Fighters spar whoever and wherever they want. The UFC has no say in this.

2. Fighters regularly record their sparring and post it online. The UFC has no right to whatever monetization they are able to get through clicks and views. They don't own fighters' bodies my guy.

3. Fighters regularly pay their sparring partners that they bring in. At the top levels they are flying them out, paying for their accomodations, and paying them for their services.

4. Jake being a YouTuber doesn't make any of the above not true. Obviously he's doing this for attention. That doesn't change the fact the UFC has no say in this.

 

[Stump]

I think you are very obtuse about this. When I say make money from it. I mean trying to monetize the footage behind a paywall.

It would not have to happen behind a pay wall for this to be the case.

 

[Contempt]

Im with Jake Paul on this...he pretty much did the same when he beat the skinny guy, now doing it with Jake Paul becomes an "exhibition"?? Boxers and MMA guys spar all the time with other pros, a lot of times it goes behind closed doors and they love to talk on how they did beat someone in sparring...the UFC doesnt have a problem with that, now they do if its Jake Paul? BS...

He offered him a million dollars to do it so Jake could record it and use it as content.

Of course the UFC wouldn't allow that. He's under contract.

 

[jitzmonkey]

I took your phrase to mean "he is gay" and then disagreed by pointing out he's a dude who is dating one of the hottest female human beings to have existed. So. He's not gay. Or, not "from the other side of the equation" as it were

1. I don't recall ever seeing/hearing that phrase in anything near that context (not arguing its use; new to me.)
2. Good on Jake, any "lower body athlete" (because skating) * should be a lot of "fun."

 

[Contempt]

The bank robber analogy you tried to make is one of the dumbest things I've read here and is completely nonsensical. He's not holding a gun to Strickland, hes asking him to come train with him.

Let's establish a few things.

1. Fighters spar whoever and wherever they want. The UFC has no say in this.

2. Fighters regularly record their sparring and post it online. The UFC has no right to whatever monetization they are able to get through clicks and views. They don't own fighters' bodies my guy.

3. Fighters regularly pay their sparring partners that they bring in. At the top levels they are flying them out, paying for their accomodations, and paying them for their services.

4. Jake being a YouTuber doesn't make any of the above not true. Obviously he's doing this for attention. That doesn't change the fact the UFC has no say in this.

Jake is offering him a million dollars to come fight him on camera for content for his channel.

You can try and justify it however you like but there is zero chance the UFC is letting a fighter under contract, go fight someone on camera for money.

 

[Stump]

The bank robber analogy you tried to make is one of the dumbest things I've read here and is completely nonsensical. He's not holding a gun to Strickland, hes asking him to come train with him.

Let's establish a few things.

1. Fighters spar whoever and wherever they want. The UFC has no say in this.

2. Fighters regularly record their sparring and post it online. The UFC has no right to whatever monetization they are able to get through clicks and views. They don't own fighters' bodies my guy.

3. Fighters regularly pay their sparring partners that they bring in. At the top levels they are flying them out, paying for their accomodations, and paying them for their services.

Jake being a YouTuber doesn't make any of the above not true.

That's not how analogies work, you fucking potato.

Who pays sparring partners? - Does the fighter whom is training pay sparring partners? Do they come for more than a single sparring session? Do they traditionally sign NDAs to keep yhe details of their sparring secret?

Or, does the person offer yo come in, pay a million dollars for the honor of sparring for a single session and, presumably, record video thereof? Does this seem different to you? Hmmmmm...

 

[Stump]

1. I don't recall ever seeing/hearing that phrase in anything near that context (not arguing its use; new to me.)
2. Good on Jake, any "lower body athlete" (because skating) is should be a lot of "fun."

It was a novel phrase. I was making a joke. There are a million similar ones. Bats for the other team. Lives on the other side of the tracks. Etc.

 

[NoSmilez]

Even if they didn't monetize it in that way (good call btw,) he could very easily get all sorts of sponsorship especially for the uploaded/edited version.

My whole premise is that they can spar whoever they want. The issue is monetizing the footage. The UFC doesn't like that. I am not even sure another sponsorship will circumvent this issue. There is this statement with Sean saying Hunter told him that Jake doesn't sell PPVs therefore this issue is dead in the water.

Jake isn't going to pay Strickland just for sparring. He wants footage of it too so he can make money. Strickland wants to make money too. I don't believe the promotion cares who Strickland spars on his free time. It's the matter of them trying to set up a payday without the promotion.

 

[Ornife]

Im with Jake Paul on this...he pretty much did the same when he beat the skinny guy, now doing it with Jake Paul becomes an "exhibition"?? Boxers and MMA guys spar all the time with other pros, a lot of times it goes behind closed doors and they love to talk on how they did beat someone in sparring...the UFC doesnt have a problem with that, now they do if its Jake Paul? BS...

I agree that it sounds similar to sparring the Twitter poster but I think the issue for the UFC would be that Jake Paul markets himself as a competitor to the organization. The UFC, and Dana White, are known to be extremely petty and it wouldn't surprise me that they would be extremely litigious in this circumstance.

 

[jitzmonkey]

The bank robber analogy you tried to make is one of the dumbest things I've read here and is completely nonsensical. He's not holding a gun to Strickland, hes asking him to come train with him.

Let's establish a few things.

1. Fighters spar whoever and wherever they want. The UFC has no say in this.

2. Fighters regularly record their sparring and post it online. The UFC has no right to whatever monetization they are able to get through clicks and views. They don't own fighters' bodies my guy.

3. Fighters regularly pay their sparring partners that they bring in. At the top levels they are flying them out, paying for their accomodations, and paying them for their services.

4. Jake being a YouTuber doesn't make any of the above not true. Obviously he's doing this for attention. That doesn't change the fact the UFC has no say in this.

While all true, since Jake is not only a content creator but one who has some sort of ownership or just a business interest specifically in PFL, I could definitely see the UFC being able to take punitive action regarding matchups, timing, promotion, etc...

 

[Ornife]

Isn't Strickland an 'Independent Contractor'? She should be able to do what he wants.

 

[jitzmonkey]

My whole premise is that they can spar whoever they want. The issue is monetizing the footage. The UFC doesn't like that. I am not even sure another sponsorship will circumvent this issue. There is this statement with Sean saying Hunter told him that Jake doesn't sell PPVs therefore this issue is dead in the water.

Jake isn't going to pay Strickland just for sparring. He wants footage of it too so he can make money. Strickland wants to make money too. I don't believe the promotion cares who Strickland spars on his free time. It's the matter of them trying to set up a payday without the promotion.

Right I'm totally with you!
And while you're probably spot on, there are so many different angles/methods for Jake Paul to make a ton of money off of it even if it's not a PPV.

 

[El Fernas]

He offered him a million dollars to do it so Jake could record it and use it as content.

Of course the UFC wouldn't allow that. He's under contract.

So, all the footage we saw of him beating the skinny guy wasnt "content"??

 

[wwkirk]

I don't know what any of that means.

FYI: Jutta Leerdam

 

[Stump]

So, all the footage we saw of him beating the skinny guy wasnt "content"??

This is a good point and sort of underlines the grey area of professional athlete/ social media magnate that is embodied by Jake Paul. In the old days it would be like, okay spar whoever the fuck you want but you cant fight for money. But that was when "fighting for money" was a much harder standard to reach. Nowadays, anybody with a cellphone and a sufficient following can record footage of something that could make millions.

It's an interesting perspective on the nature of promoters and combat sports. Before, you used to need millions of dollars, access to a massive sports coliseums and contracts with broadcasters in order to host a prize fight that would make any money. Now, as Jake Paul repeatedly claims and demonstrates, the promoters are becoming obsolete. Promotion can be done by the fighters themselves, filming, seating and distribution is an afterthought.

 

[Stump]

FYI: Jutta Leerdam
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How incredible is it that you can post photos of Jutta that demonstrate what a stone Cold fox she is, and they don't even show her ass.

That would be like showing photos of Niagara falls that just showed the river above and below the falls.