Opinion MAID is Not Only Unethical, It's Murder

[dirtypablo]

The problem here is that her problems ARE curable, its just that western medicine doesn't know the cure. Have this woman do a week long silent meditation retreat focused on lovingkindness, then take a heroic dose of mushrooms and get back to me on the state of that depression.

Its hard to support this when you know there is cure but that she isn't aware of the cure.

 

[deadshot138]

Healthy or not, Assisted Suicide should be a basic human right for every adult.
The "You can't die, because I've decided you haven't suffered enough" perspective is disgusting.

You’re conflating totally different diseases, including ones that can be treated with results with one experts admit they can’t treat successfully, to make a weak point.

Mental illness is often the root of addictive behavior

 

[dirtypablo]

Totally healthy? The article details her multiple conditions experts admit they cannot cure. What are you talking about?

What experts? A bunch of doctors who know nothing about the nature of the mind and how to cure these types of problems? If they're not capable of solving these types of problems, then they're not really experts are they?

 

[KOPPE]

Its hard to support this when you know there is cure but that she isn't aware of the cure.

Why should we force her to continue her life and make her seek unreliable methods of ending it? It doesn't matter whether you're young, old , physically ill, mentally ill or simply don't feel like continuing your life, you should be able to end your life with dignity.

 

[Gutter Chris]

Healthy or not, Assisted Suicide should be a basic human right for every adult.
The "You can't die, because I've decided you haven't suffered enough" perspective is disgusting.

No

Assisted suicide should be for the terminally Ill.

There's nothing stopping this bitch from killing herself right now if she wants to, but doctors should not be in the business of killing young morons because their head isn't in the right place.

Your perspective is the disgusting one.

 

[dirtypablo]

Why should we force her to continue her life and make her seek unreliable methods of ending it? It doesn't matter whether you're young, old , physically ill, mentally ill or simply don't feel like continuing your life, you should be able to end your life with dignity.

If I go to my doctor and tell him that I want to kill myself because I don't want to feel the pain of burning alive when the sun explodes next week, would you support the doctor killing me? Or should the doctor explain to me that the sun isn't going to explode next week?

That's whats happening here. This woman believes something that isn't true, and based on that incorrect information, she wants to kill herself.

 

[dirtypablo]

BPD, depression, anxiety, other stuff.

Are you familiar with internal family systems?

 

[KOPPE]

No

Assisted suicide should be for the terminally Ill.

There's nothing stopping this bitch from killing herself right now if she wants to, but doctors should not be in the business of killing young morons because their head isn't in the right place.

Your perspective is the disgusting one.

Yes

The right to die (for any reason) is as fundamental as the right to live (for any reason).

Failure to recognize this fact is the failure of civilization.

Saying "You must not die" is as absurd as "You must not breathe".

 

[dirtypablo]

Yes

The right to die (for any reason) is as fundamental as the right to live (for any reason).

Failure to recognize this fact is the failure of civilization.

Saying "You must not die" is as absurd as "You must not breathe".

There's a pretty big difference between, I have a right to die, and doctors should help people kill themselves under any circumstances.

 

[KOPPE]

If I go to my doctor and tell him that I want to kill myself because I don't want to feel the pain of burning alive when the sun explodes next week, would you support the doctor killing me? Or should the doctor explain to me that the sun isn't going to explode next week?

That's whats happening here. This woman believes something that isn't true, and based on that incorrect information, she wants to kill herself.

I would because it's your decision.
Everyone is going to die eventually. Some in a horrifying manner.
What does a dignified death look like and why should that not be an alternative to a drawn out agony?

 

[KOPPE]

There's a pretty big difference between, I have a right to die, and doctors should help people kill themselves under any circumstances.

I was talking about assisted suicide. you need assistance from doctors to do that.

 

[Scerpi]

Physically healthy Dutch woman, 28, decides to be euthanized due to crippling depression

She is just one of the growing number of people in the West who have decided to die rather than continue living in pain that, unlike a terminal illness, could be treated.

nypost.com

Totally healthy woman decides she wants to die and the government will help her do so. Mind you, if she took this matter into her own hands, she would be detained against her will in a mental health facility. This article walks through the process and I'm not sure how a doctor with good conscience could come in, have a cup of coffee with the patient, and then ask if they're ready to die. It seems immoral and unethical at a minimum and shouldn't even be legal. Society is taking a horrifying turn.

Hmmm…

And we were told death panels wouldn’t be an actual thing

“She said she decided to be euthanized after her doctors told her, “There’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better,””

These doctors should lose their license and go to prison

 

[fedoriswar37]

Healthy or not, Assisted Suicide should be a basic human right for every adult.
The "You can't die, because I've decided you haven't suffered enough" perspective is disgusting.

Oh fuck off with this "basic human right" bullshit.

Drugs should be a basic human right cause people deserveeeeeee to feel high. That' how stupid your statement sounds.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Hmmm…

And we were told death panels wouldn’t be an actual thing

“She said she decided to be euthanized after her doctors told her, “There’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better,””

These doctors should lose their license and go to prison

This is my thought, outside of the maid argument. Like what kind of a fucking statement is that from a medical professional . She's 28. Like fuck you have tried everything. Complete medical malpractice.

 

[KOPPE]

Oh fuck off with this "basic human right" bullshit.

Drugs should be a basic human right cause people deserveeeeeee to feel high. That' how stupid your statement sounds.

Nice strawman, Dumbfuck. to the Ignore list you go.

 

[fedoriswar37]

The problem here is that her problems ARE curable, its just that western medicine doesn't know the cure. Have this woman do a week long silent meditation retreat focused on lovingkindness, then take a heroic dose of mushrooms and get back to me on the state of that depression.

Its hard to support this when you know there is cure but that she isn't aware of the cure.

Not to mention all the people who have overcome similar or worse issues

 

[fedoriswar37]

Nice strawman, Dumbfuck. to the Ignore list you go.

Ignore list must be a basic human right as well. Clown. Thank God I won't have to listen to you regurgitate stupid catchphrases anymore.

 

[Scerpi]

No

Assisted suicide should be for the terminally Ill.

There's nothing stopping this bitch from killing herself right now if she wants to, but doctors should not be in the business of killing young morons because their head isn't in the right place.

Your perspective is the disgusting one.

Worse yet… from the article, her doctors seemed to encourage her to kill herself

Fucking disgusting if true

 

[Poon Goon]

Ignore list must be a basic human right as well. Clown. Thank God I won't have to listen to you regurgitate stupid catchphrases anymore.

If he puts you on his ignore list I'm pretty sure you'll still see what he writes. You'd have to put him on your ignore list to stop seeing his posts.

 

[lilelvis]

Just another on the long list of effects of runaway climate change.