UFC 287: Pereira vs. Adesanya 2

Barnett out

Karl Williams in.

My prediction is pick'em line but we'll see.
 
Was actually looking forward to Barnett vs Sherman. This is a horrible matchup for Sherman. Can't see him winning this one. No value in the moneyline on either side
 
Any thoughts on Chiesa vs Buckley? I always seem to overestimate Buckley... and once again I feel like there is value on Buckley.
Why can't he do what he did against Duraev again? It's not like Chieasa has this crazy takedown speed. Buckley could use his athleticism to keep distance and win on the feet, no?
What worries me, might be the size difference.
 
Danis_champ said:
perhaps but he looked shit vs Brzeski but I think he is better than that performance. Brzeski even more low level than Sherman.
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I actually don't know if Brzeski is more low level than Sherman lol. Jake Collier of all people wrestled Sherman and ran him over in 2 minutes. Williams smashes here pretty easily.
 
Jasper_RB81 said:
Any thoughts on Chiesa vs Buckley? I always seem to overestimate Buckley... and once again I feel like there is value on Buckley.
Why can't he do what he did against Duraev again? It's not like Chieasa has this crazy takedown speed. Buckley could use his athleticism to keep distance and win on the feet, no?
What worries me, might be the size difference.
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Damn didnt even know that was announced. I usually bet against Buckley but if he makes weight, I might be on him.
 
Jasper_RB81 said:
Any thoughts on Chiesa vs Buckley? I always seem to overestimate Buckley... and once again I feel like there is value on Buckley.
Why can't he do what he did against Duraev again? It's not like Chieasa has this crazy takedown speed. Buckley could use his athleticism to keep distance and win on the feet, no?
What worries me, might be the size difference.
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Logic of Buckley being good unless he gets chinned hasnt let me down so far. Dont think Chiesa is knocking him out though he did land good shot or two on Brady.
 
mkess101 said:
Odds super wide. He's -450.
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Strongly disagreeing with this one. Williams looked so gassy in his last fight and Brzeski is just so bad and has terrible gas tank as well. Sherman's TDD is actually not that bad and he has way better gas tank than Brezki. Also throws like 3x more volume than Williams. Williams also short notice. From stylistical standpoint it's understandable why Williams is the favorite but this line is clearly too wide. Value on Sherman.
 
Danis_champ said:
Strongly disagreeing with this one. Williams looked so gassy in his last fight and Brzeski is just so bad and has terrible gas tank as well. Sherman's TDD is actually not that bad and he has way better gas tank than Brezki. Also throws like 3x more volume than Williams. Williams also short notice. From stylistical standpoint it's understandable why Williams is the favorite but this line is clearly too wide. Value on Sherman.
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I agree. Williams -250 seems about right. Easy pass.
 
Danis_champ said:
Strongly disagreeing with this one. Williams looked so gassy in his last fight and Brzeski is just so bad and has terrible gas tank as well. Sherman's TDD is actually not that bad and he has way better gas tank than Brezki. Also throws like 3x more volume than Williams. Williams also short notice. From stylistical standpoint it's understandable why Williams is the favorite but this line is clearly too wide. Value on Sherman.
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There is only value on Sherman if you believe he wins this fight at least one out of every five times which I certainly do not.

You also said a few posts back that Williams looked like shit in his UFC debut despite the fact he dominantly won every single round which included a 10-8 round on 2 scorecards. Maybe look into Williams a bit more before referring to him as a bum/low-level and saying there is value on his opponent who there is absolutely no value on?
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
There is only value on Sherman if you believe he wins this fight at least one out of every five times which I certainly do not.

You also said a few posts back that Williams looked like shit in his UFC debut despite the fact he dominantly won every single round which included a 10-8 round on 2 scorecards. Maybe look into Williams a bit more before referring to him as a bum/low-level and saying there is value on his opponent who there is absolutely no value on?
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Yeah he won but against who? He looked slow, stiff and stuck in the mud. He was lucky to face someone with zero takedown defense and zero cardio. Yeah he laid on him and landed some Gnp but I was still not impressed with him. If you want to put your life saving on him at -500 then go ahead.

Why you feel so offended the way I'm thinking about Williams?

I'm not saying Sherman should definitely be the play here but laying -500 on someone like Williams is just ridiculous. Also lol at Sherman not winning one fight out of five. Karl Williams is not Curtis Blaydes. Another wrestling hype train like Romanov who is gonna get derailed soon. I bet Volkov big. This is HW at the end of the day.

Sherman has only been taken down more than once in a UFC fight by Romanov who we know is a decent wrestler himself when he is in shape.
 
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Danis_champ said:
Yeah he won but against who? He looked slow, stiff and stuck in the mud. He was lucky to face someone with zero takedown defense and zero cardio. Yeah he laid on him and landed some Gnp but I was still not impressed with him. If you want to put your life saving on him at -500 then go ahead.

Why you feel so offended the way I'm thinking about Williams?

I'm not saying Sherman should definitely be the play here but laying -500 on someone like Williams is just ridiculous. Also lol at Sherman not winning one fight out of five. Karl Williams is not Curtis Blaydes. Another wrestling hype train like Romanov who is gonna get derailed soon. I bet Volkov big. This is HW at the end of the day.

Sherman has only been taken down more than once in a UFC fight by Romanov who we know is a decent wrestler himself when he is in shape.
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We all have an obligation to keep the content we post in this thread as factual as possible since it is a betting forum after all and people reading this will potentially be making financial decisions based on what is posted.

Danis_champ said:
perhaps but he looked shit vs Brzeski but I think he is better than that performance. Brzeski even more low level than Sherman.
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Saying Williams who won (30-26, 30-26, 30-27) looked like shit in his debut doesn't seem like an informed opinion and is extremely misleading at best. Everyones opinion should be respected as long as that opinion is grounded in facts or sound logic.

I am not offended and hope you are not either. Everyone is hyperbolic occasionally lets just all make an effort to keep it as factual as we can going forward thats all I am saying.
 
UFCIsNOTRigged said:
We all have an obligation to keep the content we post in this thread as factual as possible since it is a betting forum after all and people reading this will potentially be making financial decisions based on what is posted.



Saying Williams who won (30-26, 30-26, 30-27) looked like shit in his debut doesn't seem like an informed opinion and is extremely misleading at best. Everyones opinion should be respected as long as that opinion is grounded in facts or sound logic.

I am not offended and hope you are not either. Everyone is hyperbolic occasionally lets just all make an effort to keep it as factual as we can going forward thats all I am saying.
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maybe it's new info for you but you can still look shit while winning
 
Kelvin 0-2 against southpaws in recent years.. going to bet Curtis on that alone.
 
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