have u seen a prime 32 year old fedor in a drug testing org?
he hates drug testing bro
i dont believe he can dominate the version of the fighters that stipe fought
his best wins where cro cop and nog
lmao at comparing jones and fedor
fighters like gustafson dc and many more would dominate him
stop it
Coleman takedown polished him off pretty good.Imagine how fucken crazy that fight would've been. lol
Coleman takedown polished him off pretty good.
You understand fedor is a heavyweight.. and yes he woulda smoked the ufcs heavy division I think that's proven even when he wasnt in his prime we seen the cross promo fight with ufc champion tim sylvia..Obviously this is all hypothetical scenario.
Say if prime Fedor fought the guys Jon Jones fought in his win streak. Do you think Fedor would have gone through the gauntlet of fighters victorious just like Jones?
I guess you need some luck on your side to get in long run like that. But if someone could do the same results against the same competition. I would think prime Fedor would have the best chance of going through that line of murderers row.
Also if Fedor fought these guys it would be open weight or everyone fight at HW. There is no need to cut weight when every LHW balloons up to 225-230 lbs after. Fedor at his prime weight was about 233 lbs max. So there's really no size advantage for Fedor against these massive LHW.
Brandon Vera
Vladimir Matyushenko
Ryan Bader
Shogun
Rampage
Lyoto Machida
Rashad Evans
Vitor Belfort
Chael Sonnen
Alexander Gustafsson 2x
Glover Teixeira
Daniel Cormier 2x
Ovince Saint Preux
Anthony Smith
Thiago Santos
Dominick Reyes
Ciryl Gane
Looking at the competition Jon Jones fought, I think the guy Fedor would have a hard time against is Daniel Cormier. That fight can go either way. Ciryl Gane will also be a tough match-up imo. Also Bader can be bad matchup for even a prime Fedor.
I think Fedor could possibly go through them all and come out the other side.
Thoughts?
Training has evolved in the sense that new fighters have a better sense of what training is necessary. As far as technique evolving, I think that is a pipedream that doesn't match reality.One reason is MMA has evolved and training methods have evolved. Technique has evolved.
Everybody who talks about Fedor fighting "bigger guys" never wants to acknowledge that he had a speed advantage over them to offset it. Even before getting into the fact that he was extremely strong himself, and obviously a master of leverage with his sambo and judo background. All things perfectly suited to overcoming someone simply being bigger than him.Fedor used his speed well when HWs thought they could get by on power alone. He probably would win lots of fights, but I think even in Pride his tougher matchups were in the lower weights.
This is a good pointidk, the version of Bader that Jon beat got finished by a washed Tito in the middle of his long losing streak.
You understand fedor is a heavyweight.. and yes he woulda smoked the ufcs heavy division I think that's proven even when he wasnt in his prime we seen the cross promo fight with ufc champion tim sylvia..
As far as lhw idk I think so but would he of had a loss maybe the guy faught to kill jon faught to win .. and lhw are faster and have power I think it's an impossible comparison would it's like saying would a prime conor have beaten all of gsps openants.. and had a better run... pretty stuipid
am not hating 95 percent of his wins look like these2017 join date with a dumb take, nothing to see here
am not hating 95 percent of his wins look like these
you also hate the fact that he doesnt like drug testing orgs?
you can clearly see the pattern on his resume
lmao why do we even argue about this
anyone can look like a god fighting these fighters
im not really surprised by fedor huggers
you people live in the past and cant think clearly
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Re-read my comment.....I didnt say Fedor couldn't beat them.....actually I was saying the opposite. I was saying, and I thought it was clear, that if Fedor was 25 years old now, he would be a different fighter than he was in his prime. He wouldn't brawl as much, he'd use the newest training methods that were not used back then. I wasnt talking about Fedor being transported in time and fighting his style against new people, I was saying if he were born 25 years ago and thus, be 25 years old now, he'd incorporate modern MMA ideas and be just as great as he was when he ruled.Training has evolved in the sense that new fighters have a better sense of what training is necessary. As far as technique evolving, I think that is a pipedream that doesn't match reality.
The lower-level fighters of today are more technically sound for a number of reasons, training being one of them. But the idea that fighters of today have better technique than Fedor, Anderson, GSP, Penn, and the other elites of the late 90s and early 2000s is not true. Arlovski is a 90s fighter that is still giving fighters trouble today. Anderson started in the late 90s.
A lot of Jones' opponents are from the old school BTW, so saying Fedor couldn't beat them because they are from a new generation is obviously false.
Jones is good at utilizing his long reach, but Fedor has faster and much harder punches.