Does Prime Rockhold beat Strickland?

Strickland fundamentals and Cocksalt lacks of defense, takedowns and chin might spell disaster for him.

Strickland would also destroy Weidman.
 
What does the so-called prime Rockhold mean ?

Oh wait, without USADA <seedat>

Strickland is a better fighter, now move on with your fake super soldiers.
 
NoBiasJustMMA said:
All three of those guys were in their primes in Strikeforce and all three would beat Sean at their best.
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Luke probably gets fucked up. Even in his prime, he had poor defense against left hands.

Tim gets wrecked. His defense left a lot to be desired entering the pocket and I'm not confident he could keep Sean down to smother him. He struggled with keeping Bisping down as well. He pretty much sat in mount and held on to avoid any escapes.

Jacare at that point destroys most guys. A few split decisions going the wrong way ended up making him look worse on paper, but he was a scary cat back then.
 
pankrat said:
He might be, it's the only legit wrestler Strickland has faced at MW.
Not sure if thats enough sample to draw conclussions. Hermansson btw landed more than a hundred strikes on Sean in that fight, and I think he is a lesser striker than Rockhold.

I think Luke could take a passive approach standing trying to use his kicks which would probably be blocked but just waiting for Sean to get inside and try to trip him or reverse him against the cage.

Im not writing Sean off by any means, but I dont take for granted he would just stop Luke in the clinch/ground neither, he has not faced enough grappling threats to be so sure about it imo
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Sean improved. Only 16% of the strikes Jack landed were to the head and he went 0 on 8 in takedowns.
 
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Offensively Rockhold is one of the best MMA fighters you’ll ever see in terms of skill set. Defensively however is a different story.

People give him shit for being chinny but it’s his defence that lost him those fights. Every one of his Ko losses would put down any other middleweight if they were hit by them. In fact he was still conscious after most so it wasn’t his chin. It was his defence and poor reactions to being hit.

So 2015 Rockhold had all the tools to beat really any middleweight in UFC history, but also lacked the defensive discipline to make it a certainty
 
Skarsgard said:
Luke probably gets fucked up. Even in his prime, he had poor defense against left hands.

Tim gets wrecked. His defense left a lot to be desired entering the pocket and I'm not confident he could keep Sean down to smother him. He struggled with keeping Bisping down as well. He pretty much sat in mount and held on to avoid any escapes.

Jacare at that point destroys most guys. A few split decisions going the wrong way ended up making him look worse on paper, but he was a scary cat back then.
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Sean hasn't fought any good wrestlers other than Usman. Kennedy and Jacare take him down in their primes and out grapple him. Luke in his prime would do well keeping the range with kicks and at some point would get on top in a scramble and hurt him bad with strikes or submit him.

Kennedy beat Bisping when he was passed his prime and I think Bisping's TDD and defensive grappling was far more proven than Sean's and the version of Kennedy we are talking about is younger and better.
 
KOPPE said:
If Usmans tda and cardio abuse made him go turtle mode Imagine what a prime Rockhold could do.
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Prime Rockhold never had great cardio & his takedowns were never a strong point, most of his ground work came after his opponents tried taking him down.
 
Didn't read through the replies after the first page. Prime Rockhold got KO by crippled Bisping pretty quickly. Nah, Strickland takes care of Rockhold. Easier said with hindsight. But still.
 
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Sean would lost to 90% of the fighters here. At most he beats 2 of them. And Luke aint one of em.

MW was at its peak then. Its one of the big 3 shite divisions now with LHW and HW.
 
chinarice said:
Luke's shit-tier boxing defense gets him finished. Sean has very good hands. Terrible matchup for Luke.

Strickland by TKO. Easy win.
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MAYBE. Rockhold is way better on the ground with serviceable take downs. And yeah Luke's like one of those olympic TKD fighters. That will end badly if he doesn't set up a takedown.
 
Fjord said:
Didn't read through the replies after the first page. Prime Rockhold got KO by crippled Bisping pretty quickly. Nah, Strickland takes care of Rockhold. Easier said with hindsight. But still.
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Hey to be fair a lot of people would be finished by Bisping. He has excellent fundamentals and fluid combos. His weakness was very basic BJJ, bad wrestling that greatly improved later, doesn't have natural power so must time shots.
 
Mammothman said:
Strickland fundamentals and Cocksalt lacks of defense, takedowns and chin might spell disaster for him.

Strickland would also destroy Weidman.
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The fundamentals make all the difference. I agree!
 
sss133 said:
People give him shit for being chinny but it’s his defence that lost him those fights. Every one of his Ko losses would put down any other middleweight if they were hit by them. In fact he was still conscious after most so it wasn’t his chin. It was his defence and poor reactions to being hit.
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This is not true, Bisping never knocked anyone else out like that.
 
Harlekin said:
- Usman has 3 times the cardio Rockhold had.
- Usman had good takedowns, Rockhold doesn't.
1 Machida slipped
2 Weidman failed with his roundhouse kick.
3 Bisping got headbutted and headkicked.
- Wasn't prime Strickland
- Rockhold gassed in the 2nd against Weidman

Strickland wins via cardio and finds that chin on a tired Rockhold. 8/10
Rockhold gets it on the ground via something random 2/10
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He knows

Prime Rockhold is very overrated. Great ground game, non existant tds. Great kicks, mediocre boxing
 
Hahaha NO. That's a nightmare style matchup for him. A much better boxer, while Rockhold always loved to box early and had awful defense, timing, footwork, etc.
 
tasticles said:
Hey to be fair a lot of people would be finished by Bisping. He has excellent fundamentals and fluid combos. His weakness was very basic BJJ, bad wrestling that greatly improved later, doesn't have natural power so must time shots.
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Yes. But we’re talking about one eyed Bisping.
Man, to fight with one severely damaged eye and to become an UFC Champion. That’s pretty amazing. Mad creds to Bisping.

Rockhold just didn’t want it bad enough at that time. Strickland would have.
 
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