which arbitration agreements are you talking about? i think there are 4 under usada in addition to jones, with 1 not referencing m3 at all (he flagged for many substances, not just dhcmt), 1 for 12 pg/ml of m3, and for chi-lewis parry the arbitration references "metabolites of dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (“DHCMT”) or another chlorine substituted anabolic steroid" but doesn't reference m3 or any specific ones.
there are not alot of data points. note the first dhcmt related sanction specifically referenced on the usada sanction page is mir in 2016.
again, you have almost zero details backing those tests. again, even the arbitrations don't fully reference what metabolites were detected. at least 2 cases where m3 was referenced were athletes who admitted using before entering usada testing (so not recent and unlikely to include short term metabolites).
here's an arbitration related to the RUSADA doping scheme. page 7 references the findings from retested samples and references the presence of 5 different metabolites (see table on bottom of page).
https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/....O.6762-World-Athletics-v.-RUSAf-Soboleva.pdf
verifying that if you are doping you will have multiple markers, which we know anyway.
did they continue testing those athletes who were sanctioned for years in 2013?
you didn't answer my question. i reference an arbitration that does reference more metabolites. what arbitrations from that era are you aware of? most of the earlier arbitration reports i've seen from CAS don't even reference specific metabolites.
but here's the question again.
Let me ask you - based on what you know about tbol doping schemes, and usada random testing, and the detection window, what is your hypothesis about what tbol doping schemes athletes are using to try to avoid detection? Do you have one? Do you think there are educated athletes who look at tbol and think that’s a good steroid to improve performance and avoid detection under usada?
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